Snuck over the line in a thriller !!
Well done boys, way to HOLD ON. ;D
edge of your seat stuff.
well done, showed ticker.
Wasn't able to see the game today, so any player performance summaries and overall impressions of the game would be much appreciated.
Stood up to watch the last three minutes :D
Couldn't stay sitting......neither could Mick ;)
Big tick for the recruiters today.
Everitt was BOG and sealed it with that tackle on Sloane.
Docherty and Thomas great.
Jacobs and Betts were unfortunately good for the opposition.
Good to get a win when we are playing like crap!
I need 4 or 5 espresso's to calm down after that. Pheeeeew that was a nerve wracking finish
A win is a win and I'll take it, but I hope we don't dish that up against the Lions next week, or any other team.
Big tick for the recruiters today.
Everitt was BOG and sealed it with that tackle on Sloane.
Docherty and Thomas great.
Jacobs and Betts were unfortunately good for the opposition.
Our CHF Betts had a fair game also,
A win is a win and I'll take it, but I hope we don't dish that up against the Lions next week, or any other team.
Our kicking will have to be heaps better >:(
A win is a win and I'll take it, but I hope we don't dish that up against the Lions next week, or any other team.
Exactamundo!
If not for Simmo we would have been well and truly rooted today!
A win is a win and I'll take it, but I hope we don't dish that up against the Lions next week, or any other team.
Our kicking will have to be heaps better >:(
That easy miss from Waite would have been deadly costly had it not been for Doc
Look it wasn't a great game to watch....but the team we beat got over Collingwood last week.
We're going a lot better than we were 4 weeks ago.
Improvement is all we can ever ask for.
That will be enough to beat the Lions....as long as we don't expect an easy time.
Great gutsy win, Crows came at us all afternoon and we held them off. Could have sworn Eddie was going to kick the winning goal, almost as if it was meant to be but we held them out. Special mentions to:
Docherty - Scotland reincarnated for sure, courage running back with the flight, parked himself under a high ball and held his ground with Jenkins baring down on him. Tidy neat disposal.
Thomas - finally managed to make a decent impact.
Everitt - some big moments in the last quarter
Any comments on Rowe carrots?
You said you were going to watch out for him after a few of us have been pumping him up.
Reckon he was rock solid again down back and cannot recall him being beaten one-on-one all night.
Any comments on Rowe carrots?
You said you were going to watch out for him after a few of us have been pumping him up.
Reckon he was rock solid again down back and cannot recall him being beaten one-on-one all night.
He was unfairly crucified by the umpires for that deliberate out of bounds, how they made that decision is beyond me.
@kruddler
Yep thought he definitely held his own and a great intercept spoil in the dying minutes. Nothing special offensively but very solid defensively.
@Sheik
Thought that was a clear deliberate TBH.
No way Carrots, that is even more biased against Rowe than I am for Casboult or Gibbs !!
I'm not biased against Rowe.
I thought Cas was our best big man and Rowe was very good down back.Doc menz and Buckley until subbed all good .best game by Thomas by the length of the street.Everrat excellent simo normally great.Walker should be moved permanently forward ,ellard to the seconds with Garlett and I'm he's biggest fan.And Yaz is the man.Caz should be played every week as he gives us a contest whenever the ball is near him and the goal he kicked and mark and hand of to Yaz is what got us the Leeds in the first place.Henderson very average tonight ,Tuohy had some good moments and some terrible moments 'McLean murph and Gibbs all had there moments but never really tore the match open
The Yaz and Cas show?
Super impressed with White and Rowe - won some crucial contests in the last quarter.
I'm not biased against Rowe.
Rowe is filling a role this year.
Most effective as a backman.
I love it how he gives it to the opposition
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@kruddler
Yep thought he definitely held his own and a great intercept spoil in the dying minutes. Nothing special offensively but very solid defensively.
@Sheik
Thought that was a clear deliberate TBH.
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You can't be serious...BS.
The Yaz and Cas show?
Thought Yarran was too in and out to get a vote, Casboult still does a fecking stupid thing for ever good thing he does.
Liked Simmo, Gibbs, Docherty and Everitt.
@Flyboy
What did you think he was trying to do? It was all too obvious.
@Flyboy
What did you think he was trying to do? It was all too obvious.
I'm with you on this Carrots. He intentionally went straight over the line when he had room to turn and go along the line a it. He played well all night though.
Arguably the best game of football Everitt has ever played. Outstanding in every respect.
I'm not sure anyone had 8/10 night or above. Everitt, Docherty and Simmo maybe.
Everyone else had good and bad patches.
Up until the last quarter Yarran was going beautifully but then short armed a couple of defensive efforts that could have cost us the game.
@Flyboy
What did you think he was trying to do? It was all too obvious.
I agree, the mistake he made was paddling the ball with his hand, if he'd just let it run out there wouldn't have been a problem.
The one we got paid earlier in the game was far worse, a miskick out of congestion and paid deliberate, shocking decision.
Anyway, a win's a win I guess but neither team will be around when the whips are cracking.
