Next Sunday, down at Casey, at 1400 the Baby Blues get a chance to redeem themselves after the setback they experienced this week.
There will be a number of questions, basically in who, if any, of the missing Carlton listed players come back.
Walker, Sheehan, etc, have to come up this week.
The Development team get to play Casey again, at 1100 as a curtain raiser. Scorpions: I can't seem to be able to spell at the moment.
With Carlton playing on Saturday and the NBs playing on Sunday, all 3 emergencies should play (for the 1st time this year)! That should bolster the squad for starters. Then guys like Silvagni, Buckley, Charlie Curnow, Walker, Sheehan, Smith and McCasker could well be available as well.
With Carlton playing o Saturday and the NBs playing on Sunday, all 3 emergencies should play (for the 1st time this year)! That should bolster the squad for starters. Then guys like Silvagni, Buckley, Charlie Curnow, Walker, Sheehan, Smith and McCasker could well be available as well.
We'll need lots of CFC blokes for this one Capt CRASH. Casey are 2nd top and playing very good footy. I'm looking forward to getting along to this one. Added to the side that took the field on Saturday you'd hope to see (apart from the blokes you mentioned) Boekhorst, Tutt, Cuningham, Whiley and Gowers.
(So, potentially, we should be able to add Boekhorst, Buckley, Cuningham, Curnow, McCasker, Sheehan, Silvagni, Smith, Tutt, Walker and Whiley!)
From the AFL website:
Player Injury Estimated Return
Blaine Boekhorst Hamstring Test
Dylan Buckley Calf Test
Patrick Cripps Calf Test
David Cuningham Hip 1 week
Charlie Curnow Illness TBC
Harry McKay * Back 5 weeks
Ciaran Sheehan Hip 1 week
Andrew Walker Calf Test
Jacob Weitering Shoulder 2-3 weeks
Mark Whiley Calf Test
No mention of Glass-McCasker at all. Nor Gowers. However, most of the 'test' cases will probably play. As for Ciaran Sheehan, who knows?
But there will be a few stronger Carlton players playing this week. (My typing: :( The original version had 'laying', not 'playing'. Was that a Freudian Slip, or was I remembering Brad Pearce? Whatever it was, I'd better get my act together: this is a "G" rated site. :) )
The only thing I will know for certain is that the team named will have relatively little correspondence with the team that actually plays. Just as long as it is a bit better than last week.
No significant injuries at Melbourne, so the Scorpions should be pretty strong on paper.
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Where is SOS??
Where is SOS??
Damn good question!
Even so, the side is looking considerably stronger than the one that took the field last week. Of course, that doesn't mean it will look anything like what has been named, but that is another tale.
I do like that graphic: thanks, Pinot. Much better than my simple list.
Casey Scorpions vs Northern Blues
Sunday 8th May, 2016
Casey Fields at 2.00pm
Casey Scorpions
B: 62. D Terlich 81. L Dunn 70. B Newton
HB: 6. J Munro 1. J Hutchins 75. C Dawes
C: 79. J Smith 54. J Trengove 80. J Grimes
HF: 73. S Frost 74. O McDonald 53. M King
F: 49. S Weideman 20. T Smith 15. D Keilty
R: 59. J Spencer 72. A Neal-Bullen 17. E Morris
Int: 3. C Ambler 43. D Johnston 5. P Pattison 16. J Gains 58. M White 27. A Scott 2. K Wilson 7. B Rutherford
23P: 32. J Briggs
To be honest, this line-up look ridiculously strong, even if some guys go out to Melbourne seniors. There have been weaker looking senior line-ups from Melbourne most weeks in the last decade.
Northern Blues
B: 11. K McGuinness 27. M Jamison 26. M Dick
HB: 7. D Buckley 31. J Foster 4. S Russell
C: 12. B Boekhorst 65. D Viojo 76. J Tutt
HF: 23. H Kerbatieh 18. D Gorringe 10. T Totevski
F: 48. K Jaksch 29. B Casley 67. C Smith
R: 36. C Wood 32. N Graham 1. T Wilson
Int: 38. B Gowers 22. D Aujla 37. T Jones 50. B Jordan 12. Z Ballard 80. M Korcheck 6. G Strachan 54. C McCabe
23P 24. T Roos
Hopefully we can put in more of a 4 quarter effort, instead of a 1.5 to 2 quarter effort.
