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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6915 –
Quote from: dodge on
Interestingly, we spoke to the Covid hotline, and we didn't need to start the isolation period again for the new infections, so our daughter went back to school at the same time as our son, while my wife and I were isolating.
Yep, this seems to be the technical difference between being ill like having symptoms and being infectious.

The general public think you are infectious when you are ill, but it seems by the time you are ill the infectious period has mostly passed.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6916 –
The time for vigilance is not over yet,

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/03/omicron-is-trouncing-the-argument-for-natural-immunity-to-covid/

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201607

The long term trick here is going to be vigilance combined with early and appropriate action, people need to adjust because things are not going back to the way they were anytime soon.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6917 –
I fear our politicians are demonstrating just how indifferent they can be to the plight of everyday people.

Scomo in particular seems to be using a popularist viewpoint to call for changes to the COVID ISO rules, while in the background case numbers and deaths are now starting to rise for the first time in many weeks. Some domestic regions are even re-establishing COVID wards, which is a tad alarming for those of us watching on.

Scomo has basically made a very public bet using everybody's welfare, that things won't get bad by the time election day comes around, which can only be 4 to 6 weeks away! A vote for Scomo is a vote for freedom, except it looks like it won't be, he is betting that a new COVID wave doesn't hit before we vote!

Fortunately, the number of ICU cases is low as a percentage of total cases, but the case spike is alarming and the total is quite quite big in some regions. From what I can tell Omicron is about 1/3rd as acute as other variants, but that is offset by increased virulence and seemingly reduce resistance in over 65s.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6918 –
^^

I understand that the numbers are concerning, but the reality is that across the globe people are living in relative normality and not wearing masks, attending the office etc, and whilst cases rise, the hospitalisations are low.  If you eliminated the positives that werent even that sick, then the concern is actually not too great in the greater populace.  I can tell you, I have caught the train for the last 2 months, and still no where near it.

Somehow, in my sisters household, her son copped it, then 4 days later she did, and then a week later the middle child caught it at school.  Brother in law is still negative, and they have taken 0 measures.  IF you cant catch it living with someone who is positive (note same bed, not really isolating etc) then a lot of the iso rules are a bonafide waste of time.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6919 –
Vaccination requirements easing in QLD.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-queensland-update-more-restrictions-eased-across-queensland-from-thursday-april-14/c168af87-0633-47f3-a5b9-9cce0d7285d7

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Most venues across Queensland will be open to unvaccinated people as the state eases a raft of COVID-19 restrictions next week.
Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk announced today that hospitality and tourism venues will be open to "everyone regardless of vaccination status" from 1am on Thursday April 14.
The venues include pubs, clubs, cafes and restaurants, theme parks, casinos and cinemas, weddings, showgrounds, galleries, libraries, museums and stadiums.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6920 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
IF you cant catch it living with someone who is positive (note same bed, not really isolating etc) then a lot of the iso rules are a bonafide waste of time.
They are flat out trying to find out why this happens, it is quite a common story in households with many generations and it's not always the young people that avoid a dose, if they can work out the why it could lead to a breakthrough treatment / cure.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6921 –
80% of my work have had it now. Some of the remaining have never taken a test so there is a good chance they have had it too.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6922 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
80% of my work have had it now. Some of the remaining have never taken a test so there is a good chance they have had it too.

Exactly.

Reports in the media of one in six people having had Covid made me laugh. So many folks (that I know) have had symptoms but haven't had a test.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6923 –
I don't know 1 person in my side of the family that has had it.
Not me, my brothers, my parents, my grandparents, my uncles/aunties/cousins etc. Not 1.
My wifes side of the family has had several people have it, a lot of them from travelling interstate etc.

From my 6 families of regular friends, its gone through 2 families only.

From 7 similarly roled people at my work, only 1 has got it.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6924 –
After a very slow start, Omicron has gone through my family, friends and workmates. If I had to guesstimate, 50-60% of every person I know has had it. Me, my wife and youngest daughter haven't. My eldest and her partner are currently isolating with it. My Mum and MIL haven't.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6925 –
They Trumpernutters spent years telling us COVID was fake and it was just a cold.

Now they are out dancing in the streets "Cos COVIDs gunna kill Pelosi!"

Completely consistent and rational behaviour!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6926 –
Considering Vic and NSW state governments are seriously looking at dropping mandates for unvaxed with word being they will be allowed back into restaurant bars etc I wonder if the afl will also do a back flip.

Probably not as I’m there would have been a fair portion of players that got it when they didn’t really want to so would probably just cause them more issues.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6927 –
Quote from: shawny on
Considering Vic and NSW state governments are seriously looking at dropping mandates for unvaxed with word being they will be allowed back into restaurant bars etc I wonder if the afl will also do a back flip.
This is not the universal push that the media are making out, it's being driven by Scomo for political purposes, he has a number of seats on the brink and is pushing for every trivial vote he can find, including the nutter vote.

If Scomo goes down this path, the rest of the general public should drop him like a hot rock!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6928 –
Quote from: shawny on
Considering Vic and NSW state governments are seriously looking at dropping mandates for unvaxed with word being they will be allowed back into restaurant bars etc I wonder if the afl will also do a back flip.

Probably not as I’m there would have been a fair portion of players that got it when they didn’t really want to so would probably just cause them more issues.

They wont create policy on the run.

The policy was based on list management decisions made towards the end of last year, and that will stay in place for season 2022.

Season 2023 will be interesting for the likes of Liam Jones though if the vaccine mandates drop.

FWIW, they wont remove the mandate from all settings.  Health care and government workers will forever need to be vaccinated now but we might see some spin that becomes covid and flu vaccine combined.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #6929 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
They wont create policy on the run.

The policy was based on list management decisions made towards the end of last year, and that will stay in place for season 2022.

Season 2023 will be interesting for the likes of Liam Jones though if the vaccine mandates drop.

FWIW, they wont remove the mandate from all settings.  Health care and government workers will forever need to be vaccinated now but we might see some spin that becomes covid and flu vaccine combined.


Agree...Nurses still being sacked for not getting the booster.I know of three specialist nurses who had bad side effects from the second jab who refused the booster and were fired soon after. Stupid waste of talent and a waste of money given the training and experience they had.