Good game from Thomas and swapping Hampson for Everitt is looking better all the time, thanks Tigers. ;)
Docherty looks very polished, Menzel looks like a gun of the future but it's going to get harder for him as other teams pay him more attention.
Gibbs and Murphy are both playing very consistent football, Waite's attack on the ball is something that always makes us a better team.
A couple of poor games but there's no point bagging out players, we all know who the scrubbers are.
Not sure I agree with the commentary that the game was a poor standard - Adelaide's midfield is fairly accomplished and all of Thomson, Sloane, Dangerfield and Douglas are first class, so I was pretty happy to gets across the line.
Well done to Docherty, Everrit, Menzel, Gibbs and Casboult. And, the roar Daisy got in the last quarter was deafening - I for or let rip after 8 weeks of every man and his dog reminding me that he Isa 700k mistake. Well, who knows??
Twice this year the game has been in the balance in the final quarter and twice Thomas has stood up with the type of leadership and 'lead from the front' that you associate with Swan and Pendelbury.
Make no mistake, he'll be an asset!
And, the roar Daisy got in the last quarter was deafening - I for or let rip after 8 weeks of every man and his dog reminding me that he Isa 700k mistake. Well, who knows??
I forgot Daisy, he was good.
We may never see the explosive brilliance again but he does the team things very well and there's no doubting his skill, I think he'll be a very valuable player for us for four or five years.
I'm not sure anyone had 8/10 night or above. Everitt, Docherty and Simmo maybe.
Everyone else had good and bad patches.
Up until the last quarter Yarran was going beautifully but then short armed a couple of defensive efforts that could have cost us the game.
What about the stuff he did to win the game?
Dropped mark cost a goal, apart from that I thought he was one of our best.
5AA talkback is gonna be a blast.. nice to see us cause the blowtorch to be re-directed somewhere else for a change.
I'm not sure anyone had 8/10 night or above. Everitt, Docherty and Simmo maybe.
Everyone else had good and bad patches.
Up until the last quarter Yarran was going beautifully but then short armed a couple of defensive efforts that could have cost us the game.
What about the stuff he did to win the game?
Dropped mark cost a goal, apart from that I thought he was one of our best.
I thought I said that.
He was terrific, but those two (it was two) were situations that he needed to do better.
Not a pretty win, but 4 points on the board will do just fine. The last 3 mins of the third quarter could have completely killed us and I expect mick to concentrate on the quarter fade outs. Otherwise we could have won by more, letting easy goals go the other way. Typical of what our season has been like.
Actually I thought that was one of our best team efforts over four quarters. Yes we let them get back in the game twice but then to stand tall and still find the guts to win speaks volumes about where the team are at mentally. This is not the same unit that lost to the Bummers and the Dees.
They still make terrible decisions - three in three minutes in the third quarter - and they're still well short of the top four and five sides but at the moment they are clearly playing for the jumper. And isn't that what we screaming for six weeks ago?
Also thought MM out coached Sanderson. The match ups were spot on and forced Sanderson to make weird choices like throw J-Pod down back.
Hope Buckley isn't too badly injured.
I wanna pay credit to Simon White. Thought he was fantastic down back for us. Really coming into his own down there.
Hendo is worrying me a little. From the tv coverage, he was nowhere to be seen :-\ play him down back to get his confidence back.
Touhy has gone backwards this year I reckon. Unlike last year, I panic when he's near the ball and even when he has it!! Too many turnovers and for the apprenticeship he has served, he should be getting a lot more of it and using it better.
Garlett threatened to make an impact but sadly that's all it was- a threat.
Ellard????? Too many negatives to get a senior game I reckon. Kicked a nice goal but lacks size, lacks height , lacks pace..........good wet weather hard nut slog it out footballer but how often do we play in conditions like that??
Fairly even contribution from all today was a positive but slow ball movement and terrible disposal still fills me with no confidence that we're going anywhere in a hurry.
Critical mistakes from senior players in the last by jamo waite and gibbs cost us 3 goals
Top 4 teams dont do this
Btw simpsons 3 kicks to opponents was noted
Betts is an absolute downhill skier- got in game when it opened out.....
Twice this year the game has been in the balance in the final quarter and twice Thomas has stood up with the type of leadership and 'lead from the front' that you associate with Swan and Pendelbury.
Make no mistake, he'll be an asset!
He certainly showed some emotion when he kicked that goal.
I was at the game today. Umpiring from number 11 was absolutely disgraceful. Betts gained confidence after his first 2 goAls. The first was a 50 metre penalty that shouldn't have been and the other resulted from an obvious push in the back free to the Blues that was once again missed by the umpire. Touhey did OK. He do is not fit. Nowhere near what he was last season. Gibbs was very good. Simmo was excellent. Both White and Rowe did very well down back. Both Buckley and Docherty are playing for the jumper.
Did anyone else notice that the siren was a second late, the clock ticked to zero while the ball was in the air
I was at the game today. Umpiring from number 11 was absolutely disgraceful. Betts gained confidence after his first 2 goAls. The first was a 50 metre penalty that shouldn't have been and the other resulted from an obvious push in the back free to the Blues that was once again missed by the umpire. Touhey did OK. He do is not fit. Nowhere near what he was last season. Gibbs was very good. Simmo was excellent. Both White and Rowe did very well down back. Both Buckley and Docherty are playing for the jumper.
