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2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Is there a thread for this, if not then it's overdue!
The Force Awakens!

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #1
I have no idea of team line ups, but if the Tiger players actually want Dimma as coach, they should get the job done - Richmond by 5 goals.

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #2
It will be interesting to see what effect Nthmond list changes have, ours are a little more less predictable.

Is the loss of Vickery and the injury to Hampson while retaining the aging Maric a negative, or is that covered by the recruitment of Nankervis. It's a pity our ruck division will enter this game undermanned, we might have held an advantage but I suspect it'll be 50/50.

Prestia is a good pickup as is Caddy, but over the last few years I think they come out square given the retirements, trades and the Yarran situation.

It may be a lot closer than supporters think, I can't split them, I know a few Nthmond fans who are less than confident. They think all the media hype is a bit too bullish off the back of the obvious Dimma boosters.
The Force Awakens!

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #3
I have no idea of team line ups, but if the Tiger players actually want Dimma as coach, they should get the job done - Richmond by 5 goals.

I think it will take more than the players wanting Dimma as coach.  The mighty Blues by a goal, kicked after the siren by ... SOJ :)
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #4
I think it will take more than the players wanting Dimma as coach.  The mighty Blues by a goal, kicked after the siren by ... SOJ :)

I certainly like the sound of that. I guess we'll know soon enough.

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #5
My thoughts are we should win.
Go Blues
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #6
Dear Mr Bolton,
I will be attending this game with my son. It is not often we can get to games due to living interstate. So as you can imagine with the cost of flight, tickets, accommodation etc the weekend will be close to $1000 for us.
A lot for a game of footy.
Previous matches I have taken my lad to players have appeared lack lusted and the game plan was in tatters.
My son's support has wavered over the last 10 years but we are all still members.

All I ask is that the Carlton Football Club comes to play.
EACH and EVERY player wears the jumper with pride and goes when it is their turn to go NOT pick and choose.

I ask that the TEAM plays as a TEAM and shows structure.
The coaches have a Plan A and a Plan B.

I ask that the Forward line (which used to be Carlton's strength) shows signs that it is A forward line. Goals win games.

Please get the boys to come out and play from the start and leave nothing on the park at the end.

Thanking you advance and wish you a very successful year.
Go Blues
BluePhantom

2024... Moir of the same to come

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #7
It will be interesting to see what effect Nthmond list changes have, ours are a little more less predictable.

Is the loss of Vickery and the injury to Hampson while retaining the aging Maric a negative, or is that covered by the recruitment of Nankervis. It's a pity our ruck division will enter this game undermanned, we might have held an advantage but I suspect it'll be 50/50.

Prestia is a good pickup as is Caddy, but over the last few years I think they come out square given the retirements, trades and the Yarran situation.

It may be a lot closer than supporters think, I can't split them, I know a few Nthmond fans who are less than confident. They think all the media hype is a bit too bullish off the back of the obvious Dimma boosters.

I spotted Kreuzer at the local woolworths twice in the last month.  He had a trolley full of fruit and vegetables on both occasions, and was walking around with shorts a t-shirt, and thongs on.  He looked like he had been working fairly hard by the callouses on his feet over this pre season which combined with his Freo game form(in which I thought he had a particularly good match against Sandilands considering hes unlikely to beat him) speaks for where he is at and that is in rip snorting condition.

I think he will do really well this season, and as much as we consider him a "lone hand" he has adequate support from Rowe, and Casboult.  We might still have the upper hand in this ruck contest after all provided he stays relatively fit and injury free (no one is ever 100%).

The major positives from my perspective is that he had no obvious bracing on which means not only is he getting through matches fairly unscathed the recovery he is doing is allowing him to move around freely.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #8
I spotted Kreuzer at the local woolworths twice in the last month.  He had a trolley full of fruit and vegetables on both occasions, and was walking around with shorts a t-shirt, and thongs on.  He looked like he had been working fairly hard by the callouses on his feet over this pre season which combined with his Freo game form(in which I thought he had a particularly good match against Sandilands considering hes unlikely to beat him) speaks for where he is at and that is in rip snorting condition.

