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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: pinot on
TDK tackles and takes marks and restricts opposition from winning quality clearances. He is Kreuzer on steroids except very durable. You can't play talents like that in other positions other than their preferred and most dynamic,

Implying that he must play #1 ruck because he does that and Pittonet doesn't?

Last week Pittonet had 20 touches and 11 clearances. That was better than TDKs best in both touches and clearances before this week....and is still better in clearances after this week......and this was after having surgery during the week as well.

For all this talk about contested marking between the 2 as well.
Pitto averages 0.83 CMs per game this year.
TDK averages 0.7 CMs per game this year.

People constantly overlook what Pitto has given us since returning fit this year.

I don't care who takes the #1 ruck role in the side, i just want it to be the best player available.....and i don't think its clear cut.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: AI and creativity.
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: LP on
The problem has never been AI, and the problem has never been technology, the problem is always and will always be human.

They are one and the same though.

Humans create AI. Humans are fallible. Thus AI is fallible.
In what way is the issue.
The smarter we think we are, the bigger te issues that AI can create.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: LP on
The folly of rucking BigH by default was exposed in the commentary when Brown started banging on about TDK going solo.

King rightly came in and described why solo rucking TDK is not sustainable season long, then there was a suggestion to ruck Charlie and King nearly fell out of his chair, and he describe why you don't ruck Charlie ever, and the same applies to overuse of BigH in the ruck, the risk is too high relative to the benefit.

The BigH to the ruck is an occasional pinch hit option, not a default tactic.

If our MC aren't smart enough to make use of Pitto and TDK sensibly, as required, we have an MC problem it's not the players.

I'm a bit over the hysteria and dangers of rucking players.

Around the ground, ball ups and throw ins, the rucks are coming at the ball together, starting 1m apart and closing that well before the ball arrives. Risk of injury, basically 0%.

The risk comes at centre bounces. Now we have 1 for every quarter and 1 for every goal. As an example, yesterday we had a total of 30. 15 goals to us, 11 to gold coast, 1 for each quarter.
If we only have 1 ruck, they are basically rucking for 80% of the time. So that would mean your #1 ruck is rucking for basically 24 of that 30, meaning your backup ruck is taking 6 centre bounces. Harry is in more marking contests than that where he can get hurt.
Perhaps we shouldn't play him as a forward in case he gets hurt too??

For those 6 centre bounces, i'd happily tell him not to jump, but rather line up side on (like wing-side of the circle) and come at the ball side on to eliminate any inury risks.

Now the reality is, that after a goal, or at the start of a quarter, your #1 ruck has plenty of time to make it in for the centre bounce and will attend more than the 80% of the centre bounces, making the risk to backup ruck even smaller.

Add to that the fact that our backup ruck will most likely come up against their backup ruck who also doesn't want to get hurt and will try a similar tactic to what i suggested.

So can we give up the chance of injury from backup rucks please?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by PaulP -
Quote from: LP on
The folly of rucking BigH by default was exposed in the commentary when Brown started banging on about TDK going solo.

King rightly came in and described why solo rucking TDK is not sustainable season long, then there was a suggestion to ruck Charlie and King nearly fell out of his chair, and he described why you don't ruck Charlie ever, and the same applies to the overuse of BigH in the ruck, the risk is too high relative to the benefit.

The BigH to the ruck is an occasional pinch hit option, not a default tactic.

If our MC aren't smart enough to make use of Pitto and TDK sensibly, as required, we have an MC problem it's not the players.

Personally, I though the return of Saad and the front and square work of Williams made a huge difference yesterday, and off the back of Cripps and Walsh being dominant things might have got better if Witts had zero respite.

Williams is not scared to get at the feet of the marking contests and it makes a huge difference. I also note once his confidence was up he got a few runs through the midfield and did well, his critics should take note.

I thought it's laughable that some have suggested GC were an easy kill, Miller, Rowell, Witts, Lukosius, King, Andrew, we destroyed the GC strengths, surely whoever suggested the easy kill was joking.

Pat, whilst I generally agree, I think GC were a little spent following two weeks in the Top End, plus they do struggle in Victoria. Daniel Hoyne has noted that there are definite improvements in GC's profile (in his much loved "core four" metric), but they are probably not at the point where they can be relied upon week in week out. I was listening to the ABC broadcast, and I'm just relaying what Malthouse, Adam Ramanauskas and the other callers were saying.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by Blue Moon -
Good  effort.  Small forward kicking goals, who would have thought. Our decision making going forward in the first half was poor.  Makes the opposition defence look good. If we could make good decisions and then deliver the ball then both Charlie and Harry would kick 100 goals. Only one bad decision coming out of defence but we got away with it. O.Hollands had a ripper of a game. Cincotta up forward was an interesting move. Didn't get a lot of the ball but probably shut down Gold Coast's attacking option coming out of defence. Williams was brought to the Club to be a defensive midfielder but kicking goals like Nick Duigan was a bonus. Big game next week.