Spot on, Eddies second goal should have been a free to Murphy for either too high or holding the man
I wanna pay credit to Simon White. Thought he was fantastic down back for us. Really coming into his own down there.
Just don't tell him. :-X
I wanna pay credit to Simon White. Thought he was fantastic down back for us. Really coming into his own down there.
Ellard????? Too many negatives to get a senior game I reckon. Kicked a nice goal but lacks size, lacks height , lacks pace..........good wet weather hard nut slog it out footballer but how often do we play in conditions like that??
Agree on both cases.
Simon is certainly playing a great role down back, lov'n his work.
Davey has always had slow leg speed and now he struggles in a contest. Unfortunately injuries are the only reason he is out there getting a game.
Dwayne Russell should stop doing Carlton games , his bias is sickening. eddie McDickhead 's comments after the game, whinging about Sloan being pinged for incorrect disposal and his throw, was just as bad. Learn the rules, the ball left his hand before his fist punched it, thats a throw every day. Didnt hear you mention the deliberate against Rowe, or the mark that was paid at half time that hit the ground.
Slightly off topic - you'd have to wonder if Sanderson is the right man for the Crows. On paper they are a good team, with some genuine quality. I'm a little mystified as to why they're not doing better.
Nice to be the winning team in a close one where the opposition kicked themselves out of it. Usually the other way around for us but hey bad kicking is bad football. We're still way off the mark compared to the top 8 teams but all I'm looking for now is positives.
Rowe has slowly got better week by week but I'm still not sold. His deliberate was a crap call but he paddled it over the line when he didn't even need to touch the ball!! Just stupid.
I've till got reservations about White also but too is playing well enough at the moment to still get a game.
I really hope Menzel achieves the potential he has shown us early on in his career. Fingers crossed.
Murph I thought was outstanding. Pretty good game by Gibbs but I really think he is a lazy type.
I think Caz is starting to really improve also. I now expect him to take every mark he goes for. He is also serviceable in the ruck
Our pick-ups this year look like they may pay dividends. Everett, Docherty and Thomas were all great tonight.
Simmo was awesome.
Plenty of body on the line stuff tonight which was the most pleasing aspect of our game I thought.
Still at the end of the day I didn't think we had a chance today and we've walked away with the 4 point so all is good
;D
Slightly off topic - you'd have to wonder if Sanderson is the right man for the Crows. On paper they are a good team, with some genuine quality. I'm a little mystified as to why they're not doing better.
Good point. I had them in the 8 at the start of he year.
Dwayne Russell should stop doing Carlton games , his bias is sickening. eddie McDickhead 's comments after the game, whinging about Sloan being pinged for incorrect disposal and his throw, was just as bad. Learn the rules, the ball left his hand before his fist punched it, thats a throw every day. Didnt hear you mention the deliberate against Rowe, or the mark that was paid at half time that hit the ground.
WOW, glad I'm not the only one.
Thought we were gone at 3/4 time, so to fight it out for a win was a massive and always welcome relief.
I just don't know what's happened with Henderson, his past month has been nothing short of terrible in general. No impact, no influence, completely non-existent and unfortunately for him he hasn't been able to be thrown into the back line to find some touch 'cos of the form of White and Rowe. I just don't understand what's going on with him.
Daisy's goal in the last.....reckon he was relieved as much as he was jubilant. That was almost the exact same shot he had against the Pies and we all know how that ended up. His shot was right in front of our bay of seats and his fist-pump to the crowd when it sailed through was a huge team lift and it was great seeing the response from his new teammates, as set shots have very much been his Achilles heel this year.
A tough contest between let's face it, two middle-of-the-road teams, but I'll take any win any day of the week.
Slightly off topic - you'd have to wonder if Sanderson is the right man for the Crows. On paper they are a good team, with some genuine quality. I'm a little mystified as to why they're not doing better.
Good point. I had them in the 8 at the start of he year.
Ditto the Blues?
Slightly off topic - you'd have to wonder if Sanderson is the right man for the Crows. On paper they are a good team, with some genuine quality. I'm a little mystified as to why they're not doing better.
Good point. I had them in the 8 at the start of he year.
Ditto the Blues?
The sort of question that's bound to draw the ire of the Pro MM mob.
To digress, does anyone else have 'raised eyebrows' when they reflect on Port's stellar form this season?
Could someone at the club please teach Rowe how to run the ball over the boundry without being to obvious, thats twice in three games he has been pinged for deliberate.
To digress, does anyone else have 'raised eyebrows' when they reflect on Port's stellar form this season?
In what way ? You mean the all out attack, kamikaze style of footy ?
Could someone at the club please teach Rowe how to run the ball over the boundry without being to obvious, thats twice in three games he has been pinged for deliberate.