I think he will do really well this season, and as much as we consider him a "lone hand" he has adequate support from Rowe, and Casboult.  We might still have the upper hand in this ruck contest after all provided he stays relatively fit and injury free (no one is ever 100%).

The major positives from my perspective is that he had no obvious bracing on which means not only is he getting through matches fairly unscathed the recovery he is doing is allowing him to move around freely.
Murph stated recently in an interview that MK is in the best condition he has ever seen him in.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #9
I spotted Kreuzer at the local woolworths twice in the last month.  He had a trolley full of fruit and vegetables on both occasions, and was walking around with shorts a t-shirt, and thongs on.  He looked like he had been working fairly hard by the callouses on his feet over this pre season which combined with his Freo game form(in which I thought he had a particularly good match against Sandilands considering hes unlikely to beat him) speaks for where he is at and that is in rip snorting condition.

I think he will do really well this season, and as much as we consider him a "lone hand" he has adequate support from Rowe, and Casboult.  We might still have the upper hand in this ruck contest after all provided he stays relatively fit and injury free (no one is ever 100%).

The major positives from my perspective is that he had no obvious bracing on which means not only is he getting through matches fairly unscathed the recovery he is doing is allowing him to move around freely.

Good spotting Thry!

I reckon Matthew Kreuzer is in for a big year.  His JLT form was good and I thought he beat Sandilands quite comprehensively.  Yes, Sandilands won more hitouts but they were rarely to advantage and Kreuzer was much more effective around the ground.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #10
Just heard Choco Williams on SEN and he says that in the Richmond inner sanctum, they work themselves up into a frenzy this week with heaps of 'what if they do this' 'I hope this doesn't happen' etc throwing doubt into their own minds.  He says it's laughable......but it's there!!!  Good for us!

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #11
I reckon this game is 50/50... Seriously, this mob are kidding themselves if they reckon they're better than us.  After Dusty blows up at half time Cripps will take over.

I'm not a betting man but if the line stays at 40 .5 points I'm getting on.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #12
^
I'd say we are in with a serious show if we turn up to play.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #13
I reckon this game is 50/50... Seriously, this mob are kidding themselves if they reckon they're better than us.  After Dusty blows up at half time Cripps will take over.

I'm not a betting man but if the line stays at 40 .5 points I'm getting on.

Martin will play forward IMO because they know we have no one to play on him...Im less bullish on Kruezer than others...I thought Sandilands won the ruck easily but our man was more value around the ground.
Cripps needs to be BOG and lead us to victory....50/50 game...the Tigers have their stars but tail off badly IMO and have their fair share of spuds too...
I see Rance as the major stumbling block...intercept marking specialists love us because we bomb the ball most times and never hit up many targets, need to to change that vs the Tigers and keep Rance out of the
game and keep the ball in our forward 50 more.
Tigers will start favourites but they are ordinary IMO and we have a chance...

Re: 2017 Rnd 1: Carlton vs Richmond - Pre-Game

Reply #14
Martin will play forward IMO because they know we have no one to play on him...Im less bullish on Kruezer than others...I thought Sandilands won the ruck easily but our man was more value around the ground.
Cripps needs to be BOG and lead us to victory....50/50 game...the Tigers have their stars but tail off badly IMO and have their fair share of spuds too...
I see Rance as the major stumbling block...intercept marking specialists love us because we bomb the ball most times and never hit up many targets, need to to change that vs the Tigers and keep Rance out of the
game and keep the ball in our forward 50 more.
Tigers will start favourites but they are ordinary IMO and we have a chance...

Agree, we need to be fierce in our F50 and try to create some ground level opportunities, ESP if Pickett​ plays.
Reality always wins in the end.