Casey Scorpions vs Northern Blues
Sunday 8th May, 2016
Casey Fields at 11.00am
Casey Scorpions
B: 28. L Hannon 41. W Collis 17. E Morris
HB: 12. J Lovett 8. T Vander Haar 42. F Anderson
C: 3. C Ambler 9. T Muir 39. J Di Pasquale
HF: 24. J Moncrieff 35. A Ferreira 79. J Smith
F: 16. J Gains 18. B Hillard 47. D Collis
R: 25. O McInerney 10. A Cotte 43. D Johnston
Int: 34. L Beacom 23. M Cox 26. D Johnston 21. L Batten 7. B Rutherford 40. T Wyatt 19. C Stockdale 22. K Mason 33. C MacHaya 31. T Baker 37. Y.Jaffer-Williams 38. D.Gordon
Northern Blues
B: 71. J Caruana 50. B Jordan 78. M Walson
HB: 54. C McCabe 35. K Declase 22. D Aujla
C: 45. D Stevens 5. J Cyster 6. G Strachan
HF: 41. J Cripps 70. S Peet 38. B Gowers
F: 80. M Korcheck 30. S Bolger 53. H Payne
R: 73. A Aurrichio 21. C Barrett 12. Z Ballard
Int: 82. D Iermano 9. J Corboy 77. L Hickey 13. C Adams 40. B Droessler 74. B Malual 72. M Reyment 52. J Booth 61. L McVeigh 64. L Jacques 16. J Thorpe
Jamo won't be playing, as he got a call up against Collingwood. Hope to see the effort, even though Casey look very strong on paper.
Jamo won't be playing, as he got a call up against Collingwood. Hope to see the effort, even though Casey look very strong on paper.
Won't be optimistic heading to the game in terms of result and weather!
But, as usual, my first focus will be our players.
Clem Smith needs some big games.....reckon he has gone under the radar in terms of being in trouble for a new contract , doesnt seem to get more than 10 possies a game
and while he gives effort its not enough to keep him on the list given he doesnt really have any real weapons in his game..
Jamo won't be playing, as he got a call up against Collingwood. Hope to see the effort, even though Casey look very strong on paper.
I didn't notice Jamo after the 3Q today (maybe didn't play even earlier) - anyone know anything? BB said after the game he didn't think we had any injuries.
I didn't notice Jamo after the 3Q today (maybe didn't play even earlier) - anyone know anything? BB said after the game he didn't think we had any injuries.
Jamo was playing, depending on the matchups. He didn't get much ball, but he did a solid defensive job. He spent more time on the bench depending on how Cox and whatnots fit into the forward structure.
To be honest, I don't know if he was 100% fit: after a big crunch like last week I would have given him the week off. However, he managed and did a job.
One of the problems we experience is that our club does play funny buggers with the injury news. Nobody can be 100% certain what is happening, because the club only talks about the injuries it WANTS people to know about. But from how I recall him moving, I was more worried about Daisy Thomas. For a while he looked like he was in trouble. But he came back and played out the game.....
To change the subject somewhat, it is going to be very interesting to see how the boys manage what will be very heavy conditions down at Casey. I am not overly confident about how Clem Smith will go: he hasn't shown me that he is a wet weather player yet. Nor has Boekhorst or Gorringe. On the other hand, I am looking forward to see how Graham does. He was a little stiff to be dropped and has played some good games in slippery conditions.
Thanks Crash. We also were concerned about Daisy for a while and we were relieved to see him come back out looking OK.
Thanks Crash. We also were concerned about Daisy for a while and we were relieved to see him come back out looking OK.
Totally understandable. My heart was in my mouth when I saw him there clutching his shoulder and not getting up. But then clutched just about everything else, so I had no idea where he actually hurt.
