Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
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You must watch different TV Thry. Dr Norman Swan is a regular on the ABC (TV and radio) and responds to questions from the punters. Many other doctors, epidemiologists, immunologists, scientists, the team that does the modelling for the CHO, the Doherty Institute, the Garvan Institute, etc, etc are also regulars.
All I am trying to say, is compare this to the coverage Megan Markle received when her and Harry shed their royal titles for a moment or the latest series of the bachelor. I say a proper community engagment Q&A not reporters asking stage managed questions. If Joe Bloggs from Croydon could send in a question, it would go much further than a reporter asking someone a staged managed question, but I also recognise that these things could be twisted by the wrong people, and that the answers are not clear cut too in some cases which could also cause a bit of a stir (in fact, this might be more of an issue than not).
The ABC isn't quite the place for a lot of the people who would rather watch netflix and pay tv, and I recognise the challenge, but I think there is a disconnect between government and capturing the publics attention, and I point back to the echo chamber that is the internet (and is definately the tool of choice for the people most likely to resist vaccination).
I've found out more information from the show question everything which is rather satirical, and this forum than I have from the idiot box. There is a reason it has that term, but frankly, thats where this should be run and won.
I know plenty of people who turned off the press conferences, when it became very apparent that they weren't being transparent with what they knew (*but I understand that its difficult to be that transparent when you are quoted as stating you will provide 4000 beds). I had never heard of Norman Swan until your post as one more example of what I am talking about.
The thing is that the conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers and neo-nazis are deaf to science and logic.
This is not what these people are.
Anti-Vaxxers. They are not instituting the final solution. Most of them actually live their lives a bit like hippies. They eat clean, they grow their own produce, they shop at farmers markets, they buy natural remedies, they try and stay organic, they have gluten/fodmap diets and intolerances or generally just a bit of different (note, different, not better or worse) view of what is healthy for people. They are very conscious of what goes into their bodies and dont necessarily believe that modern medicine is out to help people because unfortunately, we live a very consumer based lifestyle, and lots of our modern medicines are synthetic versions of naturally occurring things that are being monetised in the health system (according to them, I recognise, that this is not 100% correct, but there are circumstances where it is). These are the people I know of. They live in green wedge, and try and get outdoors, walk around in nature barefoot to ground themselves and believe that community is important, and they have been isolated from their support networks. They do tend to get hoodwinked by the Qanon conspiracies, and believe in a bunch of crap to go with it, but they do no harm to others and tend to look at most of the Trumpish stuff from the sidelines (genuinely the people I know, are your stand up, walk hard, corporate white collar types) but have genuinely been left with a feeling of not knowing what to believe anymore.
Neo-nazis. Who are these people? Where do you find them, and what subset of society do they actually occupy? The answer, is that this is a throw away term to label people who just dont see the world the way people do. Conspiracy theorists... Its the year 2021, and we label a hair dryer with warning labels, not to use in the shower. Some of them are just idiotic, but the reality is, that the internet is a powerful propaganda tool, and instagram is perpetuating false body images to people who should and do know better, but cannot see past the filters because of a trigger it gives them. Flat earthers are a thing again, because some very convincing arguments make their way onto the internet, until you remember about the story of Eratosthenes, and how he was able to guess the circumference of the earth within a very small variance of error, just by measuring the suns shadow.
I prefer to put these people in a different camp. They are just like those suffering with poor mental health. They usually latch onto these things, to explain away part of life that they cannot rationalise in their own minds.
How do we deal with people suffering with their mental health? We dont judge them, we support them, we listen to them, and once they feel heard, usually they start to heal and will come along.
Mav stated something earlier about the mandates abroad. These sections of society exist everywhere, and there are varying degrees with how this will be policed. In Greece, the majority of the country has been non smoking for the last 20 years but it was common to see people smoking right next to a no smoking sign with no ramification. The cultures are different, and there are better ways to bring these people to the party. Hell, letting them have the experience of finding out a loved one got sick with COVID, will make it real enough for them to buy in, and these guys are not going to flood the system.
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