Tonight's was a simply disgraceful decision imo.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-match-report/carlton-holds-out-adelaide-for-narrow-win-20140525-zrnsr.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-match-report/carlton-holds-out-adelaide-for-narrow-win-20140525-zrnsr.html)
Could someone at the club please teach Rowe how to run the ball over the boundry without being to obvious, thats twice in three games he has been pinged for deliberate.
Tonight's was a simply disgraceful decision imo.
Agreed, I thought it was harsh, but he should have learned when they pinged him against WC a couple of weeks ago, dont run straight at the boundry line
Could someone at the club please teach Rowe how to run the ball over the boundry without being to obvious, thats twice in three games he has been pinged for deliberate.
Tonight's was a simply disgraceful decision imo.
Agreed, I thought it was harsh, but he should have learned when they pinged him against WC a couple of weeks ago, dont run straight at the boundry line
Sure, but given the distance to the boundary where the contest took place and the speed at which he was moving, was there any other option?
Could someone at the club please teach Rowe how to run the ball over the boundry without being to obvious, thats twice in three games he has been pinged for deliberate.
Tonight's was a simply disgraceful decision imo.
Agreed, I thought it was harsh, but he should have learned when they pinged him against WC a couple of weeks ago, dont run straight at the boundry line
Sure, but given the distance to the boundary where the contest took place and the speed at which he was moving, was there any other option?
He had no chance to gather the ball and in the attempt knocks it over. FMD this happens a squizillion times each week. IMO the ump got caught up in the theatre and made a critical error.
Could someone at the club please teach Rowe how to run the ball over the boundry without being to obvious, thats twice in three games he has been pinged for deliberate.
Tonight's was a simply disgraceful decision imo.
Agreed, I thought it was harsh, but he should have learned when they pinged him against WC a couple of weeks ago, dont run straight at the boundry line
Sure, but given the distance to the boundary where the contest took place and the speed at which he was moving, was there any other option?
I have always believed that in that situation, take the ball run just over the line then kick it down field, the umps will never pay it.
Mick's press conference.......Mentions the pre-season stuff towards the end
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2014-05-25/cfc-tv-malthouse-post-match-r10
I thought it would have been a nice gesture if they had Scotland in the middle when they belted out we are the navy blues after the game
At the end of the replay just then, just after the Simmo interview, you see Eddie hugging the last of his ex-teammates before heading off and wiping his eyes as he made he made his way off the ground. Clearly an emotional game for him and gotta say, I hated every minute of him playing against us.
At the end of the replay just then, just after the Simmo interview, you see Eddie hugging the last of his ex-teammates before heading off and wiping his eyes as he made he made his way off the ground. Clearly an emotional game for him and gotta say, I hated every minute of him playing against us.
First player that's had me sit silently without swearing, whilst he's ripping our backsides open. Not Even those emphatic post goal fist pumps got me riled. Was hoping he pulled out with an injury, we almost lost to our ourselves, with Jacobs and Eddie.
This mob has been silently poaching our players for a while. There's been key 3 players, all of which have been damn good players. Bond, Jacobs, Betts. No duds in that trio. It's time we started to repay the courtesy. P$&@$
He was great today, but is going to have to have a good 2nd half of the season to justify the price tag. If he had of stayed I'm not sure we would be satisfied with his output so far.
He was great today, but is going to have to have a good 2nd half of the season to justify the price tag. If he had of stayed I'm not sure we would be satisfied with his output so far.
Yeah I agree, I'm comfortable with us letting him go when we did, I just wanted something in return.
First player that's had me sit silently without swearing, whilst he's ripping our backsides open.
Despite my utter disappointment and public denunciation of Eddie, I to was a similar figure DU. On Facebook Robbo pre game hoped Eddie played well but walked away with a loss. Got his wish.
To digress, does anyone else have 'raised eyebrows' when they reflect on Port's stellar form this season?
Yep, im with you here. There is something about it that doesnt sit right with me. The meteoric rise is bordering on the unbelievable. They have turned plodders into stars in a very raised eyebrows sort of way.
To digress, does anyone else have 'raised eyebrows' when they reflect on Port's stellar form this season?
Yep, im with you here. There is something about it that doesnt sit right with me. The meteoric rise is bordering on the unbelievable. They have turned plodders into stars in a very raised eyebrows sort of way.
Really??
C'mon guys this sort of speculation would only help serve the scum and no-one at Port could be so stupid.
They have a very good list with some awesome kids and a fresh coach. It's paying dividends. Season is long though.
To digress, does anyone else have 'raised eyebrows' when they reflect on Port's stellar form this season?
Yep, im with you here. There is something about it that doesnt sit right with me. The meteoric rise is bordering on the unbelievable. They have turned plodders into stars in a very raised eyebrows sort of way.
It's called a gun coach, with a great game plan and a team that's buying into it. We should try it some time!
The only reason you watch a game like that is you support either of the two teams. Turnover city.
Negatives
Garlett - Looks scared. Scared of making a mistake and scared of contact. Must go back to the twos and regain some form.
Henderson - Brettie say he doesn't know what's happened over the past month, I do he's a CHB that can pinch hit forward, not a genuine forward.
Touhy - Game is passing you by boy. Doesn't run in straight lines anymore, lost some pace and regard for his man. Lucky that Buckley is injured cause others are flying by him in the pecking order.
Positives
Docherty - To think this kid had an interrupted pre season, he comes in and performs at this level. A true footballer, great disposal, fierce attack at the contest and quick enough. More of a wing that HBF but something to look forward to.
Menzel - A true forward, runs to the right spot, marks and kicks well, great shepherding twice on the goal line to allow goals, hold together knee.
Simpson - Outstanding, should be up there when Ken Hunter and Adrian Hickmont are spoken about.
Yarran - The crowd takes a breath when Yazz gets the ball with a few meters of space in front, quickly becoming an A grade player.
Everitt - Controlled Slone and limited his damage who can tear teams apart.
Umpiring inconsistent and awful, this is what is ruining the game. The 50 of Menzels was techincally there but his action is done 70 times a game. No rewarding tackles and letting players throw the ball away when tackled.
Good win Blues, now Brisbane!
The 50m penalty against Menzal was a disgrace. The mark was taken after the ball was lucky to travel 10m not 15 and should have been called playon as Menzal expected it to be.
Daisy kicked the ball 50m out of defence and I turned to my wife and said that that was the longest kick I had seen him do this year. Not long after that he slotted the goal. Perhaps the first kick gave him confidence?
Take the win in a game that was pretty crap on skill level. Top teams would tear us apart. Good to see majority of supporters not boo Eddie. Deep down, he is a Blue boy and will be remembered as such when he retires.
I thought it was a pretty ordinary game but it was good to see our structures not collapsing even when things weren't going well. Menzel was pretty special and while the Doc was good I thought made some big stuff ups in the dying moments but he's young
Big tick for the recruiters today.
Everitt was BOG and sealed it with that tackle on Sloane.
Docherty and Thomas great.
Jacobs and Betts were unfortunately good for the opposition.
I agree. The other thing last night was the match ups. Malthouse really made some excellent selections:
[1] Everitt on Sloane: Everitt really did well on Sloane, totally blanketing him and making some really good moves himself. Sloan usually plays well against us, but he was a non issue.
[2] Armfield on Dangerfield: Dangerfield managed some clearances (10), but other than that he was particularly ineffective and he really felt the pressure. Armfield was instrumental in a number of our better moves as well.
[3] The key defensive match ups. Our 3 tall defenders really played well and backed each other up very well. They barely allowed any of the Crows' forwards to get a sniff. Walker had to get his kicks between wing and half back, while 2 of Jenkins' 6 disposals (and 2 of his points) came from very ordinary umpiring decisions.
As Shadesy noted, both Betts and Jacobs were up for this one. Zac Tuohy was excellent early on Betts, but Eddie's superior reading of the play allowed him to get 3 of his 4 goals. Andrew Walker and Yazz should be pretty embarrassed allowed Eddie to beat them both at one point.
I was reasonably pleased with Warnock. Jacobs was clearly up for this one and in good form. However, he took only 1 mark on the night, and that on his chest from a turnover. Yes, he did well on the ground and was a part of the Crows' ring a ring a Rosie handball circles. But every time he threatened to give the Crows something in the middle, Warnock stepped up and we got an important clearance.
The 50m penalty against Menzal was a disgrace. The mark was taken after the ball was lucky to travel 10m not 15 and should have been called playon as Menzal expected it to be.
Daisy kicked the ball 50m out of defence and I turned to my wife and said that that was the longest kick I had seen him do this year. Not long after that he slotted the goal. Perhaps the first kick gave him confidence?
Agree entirely. Considering our first 3 marks were all called 'Play on' for being too short, the rule disappeared. That was not the shorted mark paid, but it was less than 15 m by a LONG way. As for Menzel being over the line, that too was an incredible over reaction.
Agree with you Crash on Dangerfield... We never really allowed him to burst away from clearances, and he got smashed several times. Dennis was always there. Dangerfield is some sort of player though. Was clearly in a bit of pain in the 2nd half.
Everett is a big unit, moves well and can run all day. Really stands out for us given we have a lot of midgets. I can't recall if he played on Pendleburry a few weeks ago? Would be giving him a crack next time.
On the Menzel 50m, I'm not even sure after watching the replay that the umpire blew his whistle to award the mark... and in the last qtr when Menzel marked, JPod wandered two steps over the mark, right in front of the umpire. It's one of those rules that they pick and choose when to apply it.
Take the win in a game that was pretty crap on skill level. Top teams would tear us apart. Good to see majority of supporters not boo Eddie. Deep down, he is a Blue boy and will be remembered as such when he retires.
Agree
To digress, does anyone else have 'raised eyebrows' when they reflect on Port's stellar form this season?
Yep, im with you here. There is something about it that doesnt sit right with me. The meteoric rise is bordering on the unbelievable. They have turned plodders into stars in a very raised eyebrows sort of way.
Really??
C'mon guys this sort of speculation would only help serve the scum and no-one at Port could be so stupid.