He was certainly quieter afterwards, but he did a good job and managed to get up the nose of the Collingwood supporters. He would not be unhappy with how things went.
Just looked on twitter and the Development team are being pounded. But they are kicking against the tide.
NB 0 - 0 - 0
Casey 10 - 1 - 61
Oh No! We just scored! A rushed behind! :)
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The baby Blues just got a goal!
Wow we are getting hammered
That is an understatement. :(
Half Time:
Northern Blues 0 - 3 - 3
Casey 9 - 5 - 59
No goal kickers.
DISPOSALS: Graham 16, Dick 15, Kerbatieh 10, Tutt 9, Viojo-Rainbow 8.
McGuinness off with a serious arm injury.
Graham has 13 contested possessions, 6 tackles and 4 clearances. Not many others may be putting their hands up. But he definitely is.
AFL Victoria Development League
Casey Scorpions 5.3 10.7 15.12 17.14 (116)
Northern Blues 0.0 1.2 1.3 3.6 (24)
GOALS:
Casey Scorpions: Cotte 4 Johnston 2 Ferreira 2 Ambler 2 Baker Johnston Hannon Gordon MacHaya Jaffer-Williams Moncrieff
Northern Blues: Peet 2 Hickey
BEST:
Casey Scorpions: Cotte Moncrieff McInerney Lovett Wyatt Ferreira
Northern Blues: Stevens Declase McCabe Droessler Bolger Jordan
Not a good start to the day.
The luck of the bounce. Trengove gets one to go through. Boekhorst does not and it hits the post.
Captain Tom Wilson was just stretchered off in a neck brace. :( Couldn't be worse news for a team needing on field leadership.
And we had another chance at a goal and missed.
0 - 6 - 6!
There are also reports that Wood is injured.
Gorringe has a groin injury. Not many fit ruckmen left!
And it looks like Buckley has been reported. No idea what for.
Blues 0 - 6 - 6
Scorpions 12 - 6 - 78
:(
Down to one on the bench, and that is including the 23rd man.
Goal to Totevski, after good work in the middle from Buckley.
3/4 Time:
Blues 1 - 6 - 12
Scorpions 12 - 9 - 81
But at least we have kicked a goal. Barely anyone fit left, but... Down 4 players at this point.
They got 2 quick ones. Centre square dominance makes a difference on a day where the tide is so important.
Both McGuinness and Wilson are on their way to Epworth. Both lost feeling, but have now regained it. Taking no chances.
What's happening Crash - WWIII??
We're pretty hard hit by injuries at the moment.
It's not showing up in the seniors because we're managing to cover it, but the lower level is bearing the brunt of that situation as players have to move up to the AFL.
Full time Casey 19-11-125 def Northern Blues 2-6-18
We ended the day with no fit players on the bench and two in hospital
Oh dear.....
:(
What a shocker. Our blokes really did seem clueless. It was slippery but didn't rain. Another pathetic first qtr. No wind advantage.
Korcheck sure did earn his pay today. Worked really hard the big bloke. Well done.
As previously mentioned, 4 blokes down but the boys fought it out - especially after half time. 1 player to rotate in the last qtr.
Yes, Buckley was reported.
Much prefer Buckley down back. He did some good work - dashes through the guts - and was busy all day.
Graham was likely our best. Dick was also okay along with Foster, Rainbow and Tutt.
Boekhorst was busy but like many of his mates had little significant impact on the game.
ANy danger someone can tell us who actually got injured? Was it all NB players?
ANy danger someone can tell us who actually got injured? Was it all NB players?
It's all in the thread Kruds ;)
Just have a look back :D
McGuiness, Wilson, Gorringe and Cam Wood are the injuries.
Yes, all our blokes.
Wilson and McGuiness badly injured and went to hospital. We were down to 19 blokes by midway through the third qtr.
There was also a suggestion Buckley was reported ...Do you know anything about that Baggers?
Yep, had his number taken after a scuffle on the ground with an opponent.
No structure whatsoever. Lot of senior players who just didn't try.
Graham the only four quarter player of any note.. Had a lot of it, tried hard. No mates to support him.
