saw me first 1969 missed 11-12 since
I'll say today after watching Dawks 3 peat they are a great
side but if the Dominator was in that 50/50 1st qtr Cripps v Isaac Smith the laughing Hyena would be waking up now at the Epworth….sorry footy was tougher back than and I smith would be waking with the stars….West coast played like pretty Private School footballers….got the wrong result but gee they were nice guys eh?
crap i hope our baggers don't that way!!!
I must say that I was genuinely surprised by the lack of intensity from some of the key eagle boys when the game reached the point of no guts no glory. Nicnat, Priddis, Hurn, the forward line.....
The Hawks were vulnerable today and the Eagles played right into their hands.
Said the same thing yesterday to my mates was we watching. There was one incident where a WC players helped Hodge off up off the ground after a collision near the boundary line. I would have "accidentally" tripped over him and dropped my knee into his throat to the give the sniping kent a taste of his own medicine. Proof again that nice guys don't win.
Said the same thing yesterday to my mates was we watching. There was one incident where a WC players helped Hodge off up off the ground after a collision near the boundary line. I would have "accidentally" tripped over him and dropped my knee into his throat to the give the sniping kent a taste of his own medicine. Proof again that nice guys don't win.
I was gobsmacked when i saw that and although the eagles chances at the time were slim, that act took it all the way to 0% chance of winning.
Yes.....you could extrapolate here
....afl is becoming too nice and predictable. ...the biff could have been used.in the previous days to unstable hawthorn ...
Just like the Tigers did to us in 73...
I don't know if Hawthorn can do it again, good as they are. They have a lot of self belief: it helps them hugely in games like yesterday. But they really haven't had many injury worries at all in any of their successes.
This year Carlton, Brisbane and Gold Coast were totally destroyed by injuries. We barely had enough players to play the final round, for example. West Coast lost most of their taller defenders before the season even started, which makes their success even more remarkable. Sydney were hot badly before the finals and Freo had their best defender (McPharlin) out and others struggling (Fyffe was playing with a broken leg, for God's sake!).
Did Hawthorn have these problems? No. Come September they had their key players fit and available, with very few unavailable players on their list.
How do Hawthorn do without Hodge and co? They often can manage without one of their guns for short periods, but when they miss more than that, they struggle.
Hawthorn have held up remarkably well. But will they in 2016? I hope not. Even so, their list will start to lose players, through age if nothing else.
One of the questions I would ask is how have they managed to keep their players on the field and relatively intact? It does say something about their fitness and medical staff. There also is a fair bit of luck involved. Will that last forever? Had Hawthorn limped into the finals like Sydney did with half a dozen champions out or crippled, then they would have made a very quick exit.
So, what can we do about it? The first thing to do is to learn from hawthorn's game plan and fanaticism. We then plan a team that is designed to beat them. But unless we can replicate their ability to stay on the park we are wasting our time.
I truly think that some other teams will get Hawthorn in 2016 because I cannot see them holding their team together physically. Brisbane went into the finals with a team of crocks looking for their 4th in a row. it ended very badly.
Here ended the lesson.
76, 78, 79, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 91.
76, 78, 79, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 91.
I managed most of those! I started in 1973. What a shocker! We finished with 14 fit players and still scared the crap out of them.
1987 I missed. I was in Europe for the whole season. I saw the game in an Aussie Club in London.
In some ways 1987 makes my point for me (from my previous sermon): Hawthorn went into the GF without a key player, Dunstall, and fell in a hole. The longer the game went, the less their team functioned. That was a good day!
1973 also makes a point for me. We lost a couple of very important smalls before the GF and ended up giving Vinnie Catoggio his debut. We lost about 90 possessions through those injuries, and couldn't manage when Richmond took out our 'brain' (Nicholls). They then broke Southby's jaw, Hall's cheekbone and gave concussion to a couple of others.
1988: injuries to key players killed us. We did a fantastic job to do as well as we did. But we couldn't get our best on the field in the last half of the season.
Does that sound familiar? Let's see Hawthorn win with those problems. It isn't going to happen!
I've only seen three Grand Finals live.
The first was 1968, my dad let me camp overnight at Princes Park to buy tickets and I was 6 rows from the fence at the Punt Road end with my eldest sister.
Wes Lofts belted Geoff Blethyn in the first 10 minutes without even giving away a free kick and Blethyn wasn't much good for the rest of the day even though he kicked a few goals.
Nicholls played a huge game in the ruck and we won by less than a kick for our first flag in 23 years, we wasted a lot of chances and should have won by more but I didn't care at the time.
The next was in 1987, stinking hot and I planned to drink lemonade and enjoy the win, we had a stellar team and I was very confident.
In the first 10 minutes Dominator took out Tuck, Harry Madden fixed up Dipper and Peter Dean frog marched Russell Morris and sat him in the first row of the crowd, all this after Johnno did a head count at the first bounce and won us a free kick for Hawthorn having too many players in the square.
To say we were switched on that day would be a massive understatement.
Braddles and Johnno ran Hawthorn ragged and kicked 5 between them and Harry dominated in the ruck.
They sold out of lemonade before quarter time and I wound up blind drunk on the top deck of a double decker bus doing laps of Lygon Street, after which I passed out on the half forward flank in front of the Gardiner Stand.
In between those two I went to the 1980 Collingwood/Richmond Grand Final, a mate of mine was an old South Melbourne supporter and Sydney was playing in the reserves Grannie and he asked me to go with him.