They have a very good list with some awesome kids and a fresh coach. It's paying dividends. Season is long though.
I mentioned it a few weeks ago, has a very familiar MO, running out games after playing brutal footy. Not a stretch to raise eyebrows now that the AFL is just as taineted as other sports :-\
To digress, does anyone else have 'raised eyebrows' when they reflect on Port's stellar form this season?
Yep, im with you here. There is something about it that doesnt sit right with me. The meteoric rise is bordering on the unbelievable. They have turned plodders into stars in a very raised eyebrows sort of way.
Really??
C'mon guys this sort of speculation would only help serve the scum and no-one at Port could be so stupid.
They have a very good list with some awesome kids and a fresh coach. It's paying dividends. Season is long though.
I mentioned it a few weeks ago, has a very familiar MO, running out games after playing brutal footy. Not a stretch to raise eyebrows now that the AFL is just as taineted as other sports :-\
Given what has gone on recently on this issue, it would nothing short of extraordinary for any club to attempt such a thing.
Actually it was me who mentioned it but all in jest.
The umpiring was awful, but it effected both sides. The Thompson deliberate was as bad as the Rowe. The Menzel 50, though, really annoyed me. He was moving to the player when the ball was in the air and then wasn't given a chance to move. What was he meant to do?
Worst of all was the Jenkins 'mark' at the end of the third. Clearly grassed it and everyone knew, except for the umpire.
Another good win against solid opposition considering we're still far from full strength. 4 wins from the last 5 games and we're one of the form sides in the comp at the moment, hopefully it will be 5 from 6 heading into the Cats blockbuster.
Hendo had another bitch of a night. What do to with him?
Hendo had another bitch of a night. What do to with him?
Unfortunately, we are that short of key position options we just have to keep playing him.
Give him time, he'll come good. At worst he takes a defender. Sooner or later, someone will man up on Waite or Casboult with the number one defender and Henderson will kick a few early and turn it all around.
The good thing about Henderson is despite him not playing well, he still works hard and tries to impact the game in some way. You dont cramp up during a game from standing still. Should have passed off that kick for goal to someone else though.
Any news on Buckley? Was tearing it up before he got injured. I cannot believe the confidence this kid now plays with after cementing his spot in the side. Never holds on to the ball too long, chooses the right option and hits his targets more often than not.
Hendo had another bitch of a night. What do to with him?
CHB ....
Hendo had another bitch of a night. What do to with him?
CHB ....
I like what Jamo, Rowe and White are doing. I wouldn't be wanting to mess with that to find a spot for an out of for forward. Besides he still takes a good defender and frees up Waite.
Any news on Buckley? Was tearing it up before he got injured. I cannot believe the confidence this kid now plays with after cementing his spot in the side. Never holds on to the ball too long, chooses the right option and hits his targets more often than not.
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Any news on Buckley? Was tearing it up before he got injured. I cannot believe the confidence this kid now plays with after cementing his spot in the side. Never holds on to the ball too long, chooses the right option and hits his targets more often than not.
Couple of terrible clangers early though (he was under a heap of pressure).. Hope that doesn't become a habit because he should turn into some sort of mid if his skills are sharp.
Hendo had another bitch of a night. What do to with him?
CHB ....
Hendo is struggling for form. No doubt. Lets not forget that he basically had no pre season. had one game for NB before being selected for round 1. Behind the 8 ball
I thought a draw would have been befitting for this abysmal match. This is best effort these two sides can put together? *shudders*
Thank goodness for quality beers on tap at home.
I was laughing along with a cows mate at the p!ss poor kicking efficiency, dodgy umpiring calls, woeful shots for goal, 80m backwards plays,...
It must have been a long time since we won after a bye too?
We have a long way to go. Good to see Docerty get some pill though.
Dwayne Russell should stop doing Carlton games , his bias is sickening. .
I reckon the first time he called a Carlton players' name, was about 5mins in "Menzel..... he's a good South Australian lad".
Dwayne Russell should stop doing Carlton games , his bias is sickening. .
I reckon the first time he called a Carlton players' name, was about 5mins in "Menzel..... he's a good South Australian lad".
Was it just me, or did he on numerous occasions call Waite Thomas?
Is Dangerfield on our radar recruiting wise?
Would replace Judd when he retires...but here's wishing, although we would have a packet of money we could throw at him. 8)
Is Dangerfield on our radar recruiting wise?
Would replace Judd when he retires...but here's wishing, although we would have a packet of money we could throw at him. 8)
How good would he be for us?
He'd almost make us top 6 on his own.
Is Dangerfield on our radar recruiting wise?
Would replace Judd when he retires...but here's wishing, although we would have a packet of money we could throw at him. 8)
He would command big $$$$. Don't think we could afford him. Anyway. More than lilely he will remain a crow, Can't see him going anywhere
I thought a draw would have been befitting for this abysmal match. This is best effort these two sides can put together? *shudders*
Thank goodness for quality beers on tap at home.
I was laughing along with a cows mate at the p!ss poor kicking efficiency, dodgy umpiring calls, woeful shots for goal, 80m backwards plays,...
It must have been a long time since we won after a bye too?
We have a long way to go. Good to see Docerty get some pill though.
didn't think it was that bad a game. You can only play as well as your allowed to on the day/night. Sure neither side is a top 4 contender, but the result was right result IMO. Furthermore i think we came out of it with much more to build on than they did, much more even spread of key and younger contributors than them.
Is Dangerfield on our radar recruiting wise?
Would replace Judd when he retires...but here's wishing, although we would have a packet of money we could throw at him. 8)
He would command big $$$$. Don't think we could afford him. Anyway. More than lilely he will remain a crow, Can't see him going anywhere
We should have a bit of cash from Scotland & Judd - potentially Carrots and Waite (Dangerfield has a contract for next year so we're talking 2016). Gibbs has been a few weeks from committing for about 3 months now so potentially more cash there.
I wanna pay credit to Simon White. Thought he was fantastic down back for us. Really coming into his own down there.
Hendo is worrying me a little. From the tv coverage, he was nowhere to be seen :-\ play him down back to get his confidence back.
Touhy has gone backwards this year I reckon. Unlike last year, I panic when he's near the ball and even when he has it!! Too many turnovers and for the apprenticeship he has served, he should be getting a lot more of it and using it better.
Garlett threatened to make an impact but sadly that's all it was- a threat.
Ellard????? Too many negatives to get a senior game I reckon. Kicked a nice goal but lacks size, lacks height , lacks pace..........good wet weather hard nut slog it out footballer but how often do we play in conditions like that??
Fairly even contribution from all today was a positive but slow ball movement and terrible disposal still fills me with no confidence that we're going anywhere in a hurry.
Very happy with the win.
Agree with the comments re Hendo and Touhey. Frankly they were both cr@p. Hendo is not only completely out of form, but is becoming Gibbs like3 in his lack of attack on the ball.
If anyone wants to know how a midfielder like Gibbs SHOULD attack the ball, I hope you watched Dangerfield. Probably played with a busted rib, but what a player. Reminded me of the Dominator. If Gibbs AND for that matter Hendo, had half the guts of a Dangerfield, or a Simmo, then they might actually earn their keep.
Touhey hasn't got, and I don't know if he ever will have, a football brain. The betts goal against him, said it all for me. Touhey had the mark, went to kick it, but second guessed himself, lost the ball, it went to Eddie, goal. At the moment he's a liability, but we don't have anyone to replace him.
White has improved out of sight. I don't care what anyone says, I still have my heart in my mouth and cover my eyes every time Rowe goes near the ball. he's better than he was 5 weeks ago, but he's a long way away from being a good reliable defender. And I counted 4 times when he could have easily marked the ball, but went for the punch.
Loved Daisys game. he will be a real asset to us as he gets fitter. Andre and Troy very good. I thought Murphy was very good especially in the third quarter.
Waite does attack the ball, but always over-commits and falls over too much. And his record from a set shot when we are desperate for him to kick a goal, is appalling.
Walker is disappointing. Gives away too many frees, slips over, and can't hit a target when he kicks.
Levi, still not a CONSISTENT, second effort once he drops a mark. he follows up some times but not always.
We are still a long way away from the better teams, and the real test for us comes next week against Brissy. That's right, next week.
Brissy are totally stuffed. And if we don't beat them by 80 points or more, then it will tell us all we need to know about this team. WWe haven't buried a side for years. We need % if we are to have even the slightest chance of a top 8 finish. next week is the week to get some. let's see how they go.
Love to have a player of the calibre of Danger, but I wouldn't pay out $10mil for him though!! :o
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-should-offer-patrick-dangerfield-a-10-million-contract/story-fni5f1tu-1226930359161 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-should-offer-patrick-dangerfield-a-10-million-contract/story-fni5f1tu-1226930359161)
Is Dangerfield on our radar recruiting wise?
Would replace Judd when he retires...but here's wishing, although we would have a packet of money we could throw at him. 8)
How good would he be for us?
He'd almost make us top 6 on his own.
When are we going to completely ditch the 'throw money at the problem" mentality ??
It may have worked well for us in the old days but it is a different landscape now and the reality is that you need a greater spread of players to win it these days.
Is Dangerfield on our radar recruiting wise?
Would replace Judd when he retires...but here's wishing, although we would have a packet of money we could throw at him. 8)
How good would he be for us?
He'd almost make us top 6 on his own.
When are we going to completely ditch the 'throw money at the problem" mentality ??
It may have worked well for us in the old days but it is a different landscape now and the reality is that you need a greater spread of players to win it these days.
Forget Dangerfield, but Im not against trying to poach one of GWS's forwards come seasons end.. Then draft and trade for the rest..
Mick is good at searching for players at other clubs that will provide a role for his teams..
Hendo had another bitch of a night. What do to with him?
CHB ....
Thing is there's no-where to put him now in defence. Jammo and Rowe are going well so I wouldn't want to replace either with a player out of form.
Is Dangerfield on our radar recruiting wise?