Dick barely sighted all day.
McGuinness injured early. Didn't look good.
Foster well outclassed by Weidemann.
Buckley reported early, nothing in it. Did some nice things, but largely AWOL.
Wood injured, not seen after HT. Tried hard but beaten by Spencer.
Viojo did some nice things around the stoppages, but not enough.
Boekhurst looked like he didn't want to be there. Easily the most disappointing part of the day.
Tutt had a shocker in the first quarter, didn't really redeem himself after that. No concept of wet weather footy skills.
Wilson knocked out early. Huge blow.
Kerbatieh tried hard, but often double/triple teamed by Oscar McDonald, Terlich and Lynden Dunn. He's worth looking at for next year.
Gorringe injured. Did nothing of note.
Totevski kicked our first goal after a huge run through the middle of the ground from Buckley set it up. Barely sighted otherwise.
Jaksch played down back. Tried hard with that much ball coming in, but just overwhelmed.
Casley presented well in the second half but missed some real gimmes that could have brought us back into the game.
Clem Smith tried hard, our main focal point for the first 3 quarters, but like Kerbatieh, often double teamed. Just didn't have the skills to capitalize on his opportunities and really struggled in the slippery conditions.
Korcheck gets the participation award - did a great job as the lone ruck in trying conditions. Casey's midfield just dominated however.
Liked Gowers' first half. Third man up on a number of occasions provided some handy opportunities. Barely sighted after half time.
Northern are getting some pretty good homegrown talent through too. Aujla and Ballard have potential. Strachan was a lone hand in defence, prevented some Casey goals, but coughed up a few with some errant disposal. Having said that, the development side looked like an under 16s side and are well off it.
Peter Jackson VFL 2016
Casey Scorpions 5.3 9.6 12.9 19.11 (125)
Northern Blues 0.1 0.3 1.6 2.6 (18)
GOALS:
Casey Scorpions: Briggs 4 Weideman 4 Grimes 2 Dawes 2 Newton 2 Terlich Morris Spencer King Trengove
Northern Blues: Totevski Kerbatieh
BEST:
Casey Scorpions: Newton Neal-Bullen Grimes Smith Dunn Briggs
Northern Blues: Graham Dick Korcheck Buckley Tutt Boekhorst
I got kicked off the computer early in the last quarter. I'm not disappointed. It was clear that we really fell down today.
As for tonight, I almost didn't want to look at this thread. The only comments could have been bad ones, which is what you expect with such an insipid performance.
Yes, it was a 'perfect storm'. We suffered injuries to guys we could not afford to lose. We already had a raft of injured players unavailable. We were playing a good team on their home patch in conditions we have done poorly in of recent time (at a ground where we have a record that is truly ghastly). Yes, all of that. But I was hoping for some guys to show some heart and some system. It didn't happen.
Best to but this one behind us and move on.
Can we be this bad next week? Possibly. That depends on the injury situation and whether Buckley gets suspended. There MUST be consequences for our severely injured players, but what?
OK, where are we at?
Looking first at the VFL list: it started as basically a completely new list. Now the few experienced players we had are either really struggling or out injured. McGuinness gives a HUGE amount of leadership to our defence when the experienced Carlton players are not there. Wilson is the captain and an honest contributor and Bransgrove, a guy with a heart bigger than he is, has almost run his race due to persistent knee injuries.
Kerbatieh looks like the real deal and Casley could be something if he didn't kick like Casboult.
The Carlton boys: where are they? In the sheds. Our entire draft cohort from last year, the kids we bank on for our future, are all unavailable with injuries. All of them, from Weitering to Glass-McCasker. Remarkable!
When we have a full list, there will be someone like White or Jamison available. Certainly not the case at the moment.
Our midfield is probably the weakest area when the list is available. With out injuries total, it looks pretty bare indeed.
Ruckman: we don't have a lot on our list. We have Kreuzer, Phillips, Gorringe, Wood and Korchek, with 2 of these rookies, one an International Rookie. At the moment we have only Kreuzer (required in the seniors) and Korchek available. That makes life hard for the mids against serious opposition.
