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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6630 –
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A nice bit of political theater. The government gets a temporary respite by keeping their never ending covid stuff ups off the front pages, and they get to show how they are "tough on border security", just in time for an election.

Maybe ScoMo has an autographed copy of Howard's LNP playbook. Look under T for Tampa. 

Yep. Expecting anything other than populist decisions from SloMo is pure fantasy - such a glib, shallow, one-dimensional character.

The govt ads running at present declaring that the govt has secured millions of RATs... which will be available in the coming weeks!!!! ...is an embarrassing boast. Oh dear.
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Reply #6631 –
I bet tennis Australia wasn't expecting the 3 year ban on Djoker returning!
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Reply #6632 –
If Covid isn't an issue next year or if Djokovic gets jabbed, that won't be an issue. It's easily waived.

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Reply #6633 –
In some respects Novak being sent off has probably prevented a bit of a circus.
It's a bit like the old Hans Christian Andersen tale...'The Emperor's New Clothes.'

You'd have all the double vaccinated folks sitting in the stands while the King is in the 'altogether' out on centre court.
The reception may not have been the best.

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Reply #6634 –
Quote from: Lods on
In some respects Novak being sent off has probably prevented a bit of a circus.
It's a bit like the old Hans Christian Andersen tale...'The Emperor's New Clothes.'

You'd have all the double vaccinated folks sitting in the stands while the King is in the 'altogether' out on centre court.
The reception may not have been the best.
Agree, there may well be concerns in both directions relating to this, it is definitely not the simple either / or scenario the media debate.
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Reply #6635 –
My three grandsons all have COVID.  The eldest has had two vaccinations and the younger two were booked in for their first vaccinations this week  ::)  They each have slightly different symptoms but basically similar to common cold symptoms.

My daughter and son in law, both triple vaxxed, haven't tested positive ... yet. 

They were supposed to come to our place for a family gathering yesterday but pulled out when the boys developed symptoms.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #6636 –
Quote from: DJC on
They were supposed to come to our place for a family gathering yesterday but pulled out when the boys developed symptoms.
Wishing them well DJC.

I heard a Euro podcast overnight discussing Omicron trends, and it fits your description perfectly. Omicron can re-infect double vaxed after about 3 months, it can also openly re-infect people who had Delta. It looks like the 3rd booster of either AZ or Pfizer gives strong resistance to Omicron infection for up to 8 weeks starting about 2 weeks after the 3rd jab, and good long term efficacy against severe disease.

Even though Omicron can re-infect, all the vaccines as well as any prior natural Alpha or Delta infection should offer good efficacy for the reduction of severe symptoms. It also appears some other types of recent Corona Virus infection (Common cold variants) are offering some efficacy in the reduction of severe symptoms.
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Reply #6637 –
I assume Tiley will be in some corner crying .... if you wanna bash anyone, start with him.

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Reply #6638 –
Interesting to hear a bunch of super fit tennis professionals discussing the impact of COVID on their performance, sort of makes a mockery of those who want to paint Sars-CoV-2 as a sniffle!

These people are not Joe Average, they are uber-fit with beyond average cardio /  aerobic capacity, and Sars-CoV-2 has knocked them around!

And no, they weren't all make excuses post a loss, some of them are winners!

Youth courtesy of Facebook, Instatwit, Tik Croc and other social media platforms are not taking COVID seriously enough in my opinion.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6639 –
Quote from: capcom on
I assume Tiley will be in some corner crying .... if you wanna bash anyone, start with him.
I heard a rumour today going around some media circles there were credible threats made against Djoker, and also credible threats made against the general public on Djoker's behalf, so there might be far more to his re-export than just the vaccine stance. So much so security has now had to be beefed up at the tennis!

In trying to game the system, the various parties might have gone close to unleashing hell, it just takes one spark!
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Reply #6640 –
Looks like Novax might have not be allowed to play the French Open either:
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France’s vaccine pass law, approved by parliament on Sunday, will require people to have a certificate of vaccination to enter public places such as restaurants, cafes, cinemas and long-distance trains.

“The rule is simple. The vaccine pass will be imposed, as soon as the law is promulgated, in establishments that were already subject to the health pass,” the ministry said.

“This will apply to everyone who is a spectator or a professional sportsperson. And this until further notice.

“Now, as far as Roland Garros is concerned, it’s in May. The situation may change between now and then and we hope that it will be more favourable. So we’ll see, but clearly there’s no exemption.“
Unless Covid recedes, he'll have to wait for Wimbledon.

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Reply #6641 –
My associate in NSW says the shizen is starting to hit the fan up there in the health system, they think they opened up too rapidly, and now things are going backwards.

Parrotsay was sprouting the low deaths as a justification for opening up, and he is apparently back peddling faster than reverse footage of Charlie Chaplin cycling!

The problem is not linear, most of us here knew that, everyone who doesn't have their head in the sand knows it, the lag between opening up, getting lots of new cases in a short period of time, and the chain of deaths looks like it's going to bite them on the ar5e! They haven't respected the math!

I do worry about the removal of border restrictions, apparently exporting relatives to locations that have beds has become "a thing", but the health system is altruistic and won't refuse treatment to the hospital shoppers!

PS: Code Brown for Vic, does that mean it's crap yourself time?
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Reply #6642 –
It's only a few percent, you hear and read that often.

It's only a few percent more contagious, it's a few percent less deadly, the vaccines have a few percent less efficacy.

Such is the tale of Omicron, the latest UK data suggests Omicron transmission is up about 10% relative to Delta, up from 21% to 31%. Just 10%, it's not much at all, and yet!

It's amazing what impact a few percent can have, and this is happening under reduced, partial and self-imposed lockdowns, yet there are still pundits asking for things to be thrown wide open, if they do it won't be a few percent, the health system pain will be 2x or 3x the current problem!

What does 2x or 3x look like if what we currently experience is the result of just a 10% change?

Humans are awful at evaluating risk, personal opinion is worthless, while the math is effectively a god despite the derision of the science on social media. A 10% increase in the risk of transmission, a removal of some or all restrictions because we perceive Omicron as less deadly, and we are in our current situation with far more people hurting than ever happened under lockdowns! But the Feds think they will save a dollar, hoorah! ;) Well, that saving seems to be evaporating by the second, too many dodgy economic hypotheses from economic B-Graders again, we suffer this over and over again, while the politicians pork barrel billion$ people can't get a cheap lateral flow test and health workers can't get PPE or masks, all could be solved for the price of a carpark it seems, ............. and yet! :o

The good news is, well perhaps bad news if you are an anti-vaxer, it looks like for any vaccine the 3rd booster is delivering massive efficacy, not only against severe symptoms but also increased prevention, much of the data suggesting between 85% and 98% efficacy for the 3rd shot for any brand of vaccine!
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Reply #6643 –
The fallout from this mess will be incalculable.  That state by state bitching just as bad

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Reply #6644 –
Quote from: DJC on
My three grandsons all have COVID.  The eldest has had two vaccinations and the younger two were booked in for their first vaccinations this week  ::)  They each have slightly different symptoms but basically similar to common cold symptoms.

My daughter and son in law, both triple vaxxed, haven't tested positive ... yet. 

They were supposed to come to our place for a family gathering yesterday but pulled out when the boys developed symptoms.

My daughter and son in law now have COVID too; just mild cold symptoms.

My daughter says the boys are well enough to wrestle and make a lot of noise  ;D
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball