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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5445 –
A mate from the States reckons folk are claiming that the vaccine has made them magnetic and are demonstrating this by showing coins and cutlery sticking to various parts of their anatomy.  Of course, all US coins (except for WW2 era steel cents) are made to be nonmagnetic as is good quality stainless steel cutlery  ::)
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5446 –
Quote from: DJC on
A mate from the States reckons folk are claiming that the vaccine has made them magnetic and are demonstrating this by showing coins and cutlery sticking to various parts of their anatomy.  Of course, all US coins (except for WW2 era steel cents) are made to be nonmagnetic as is good quality stainless steel cutlery  ::)
I once saw a sci-fi b-grade movie from maybe the 50's that had people being locked in place by magnets. It made me question if people were ever that dumb.

The above seems to prove it.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5447 –
I experimented with a rare earth magnet DJC. It wasn't attracted whatsoever to Aussie coins but it stuck to all our cutlery and most of the kitchen implements. Maybe that says more about our cutlery than anything else! But the whole vaccine magnetism thing is comedy gold. There was a conspiracy theorist a while ago who gave evidence before a Red State parliamentary enquiry (I can't recall which State) and she couldn't get her spoon to stick to her forehead no matter what she did but she kept up her prattle about magnetism to the very end   :))

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5449 –
Quote from: Mav on
not sure if it was the one I saw but this youtube clip is pretty close:

Mad as cut snakes!

I liked the anchorman's "train to crazy town" line; so apt.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5450 –
The Commonwealth Government is trying to bring in 2,000 health workers to shore up the health system.  I hope they will all be double-vaxxed  :)

Letting the health system run down was always going to come back and bite us on the butt.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5451 –
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The Commonwealth Government is trying to bring in 2,000 health workers to shore up the health system.  I hope they will all be double-vaxxed  :)

Letting the health system run down was always going to come back and bite us on the butt.
Let's hope they are trained to the appropriate standard we expect in Australia..

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5452 –
I can stick plastic spoons to my forehead, like I'm one of the X-Men, and I can bend them!

Given it's plastic, does that make me Polymath?

If those protesters are wearing any polyester they are forked! ;)
The Force Awakens!
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5453 –
More smoke and mirrors from the Federal Govt.  Yesterday Greg Hunt announced that as from next week Australians who are severely immunocompromised will be offered the option to receive a third Covid dose.

My brother, who is in that category, rang his surgery today to book an appointment for next week.
Unfortunately, the surgery has received no information concerning a booster shot and he was told to ring back Monday week when more information could be available - but who knows!

 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5454 –
Your brother might benefit from the new AstraZeneca treatment, Macca. The problem with vaccines is that they rely upon teaching the body to produce the antibodies that will then fight off any infection in the months following vaccination. But some people, especially the immunocompromised, aren't great at producing those antibodies in the quantity needed. The new AstraZeneca drug is an injectable which pumps long-lasting artificial antibodies into muscles and they presumably augment the body's naturally-generated antibodies.

That drug is yet to be approved for use and who knows what side-effects and contra-indications it will have. I'd also imagine it is compatible with booster shots anyway, so there's probably no need to choose between them or put anything on hold.

As always, this is just brainstorming. I'm not a doctor, so rely on the medical advice rather than my musings.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5455 –
Quote from: Macca37 on
More smoke and mirrors from the Federal Govt.  Yesterday Greg Hunt announced that as from next week Australians who are severely immunocompromised will be offered the option to receive a third Covid dose.

My brother, who is in that category, rang his surgery today to book an appointment for next week.
Unfortunately, the surgery has received no information concerning a booster shot and he was told to ring back Monday week when more information could be available - but who knows!

Governments seem to announce "initiatives" without previously informing those who will be expected to provide the service or product.

Hitting the news cycle at the right time is more important than planned implementation  ::)
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5456 –
Quote from: Mav on
Your brother might benefit from the new AstraZeneca treatment, Macca. The problem with vaccines is that they rely upon teaching the body to produce the antibodies that will then fight off any infection in the months following vaccination. But some people, especially the immunocompromised, aren't great at producing those antibodies in the quantity needed. The new AstraZeneca drug is an injectable which pumps long-lasting artificial antibodies into muscles and they presumably augment the body's naturally-generated antibodies.

That drug is yet to be approved for use and who knows what side-effects and contra-indications it will have. I'd also imagine it is compatible with booster shots anyway, so there's probably no need to choose between them or put anything on hold.

As always, this is just brainstorming. I'm not a doctor, so rely on the medical advice rather than my musings.

Thanks, Mav.  I'll mention it to him.  He is in remission after treatment for an aggressive type of leukaemia  and his immune system is just about shot.  It's one of the reasons I am angry with anti-vaxxers and people who put their so-called personal freedoms above the rights of the general community.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5457 –
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Governments seem to announce "initiatives" without previously informing those who will be expected to provide the service or product.



Hitting the news cycle at the right time is more important than planned implementation  ::)

 What you have said is correct.  The failure of the initiatives to arrive at the time announced causes unnecessary worry and anxiety for people who are already battling serious illnesses.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5458 –
Macca, I totally agree with you that it's hard to accept that the holdouts have little concern for the common good. Here's an interesting article by a psychologist who was involved with analysing what might persuade them to vaccinate.

COVID vaccine hesitancy: spell out the personal rather than collective benefits to persuade people — new research, The Conversation.

So much for social cohesion. They're about as community-minded as Montgomery Burns  ::)

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5459 –

Quote from: Mav on
Macca, I totally agree with you that it's hard to accept that the holdouts have little concern for the common good. Here's an interesting article by a psychologist who was involved with analysing what might persuade them to vaccinate.

COVID vaccine hesitancy: spell out the personal rather than collective benefits to persuade people — new research, The Conversation.

So much for social cohesion. They're about as community-minded as Montgomery Burns  ::)


That's an interesting article, but the percentage of anti-social people within the community is depressing.

After so many months of lockdown, the ever looming threat of Covid,  and the failure of collective benefits arguments failing to sway the views of a hardcore group, I've lost interest in attempting to change their minds.

 I hope the Victorian government has the resolve to carry through with its plan to place restrictions on the unvaccinated when we open up.  The loss of privileges may be one way of forcing the anti-social to become a little more sociable.