Next week our ruck combination will be Aurrechio and Korchek - both Americans and still very much learning the game. If one of them is unavailable, then we will be playing Cripps (who has been playing half forward and doing OK until today).
A few weeks ago we looked pretty good. We had Armfield showing the way and acting as the rover we lack totally. We had Silvagni getting goals and making them out of nothing. We had pace from Cunningham and huge endeavour from Glass-McCasker. We had White being BOG and showing the youngsters how to do it. We even had Liam Jones kicking goals (amazing as that is). Now we have none of that. It shows.
It is amazing, when each week I have been expecting our side to be reinforced by returning Carlton players, to deal with a side that is becoming less and less capable when it looked so good.
I have no idea when Wilson and McGuinness will be back. I don't even know if they WILL be back. But we need leadership out there and we have very little of it.
Boekhorst to do better than those reports I am reading about the NB's...not sure he fits into the Bolton lets play ugly hard football mantra....
Liam Jones has embraced the idea of chase, tackle and apply pressure and its won him his spot back in the seniors....Boaky and the King Tutt need
to toughen up to stay on the list and follow the lead of Jones and get down and dirty...
Boekhorst to do better than those reports I am reading about the NB's...not sure he fits into the Bolton lets play ugly hard football mantra....
Liam Jones has embraced the idea of chase, tackle and apply pressure and its won him his spot back in the seniors....Boaky and the King Tutt need
to toughen up to stay on the list and follow the lead of Jones and get down and dirty...
Yes. Boekhorst needs to see what Jones did to get a spot and learn from it. Tutt knows and has been trying. Smith, I just can't see him making it at this point. He has plenty of endeavour: he just can't get the ball.
Jones is not a complete package, but he at least shows himself to be more than a serviceable player and helping us with some depth. Better than what I have seen from him in the past. A little more size and strength and he could show real value.
Yes. Boekhorst needs to see what Jones did to get a spot and learn from it. Tutt knows and has been trying. Smith, I just can't see him making it at this point. He has plenty of endeavour: he just can't get the ball.
Boekhorst needs to spend as much time with Daisy as possible.
Such a difficult game to really judge many blokes.
Our first 6-8 were okay but we just fell away so badly in terms of personnel after that... way too much left to too few. Then losing 4 players, 1 key on-baller and 3 key talls was the final blow. Sort of game best to just forget about...
Be much better when we've got a few of our recruited boys on the paddock! JGM and SOS were hanging out together and I reckon SOS has grown...
Have to agree with the best players for us posted on the VFL website. Graham was everywhere and along with him Tutt and Korcheck battled hard with cameos from DVR and Gowers. But that was a pretty slender on-ball brigade!
Dick has probably been our most consistent defender this year and did well under consistent and persistent pressure.
My concern with Boekhorst is that he might be a slight upgrade on Kane Lucas... I hope I'm wrong. He ran around a lot yesterday but his impact on the game was disappointing.
Really seemed that a lot of our blokes simply failed to adapt to the conditions and in some respects didn't even seem to 'turn up' (except for Graham, Wilson until hurt, Buckley, Tutt, Dick and Korchek... Foster battled hard but was just overwhelmed). Smith runs around like a headless chook and actually doesn't seem to achieve anything for all his efforts.
A danger sign I noticed from the get go was that Casey were really vocal on the field - seemed all their blokes were constantly yelling encouragement, support and direction to each other. Our blokes were quiet.
Such a difficult game to really judge many blokes.
Our first 6-8 were okay but we just fell away so badly in terms of personnel after that... way too much left to too few. Then losing 4 players, 1 key on-baller and 3 key talls was the final blow. Sort of game best to just forget about...
Be much better when we've got a few of our recruited boys on the paddock! JGM and SOS were hanging out together and I reckon SOS has grown...
Have to agree with the best players for us posted on the VFL website. Graham was everywhere and along with him Tutt and Korcheck battled hard with cameos from DVR and Gowers. But that was a pretty slender on-ball brigade!
Dick has probably been our most consistent defender this year and did well under consistent and persistent pressure.
