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Size has SFA to do with it.
Look at all the inspirational captains over they years.
They have hall been tough, not dirty, but tough as nails.
Head over the footy, unwavering attack on the ball.

That's what we need.

My comments about Docherty's size was in relation to Elwood's comments about him being a smaller type ala Murphy, but in his  next post was lauding Hodge as a great Captain (which he is). I was merely pointing out that they are exactly the same height, therefore saying Docherty can't be a good Captain because of his height when he is the same as arguably the best Captain in the game is somewhat contradictory.

You're right though, the best Captain's are the tough ones, but I don't see Docherty being in any ways soft. He's got some chutzpah.

Docherty may be the same height but he isnt street tough enough like Hodge or able to give the cover that skillful smaller players need.....Voss was 183cm and even smaller but was like a Pit Bull out on the ground.
Hard not to be inspired when you see how Voss played the game....I like Docherty as a leader but his skillset as a leader is different to the Hodge/Voss skillset and we need some of the latter IMO....

My comments about Docherty's size was in relation to Elwood's comments about him being a smaller type ala Murphy, but in his  next post was lauding Hodge as a great Captain (which he is). I was merely pointing out that they are exactly the same height, therefore saying Docherty can't be a good Captain because of his height when he is the same as arguably the best Captain in the game is somewhat contradictory.

You're right though, the best Captain's are the tough ones, but I don't see Docherty being in any ways soft. He's got some chutzpah.

The thing is though, the player type you seek isn't one we currently have. Cripps might be more physically intimidating, but he's not that antagonising hard nut that you're describing.

Great Captains come in all different packages. One could argue that one of the most universally respected Captains in the comp is Bob Murphy, and he couldn't be more opposite to the Luke Hodge model of Captaincy. Bob has done an exceptional job at uniting a young and emerging team though.

Personally I see Docherty as an upgrade to Marc Murphy, and a good transitional leader while younger/different players emerge (as Mitchell was to the Hawks).

I'd rather not pigeonhole what a good Captain needs to look like, I would rather we invest in finding the person who best fits our Club and our players moving forward.

No text books required but plenty of examples; Skilton, Flower, Bartlett, Kelly, Bradley, Greg ...

According to the players and coaches who appointed him ... but what would they know?  

Had a look at the gallery photos for the team shoot this week. Interesting that either side of Murph (with Bolton in between) is Simmo and Doc, then Gibbs and Crippa next to those guys. Reckon Gibbs has been replaced by Doc as VC?

Had a look at the gallery photos for the team shoot this week. Interesting that either side of Murph (with Bolton in between) is Simmo and Doc, then Gibbs and Crippa next to those guys. Reckon Gibbs has been replaced by Doc as VC?

Wasn't Simpson vice captain last year?

That's right MBB.  I was thinking that we had two VCs but it was just Simpson.

It looks like just one change; Thomas in for Walks.  If that's the case, Thomas mustn't be cooked ...

Wasn't Simpson vice captain last year?

I'm pretty sure we had 2 VC's.

No, 100% sure it was just Simmo as VC. I recall vividly the video on CFC media where they announced Murph as Capt and Simmo as VC. Simmo gave a speech about how thrilled he was to lead the club with Murph. Its also in The Journey.