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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6091
The biggest concern with the Omicron strain is the press hyperbole that follows it - the media scrum is creating their own spin which almost inevitably will be far worse than the reality.   That is more dangerous than the virus itself, as it will lead to an ill-informed public that demands that the politicians do something, and we don't need knee-jerk reactions right now.

Agree on stopping flights from Africa, but let's not all crawl back into our bunkers....
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6092
Hope you see the humour in this, Thry.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6093
China isn't a WHO benefactor.  They make a substantial assessed contribution based on their GDP, as do all members, but they don't make a voluntary contribution.  WHO's major benefactors are the UK, Sweden, Norway and Australia so, if anyone's pulling strings, it's Boris (the UK's assessed and voluntary contributions exceed China's assessed contribution).  China doesn't give money away.

According to WHO: “‘Nu’ is too easily confounded with ‘new’, and ‘Xi’ was not used because it is a common last name ... best practices for naming disease suggest avoiding causing offence to any cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups”.

In fact, Xi is the 708th most common surname, so I guess there's some merit to WHO's reasoning, but I wonder if they consulted with Ms Goodrem before naming the Delta strain  ;)
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6094
If it was called "Trump" they wouldn't have thought twice about it.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6095
China isn't a WHO benefactor.  They make a substantial assessed contribution based on their GDP, as do all members, but they don't make a voluntary contribution.  WHO's major benefactors are the UK, Sweden, Norway and Australia so, if anyone's pulling strings, it's Boris (the UK's assessed and voluntary contributions exceed China's assessed contribution).  China doesn't give money away.

According to WHO: “‘Nu’ is too easily confounded with ‘new’, and ‘Xi’ was not used because it is a common last name ... best practices for naming disease suggest avoiding causing offence to any cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups”.

In fact, Xi is the 708th most common surname, so I guess there's some merit to WHO's reasoning, but I wonder if they consulted with Ms Goodrem before naming the Delta strain  ;)
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/china-who-multimillion-dollar-contribution-political-power-move-2020-4
The above is my point.....they suddenly got over generous when questions got asked and when the USA under Trump pulled money.
They manipulate when it suits their political agenda...

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6096
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/china-who-multimillion-dollar-contribution-political-power-move-2020-4
The above is my point.....they suddenly got over generous when questions got asked and when the USA under Trump pulled money.
They manipulate when it suits their political agenda...


Even with that contribution (not yet listed on the WHO website), China is still well behind the UK and, presumably, the USA again, now that Aurangzeb has gone.   You're right, they don't give money away for nothing and they were quick to exploit the vacuum created by Aurangzeb, but their influence over the WHO isn't as great as they would like, and considerably less than the West.  
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6097
My son in law is a partner in a graphic/industrial design company.  They have been working from home until recently but all partners and staff returned to the office two weeks ago.

One of the team was an anti-vaxxer, as was his wife.  The wife's father is now very sick with COVID so they changed their minds and had their first shot.  I believe that the former anti-vaxxer remarked, "COVID is real!".  Unfortunately, the bloke became ill and tested positive for COVID.  He was infectious while at work so the entire company had to isolate and test.  My son in law and his other colleagues are all fully vaccinated and all tested negative on day 6 of isolation.  Their building was being deep-cleaned today and they're all working from home again.  The former anti-vaxxer is not seriously ill but he's not all that popular at the moment.  ::)
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6099
My son in law is a partner in a graphic/industrial design company.  They have been working from home until recently but all partners and staff returned to the office two weeks ago.

One of the team was an anti-vaxxer, as was his wife.  The wife's father is now very sick with COVID so they changed their minds and had their first shot.  I believe that the former anti-vaxxer remarked, "COVID is real!".  Unfortunately, the bloke became ill and tested positive for COVID.  He was infectious while at work so the entire company had to isolate and test.  My son in law and his other colleagues are all fully vaccinated and all tested negative on day 6 of isolation.  Their building was being deep-cleaned today and they're all working from home again.  The former anti-vaxxer is not seriously ill but he's not all that popular at the moment.  ::)

They obviously don't know how it works.
J Brown and his radio co host both got it and spread despite being full vaxxed.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6100
No just didn't need to ostracise everyone and force people who were hesitant into getting vaccinated of fear of being a social outcast.

Look at Liam Jones as an example.  Not even a pre season complete and its going to be irrelevant whether he got vaccinated or not but he's had to retire, leave us with a gaping hole in defense and he's missing out on 400k etdtimated at minimum.

No one has been victorious in that scenario.

Keep in mind im double vaxxed and im going for my booster Jan 6th.

Why?  I work in a hospital and my risk profile is different to average Joe.


The measures, fine.  The vaccines fine.  The vaccine mandate and draconian response?  Not fine.  No where near fine. A massive issue, and one that has guaranteed that if there is another vaccine required a bigger portion are going to skip it irrespective of vaccine mandates. 

The noise in the city is growing larger not smaller.

You guys are too arrogant thinking you know better.

A couple points on this.

1. Jones didn't HAVE to retire. He had a choice, he chose not to get vaccinated, which meant he couldn't play. He could've stayed on the list at minimum wage. He chose not to bother and retired.

2. re 'Draconian response'...
Of all the 'anti-vaxxers' and 'my body my choice-ers' what is one of their main gripes with the lockdown mandates? The damage it is doing to the people, mentally.....which is mainly due to the economic impacts of the lockdowns.
With that in mind, the AFL is a billion dollar industry which employs thousands of people. There is a risk that the whole AFL could be brought to its knees, putting 1000's out of work, costing millions etc etc.
The AFLW had its season cancelled (in finals no less!). The same thing can happen to the AFL.

To quote Star Trek...."The Needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few......or the one."

 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6101
How did Omricon get in to the country when the unvaxxed can't come in?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6102
They obviously don't know how it works.
J Brown and his radio co host both got it and spread despite being full vaxxed.

Who doesn’t know how what works?

My son in law’s company followed the procedures to the letter and, despite a couple of days’ exposure to their infected colleague, escaped infection.  One of the partners is severely immuno-compromised.

The only mistake they made was allowing the former anti-vaxxer to attend the workplace until he was fully vaccinated.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6104
How did Omricon get in to the country when the unvaxxed can't come in?
As you know, no vaccine is perfect, even if everybody gets vaccinated, people can still get infected. You have to think of the efficacy as a number that represents chance.

Surrounding yourself with infected people, not social distancing, not wearing a mask, is basically exposing yourself to more and more virus. Like playing the pokies, given enough spins you eventually get a jackpot but still lose overall, the math works against you! Some get the jackpot on the first spin, others can play years and not get a single one, but if they keep playing no matter what luck they've had in the past the math says they eventually lose!

btw., That is how the pokey money laundering works, they pump megabucks through the machines knowing full well they only get 85% of every dollar they feed in returned, that's the math at work. The minimum 15% they lose is the price they happily pay for the cleaners!

Just because you may be double vaccinated, do not gullibly think you are impervious to the virus, chance your hand enough and you will lose!

If a vaccine has 85% efficacy, it doesn't mean it protects 85 of every 100 people, that's the simplistic explanation we give the kiddies. What it really means is that every time you are exposed to an infectious dose you have 85% chance of being protected, or 15% chance of getting infected, every time you are chancing your luck!
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