My concern with Boekhorst is that he might be a slight upgrade on Kane Lucas... I hope I'm wrong. He ran around a lot yesterday but his impact on the game was disappointing.
Really seemed that a lot of our blokes simply failed to adapt to the conditions and in some respects didn't even seem to 'turn up' (except for Graham, Wilson until hurt, Buckley, Tutt, Dick and Korchek... Foster battled hard but was just overwhelmed). Smith runs around like a headless chook and actually doesn't seem to achieve anything for all his efforts.
A danger sign I noticed from the get go was that Casey were really vocal on the field - seemed all their blokes were constantly yelling encouragement, support and direction to each other. Our blokes were quiet.
Never seen a player run so much and have so little idea where the ball is going than Smith...its like the ball avoids him....reckon the coach needs to tell him to drop a gear and look to get some easy receives rather than trying to win his own footy just so he gets the pace of the game..
My concern with Boekhorst is that he might be a slight upgrade on Kane Lucas... I hope I'm wrong. He ran around a lot yesterday but his impact on the game was disappointing.
All Twitter and No Ticker! :o
He needs to read that funny little book;
Dr Strangelove or How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bump!
Such a difficult game to really judge many blokes.
Our first 6-8 were okay but we just fell away so badly in terms of personnel after that... way too much left to too few. Then losing 4 players, 1 key on-baller and 3 key talls was the final blow. Sort of game best to just forget about...
Be much better when we've got a few of our recruited boys on the paddock! JGM and SOS were hanging out together and I reckon SOS has grown...
Have to agree with the best players for us posted on the VFL website. Graham was everywhere and along with him Tutt and Korcheck battled hard with cameos from DVR and Gowers. But that was a pretty slender on-ball brigade!
Dick has probably been our most consistent defender this year and did well under consistent and persistent pressure.
My concern with Boekhorst is that he might be a slight upgrade on Kane Lucas... I hope I'm wrong. He ran around a lot yesterday but his impact on the game was disappointing.
Really seemed that a lot of our blokes simply failed to adapt to the conditions and in some respects didn't even seem to 'turn up' (except for Graham, Wilson until hurt, Buckley, Tutt, Dick and Korchek... Foster battled hard but was just overwhelmed). Smith runs around like a headless chook and actually doesn't seem to achieve anything for all his efforts.
A danger sign I noticed from the get go was that Casey were really vocal on the field - seemed all their blokes were constantly yelling encouragement, support and direction to each other. Our blokes were quiet.
Thanks Baggers, bugger I couldn't make it although there wasn't much to see we would've had a good yarn about the firsts.
My concern with Boekhorst is that he might be a slight upgrade on Kane Lucas...
I have very similar concerns but, in any case, a low bar for comparisons.
Thanks to all posters for the reports.
From late last season and early this season Boekhorst has well. It was only a bit over a month ago people were saying he was a great pick up.
From late last season and early this season Boekhorst has well. It was only a bit over a month ago people were saying he was a great pick up.
They type of player Boeky is, outside runner, means he is better suited to the AFL venues which allow/encourage carrying the ball.
Some of the slop he'd be playing in wouldn't suit his style.
FWIW, i think i've seen him do some pretty hard tackles playing 1's. Certainly not a feature of his game, but its not as if he doesn't have it him.
Nick Graham had 34 touches and 25 tackles.... 25....
That's how you put your hand up for selection.
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Considering that the game was one of the most complete disasters I can think of, there are a couple of very interesting things in the stats:
[1] Nick Graham had 25 tackles! Nick has his issues, but wanting to get back into the seniors isn't one of them. Some players an go through a SEASON without getting 25 tackles in total!
[2] Korchek had 42 tap outs. Considering he was up against Spencer, who has a LOT more experience than he has, I reckon Korchek certainly did his job as well as he could at this point.
[3] Weideman had 8 possessions. That suggests our defenders were not total dead losses. That he kicked 4 goals is a problem, but there are certainly some promising signs in that he can be so held considering how often the ball was down his end.
[4] Boekhorst had 10 tackles.
