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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carlton vs North Melbourne
Quote from: Baggers on
Flabbergasted at the negativity here.  :o :o

We fielded a side minus at least 10 straight up starters. The Kangabies were far closer to full strength. The Kangabies had the better of the stats.

We learned so much from this game, as well as winning when all the pundits and some here, thought we would not.

On the negative side, we learned - Lucas is a dud. Bootsma is not far behind.

On the positive side, we saw how much value Everitt will likely bring. We won without 10 'first pick blokes' and non-dominant performances from Murph, Gibbs, Robbo, Waite etc...

On stats alone, we should have lost by about 3-5 goals.

Is there anyone else who'd like acknowledge positive indicators from this first hit-out? Sorry, but I think we did really well in this game and there was much to like about our intensity and endeavour... woops, positive  :-X :-X :-X

I thought given who played us, and o played for them, and that we dominated the game for 2 1/2 quarters, that it was a very good result.

The only real disappointments for me was Lucas, Bootsma and Armfield (who didn't get much game time).

Definite improvement in Bell, Rowe, Watson, Buckley, Cripps, Everitt. Not sure what more we could ask for?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carlton vs North Melbourne
Quote from: kruddler on
Quote from: BluePhantom on
Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on
I reckon that not only are Bell and Robbo starters in our line up but they're very important to the side adding that hardness and perhaps making the opposition think twice before they go.

^^^^^This  x million
Finally we have a couple of players that hurt the oppositio, yes they may turn the ball over a bit,  but they offer more positives than negatives.
Have you seen Juddys games from last year? Did some great things but continually hand balls to the other team and no one is complaining about his disposal.
Yes they lack class but would rather them in than someone like Lucas. ::)

OK, i've asked a few people to do this and nobody has complied, so i'll do it myself and then maybe you'll see why i've been so 'negative' towards Bell and Robbo.

Best 22...
FB   Tuohy  Jamison  Simpson
HB  Walker  Watson  Everitt
C    Gibbs     Judd   Thomas
HF  Yarran  Henderson Garlett
FF  Kreuzer   Waite   Menzel
FOLL Warnock  Murphy  McLean
INT  Scotland Carrazzo Curnow
SUB Armfield

EMG Cachia Bell Robinson Lucas Docherty McInness Casboult Graham Cripps

Which of my starters do you guys want to leave out to fit in Bell and Robinson?
Armfield and Curnow are similar players with more runs on the board compared to those two.
Menzel, Yarran and Garlett might be one small too many, but we could do it while Eddie was here and Menzel offers more marking power and ability to play further up the ground so i don't think thats an issue.
So you want to go with only 1 ruckman?

I just can't see, when fully fit, how they will force there way into our best side.

Armfield and Scotland would be the two I would replace. Other than that, spot on.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carlton vs North Melbourne
Just got back from the game - about 8000 people saw Blues seconds look pretty good for two and a half quarters.

A few observations.

Everett - will play round 1. Is definitely a flanker but boy he adds flexibility. Can take a mark, run, and has good skills.

Bell - will be a superstar if he learn to lower his eyes. Was our second best mid tonight.

McLean - was our best mid.

Cripps - did the tough things. Will take time to adjust to AFL tempo. Don't think he will play rnd 1

Casboult. Took a couple of great grabs and kicking looked a little better. Creates a contest every time he goes for a mark.

Buckley. Has a go but jury well and truly out given his body shape ...

Bootsma. Only if desperate.

Graham. Is Marc Murphy Mk II ... If only he was a little more aware. Think this kid can be really good with more exposure to top level.

Robinson. Always plays like there is no tomorrow. Skills still appalling.

Waite. Ran well. Didn't get the ball.

Yarran. Ordinary first half, better in the second. Played mainly down back. Suspect Mick is keeping him on a special program.

Gibbs. Better in the last quarter when the young guys faded.

Murphy. Great in first half, played forward a lot in 2nd.

Warnock. Will be no. 1 ruck all year. Beat Goldstein.

Wood. Good insurance based on tonight.

Walker. Turned it over a bit. Came off late in game.

Tuohy. Very good. 9-pt goal was a Crocker.

Cachia. Very good.  He's ahead of Cripps, but behind Curnow and McLean.

Curnow. One of our best. Gut-running knows no bounds.

Rowe. Think has potential at CHB, or even FB. Probably only in case that a KPD gets injured.

Watson. Has progressed. Definitely will be first-choice CHB. Could be the one player who makes a huge difference to our year.

McInnes. Has the odd brain fade but can't challenge commitment.
Would be in front of White as third tall defender.

Ellard. One of our best in second half. Will play games this year.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: ELIMINATION FINAL : Ninth Beats Ninthmond (Ha Ha Ha Ending)
Cut and paste this from Phil over at Punt Road End. Pure Gold!!!! ---


Tossed and turned all night.  The game playing in my head.  What if, what if. How could we let it happen again?  When is this *smile*ing nightmare going to end?

Ridiculous really given there is nothing I can do about it now, nothing I could do about it then.  I didn't play yesterday. I didn't fumble in the backline, miss any easy goals, let Bryce Gibbs run around unchecked. Why should I feel embarrassed or ashamed to face my Carlton supporting "mates"?  What could I have done?  They have got my money, thousands of dollars of it over the years, what more can I do?

I am actually glad the season is over now.  No more worrying every week about the upcoming game, about whether X beating Y will be good or bad for us.  No more expending emotional energy on something that provides a limited return on my emotional investment. Its actually a relief in some ways.  Control the controllables rather than worrying about something I have no control over, rather than placing my happiness in the hands of a bunch of footballers who couldn't give a rats about the way I feel every week.

Im looking forward to a football free six months...expend time and energy on things that give me enjoyment rather than the frustration that following this football club gives.

I think Phil might be done.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: ELIMINATION FINAL : Ninth Beats Ninthmond (Ha Ha Ha Ending)
Can't remember a better day at the footy in the past 13 years.
When Juddy kicked that goal in the last quarter I almost passed out!
Arrogant Richmond supporters celebrating before the game started like they were going to win the premiership.
I'm embarrassed that I started a three two weeks ago questioning the captaincy of Murphy. His past two weeks are his making. Incredibly tough and committed today.
Judd was amazing playing on one leg, taking the team on his shoulders to victory.
Warnock was the difference in the second half. Tore Maric a new one in the ruck contests, giving our guys first use.
Bryce Gibbs has finally decided he wants to be a contested footballer. His work around the stoppages was a class above anyone else on the field.
Henderson was gutsy, Jamison is Riewoldt's nemesis.
Eddie B found his mojo.
Thought it was the best game Waite played for the year - even better the first game against Essendon. His energy made others around him lift.
Duigan was incredible. Tough and hard to move. Serious leadership on show today.
Curnow and Robbo (except the brain fade) were so good. Just wish they could both learn to kick.
Simpson was gutsy and Garlett dangerous.
We did have a few guys down today but still managed to win.
The noise of the crowd and the flurry of goals in the second half,mother courageous acts. boy, what a day!