Would replace Judd when he retires...but here's wishing, although we would have a packet of money we could throw at him. 8)
How good would he be for us?
He'd almost make us top 6 on his own.
When are we going to completely ditch the 'throw money at the problem" mentality ??
It may have worked well for us in the old days but it is a different landscape now and the reality is that you need a greater spread of players to win it these days.
Landscape has changed again from 3 years ago. We can't model ourselves on what the approach was 10 years ago. We have money to spend, what do you do with it? Keep it and give it to Swann as a bonus?
If we can find $700k to throw at a one legged ex-pie we can find $800k to throw at a 24 year old match winning bull.
there's some slack in the list that might get it done without effecting the integrity of the list as a whole. Kruizer and the future contracting of Waite should be critically reviewed for starters.
I believe Waite might be on a fair bit (someone correct me if wrong).
I believe Waite might be on a fair bit (someone correct me if wrong).
At a guess he'd be on at least 400 and Kruizer's likewise ?
I thought closer to 600k. I might be wrong.
I thought closer to 600k. I might be wrong.
You might be right. Combine those together and there's a decent war chest. The Kruizer, more than the Waite, situation is a worry AFAIC. HoW long do you wait before biting the bullet.
Based on the fine the club gave him last year and the rules in the player contracts which specifies the fine conditions, his salary is about 500k. It may be backloaded so maybe more this year.
Based on the fine the club gave him last year and the rules in the player contracts which specifies the fine conditions, his salary is about 500k. It may be backloaded so maybe more this year.
Even at the lowest end, those 2 combined are likely to provide better value in the way of an earlier draft pick, an additional spot on the list, and additional currency to throw at a top notch player. With Kruizer especially, it's gotta be better value for the club to cash in rather than having his wage and list spot tied up in a recovery ward.
I wandered in to the Kulgera Roadhouse bar for happy hour and the last half was showing on a fairly small TV. There were three Adelaide supporters in the bar and five Carlton supporters. They gave it to us when Eddie scored but it was great to have the last laugh.
My view of the action wasn't that good, the position of the screen rather than the number of beers, but it seemed to me that Dangerfield lacks awareness for a bloke who is supposed to be a gun :-\
Great win by the boys, particularly with Henderson not getting near the ball. It was particularly pleasing to see Docherty, Menzel and Everitt doing well and Thomas went pretty close to earning his pay.
Any report on the Dylan Buckley injury??
I wandered in to the Kulgera Roadhouse bar for happy hour and the last half was showing on a fairly small TV. There were three Adelaide supporters in the bar and five Carlton supporters. They gave it to us when Eddie scored but it was great to have the last laugh.
My view of the action wasn't that good, the position of the screen rather than the number of beers, but it seemed to me that Dangerfield lacks awareness for a bloke who is supposed to be a gun :-\
Great win by the boys, particularly with Henderson not getting near the ball. It was particularly pleasing to see Docherty, Menzel and Everitt doing well and Thomas went pretty close to earning his pay.
Nice part of the world DJC ?
Nice part of the world DJC ?
Definitely! I've been to Lake Eyre, the Oodnadatta Track, Alice Springs, and Chambers Pillar, then drove back down the Old Ghan Railway line. Getting to Kulgera and seeing the boys win was a bonus. ;D
Definitely! I've been to Lake Eyre, the Oodnadatta Track, Alice Springs, and Chambers Pillar, then drove back down the Old Ghan Railway line. Getting to Kulgera and seeing the boys win was a bonus. ;D
Holiday, retirement or work DJC?
Based on the fine the club gave him last year and the rules in the player contracts which specifies the fine conditions, his salary is about 500k. It may be backloaded so maybe more this year.
Even at the lowest end, those 2 combined are likely to provide better value in the way of an earlier draft pick, an additional spot on the list, and additional currency to throw at a top notch player. With Kruizer especially, it's gotta be better value for the club to cash in rather than having his wage and list spot tied up in a recovery ward.
Waite is on veterans list, so, only half of his salary counts towards salary cap. Any new player would have 100% of salary under cap
Not true it's changed, you can have as many players on the VL as you want but each only gets a 100k discount off the cap.
Holiday, retirement or work DJC?
95% retired LP :)
Holiday, retirement or work DJC?
95% retired LP :)
Lucky bastard, good luck to you I'm jealous!
Based on the fine the club gave him last year and the rules in the player contracts which specifies the fine conditions, his salary is about 500k. It may be backloaded so maybe more this year.
Even at the lowest end, those 2 combined are likely to provide better value in the way of an earlier draft pick, an additional spot on the list, and additional currency to throw at a top notch player. With Kruizer especially, it's gotta be better value for the club to cash in rather than having his wage and list spot tied up in a recovery ward.
Waite is on veterans list, so, only half of his salary counts towards salary cap. Any new player would have 100% of salary under cap
Hmmmm ok, so if he's on veterans list and Judd's already taken a massive cut we should already have some serious margin left in our cap?
Ever read a match report in the SA press?
No Carlton players get a mention and the focus is on the Crows getting their act together to secure a finals spot. At least the Melbourne press is more or less neutral.