From late last season and early this season Boekhorst has well. It was only a bit over a month ago people were saying he was a great pick up.
Did well in the preseason games but has been ordinary in his attack on the footy and put the handbrake on in a few contests in his senior games IMO..I think he has talent, carries the ball well, can take a big speccy buBolton is a meat and potatoes coach who likes his footy ugly with plenty of salt and I am not sure Boeky can deliver that style of footy every week..
Saying all that there is room for a Brad/Stephen Hill type outside runner in our team who doesnt need to be all of the above but you have to very very good at what you do to be that player...
I read today that Kieran McGuinness has 3 damaged vertebrae. I'd say his playing days are over, much to our disappointment.
I haven't heard anything about Tom Wilson yet, but he was also sent to Epworth.
I also heard that Gallucci has serious shoulder issues that may keep him out for the rest of the year. I don't know how accurate this is. Hopefully the club will tell us about this.
I know injuries are not something that can be controlled, but I do hope someone is looking into the incidents on Sunday. That we can have 2 players dealt with, perhaps their careers terminated, needs a VERY CLOSE look.
What it does for the Blues' list is another issue, and not a good one. A team on the rebuild, and the NBs are one even more than Carlton has been, need some leadership and experience. This is a huge blow towards that, taking out a Captain, an Assistant Coach and one of the guys we were hoping to be worth promoting.
I can only hope these guys can recover soon. They have my best wishes and hopes.
Nick Graham had 34 touches and 25 tackles.... 25....
That's how you put your hand up for selection.
Yep, hard to knock any harder than that. Contrast to quite a few of the other wannabees.....clearly a class above VFL level is Nick.....
I know injuries are not something that can be controlled, but I do hope someone is looking into the incidents on Sunday. That we can have 2 players dealt with, perhaps their careers terminated, needs a VERY CLOSE look.
Couldn't make it to the game because of Mothers Day commitments which is a bummer as I am just around the corner, but having seen footage of the incidents I didn't think there was malice in either of them. A bit of a sling to Wilson and a crude bump on McGuinness which I'll concede was reckless but i don't think either was outrageous - just going off the footage which of course isn't like being there.
Yep, hard to knock any harder than that. Contrast to quite a few of the other wannabees.....clearly a class above VFL level is Nick.....
Yes has to attract attention but a fast track at Etihad I don't think is his go.
Great to hear that Nick Graham is going so well and keeping up his pressure for a senior game. We need that kind of attitude if we are to really build the overall quality of our list.
Nick Graham had 34 touches and 25 tackles.... 25....
That's how you put your hand up for selection.
Dylan Buckley ZERO tackles.
Nick Graham had 34 touches and 25 tackles.... 25....
That's how you put your hand up for selection.
Is that correct? Thats got to be a record surely. Most in an AFL game is 19 (twice)
Jack Ziebel v Melb this year
Jude Bolton in 2011.
Is that correct? Thats got to be a record surely. Most in an AFL game is 19 (twice)
Jack Ziebel v Melb this year
Jude Bolton in 2011.
Says 14 tackles on alf.com.au. That sounds more likely - still a very good effort.
You can look at that 25 tackle count a few ways;
- He busted a gut never stopped trying.
- He is too slow to get to the ball first, so he tackles.
- He b0rked up a lot of inside ball and tackled the opponent.
- He had to tackle because nobody else would.
If Alistair "Angry Ant" Clarkson saw a stat like that he would first assume Graham's team-mates were not doing their fair share!
Says 14 tackles on alf.com.au. That sounds more likely - still a very good effort.
The stats differ over what they consider a 'completed tackle'. I do not know what the difference in definition actually is, but it is something that has occurred before. The club considers things more harshly, as it is the effect of the tackle, not the grabbing per se, that is more important. By the club's definition Graham had 14. By the official stats service it was 25. No particular big deal.
The same issue arises for kicks and handballs and even ruck taps, although the difference is not normally so significant. I cannot recall differences of more than a couple before.
LP is right: someone like Clarkson, while happy that Graham had made the tackles, would be more worried about why other midfielders had not made a similar contributions.