My mate told me to watch one of the young Sydney players in the twos, he said he was a ripper.
It was David Rhys-Jones.
In the big game Stan Magro chased Bartlett around for most of the day trying to whack him but couldn't catch him and KB kicked 7, we left just after half time and went to the pub but it was OK seeing Collingwood get touched up, even if it was by Richmond.
I had a ticket in 1995 but I knew we'd win and gave it to my youngest sister who'd never seen us win a flag live, at the time I assumed there'd be more to follow.
I think I'll be waiting a while until I get the chance again and I won't be giving the ticket away. ;)
79, 81,82,86,87,93,95,97,98,99,00, - geez, it's 15 years since I've been to a GF!
79, 81,82,86,87,93,95,97,98,99,00, - geez, it's 15 years since I've been to a GF!
Terrible way to finish off there jofo ;)
I've seen 14 GFs. 2 we won. The 1970 and 1987.
Both great games but 1970 was the best ever for me.
One of my good mates, Bert Thornley was playing that day. Fantastic game.
Both great games but 1970 was the best ever for me.
One of my good mates, Bert Thornley was playing that day. Fantastic game.
Jesaulenko..........you beauty!!!!
I've seen 14 GFs. 2 we won. The 1970 and 1987.
Both great games but 1970 was the best ever for me.
One of my good mates, Bert Thornley was playing that day. Fantastic game.
I went to the Preliminary Final that year where we pumped St.Kilda by 62pts. Jackson got 6, Jezza got 4.7, Perc 4 as well. We had 307 possession that day, very high for that era, 250 of them kicks.
Seen 2001-2005 then 2007-2014. Didn't go this year and happy to have made that choice! ;D
Yesterday's GF was the softest i.e. most bruise-free of any GF I can remember.
Yesterday's GF was the softest i.e. most bruise-free of any GF I can remember.
It was a soft brand of footy and not really entertaining at all. Many spectators would have been really frustrated by what they saw, and that wasn't a vision of the best 2 sides in the league. West Coast didn't even look like a top 8 side.
93, 95, 99, 12, 13 14, 15
68, 69, 71, 87, 93.
68, 69, 71, 87, 93.
You're old too...lol!
I've never been to one and odds are I never will.
I'm not interested in a grand final Carlton are not playing in and I'll bet the next time we get in the corporates will make it impossible for average Joe to get a ticket.
Yesterday's GF was the softest i.e. most bruise-free of any GF I can remember.
The last 3 have been shight. The last two were bruise free smashings and the one before that was a terrible spectacle.
The rugby last night shat all over the last three grand finals.
The last 3 have been shight. The last two were bruise free smashings and the one before that was a terrible spectacle.
The rugby last night shat all over the last three grand finals.
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The last 3 have been shight. The last two were bruise free smashings and the one before that was a terrible spectacle.
The rugby last night shat all over the last three grand finals.
True - But any GF that's a contest to the end is exciting.
Unfortunately those bloody Hawks are just too good and they take the contest out very early on. Until there is a real challenger to them expect more boring, bruise free GFs to come.
The rugby last night was so exciting and so raw with emotion. The difference between their game and ours, is the AFL has changed and diluted our brand to a point where the umpires have as big a say in the result as the players!
Their game is not over umpired and the rules are pretty black and white. Less frustrating for players and fans and makes for a much better spectacle for the showcase game.
The last 3 have been shight. The last two were bruise free smashings and the one before that was a terrible spectacle.
The rugby last night shat all over the last three grand finals.
They have.2013 was an all time shocker. If Freo hadn't crapped their pants they'd have won that. They only lost by a little over 2 goals. That's one that got away.
RL GF was an outstanding spectacle.
That being said, if we were Hawthorn fans, there would be no better way to enjoy the grand final.
1995, we had pretty much ended Geelong's hopes by half time, and the second half was enjoying a relatively easy win.
It would have been crap for the neutrals, but I enjoyed it immensely!
I think 1979 was my favourite: there were times in that game where we were very ordinary, but when it counted we were damned good.
The Harmes Controversy just crowned the cake, but we should have got another goal for Marcou being pushing in the back anyway.
I have never felt as comfortable as in 1995: we smashed them early, as Thry noted. The only thing that worried me was that we could have taken the foot off the accelerator. That would have been a mistake and I NEVER count my chickens until Kentucky have good them and served them up.
The three things that upset me about '95;
We wasted such a good year flogging a minnow club when we could have flogged somebody decent like the scum or filth etc
We didn't get Billy Brainless properly for his gutless act after the half time siren... what a deadest cat.
We took the foot off the gas and didn't win by 100 points.
You're old too...lol!
Another 'mature' supporter here - been to a few....
68 69 70 71 72 73 74 76 79 81 82 86 87 91 95
been a bit lean for the past 20 years - not many reasons to go hunting for a ticket......
All of the CFC from 69 and few non-CFC for me.
69, 70, 72, 73, 77 (replay), 79, 81, 82, 83, 86, 87, 93, 95, 99.
"been a bit lean for the past 20 years - not many reasons to go hunting for a ticket......" X 2
I have seen every Grand Final Carlton has been in since 1962
62,68,69,70,72,73 ,79,81,82,86,87,93,95,99,
8 wins :) 6 losses >:(
I also went to the 1974 grandfinal and 1988 grand final.
I am extremely fortunate to see so may premierships :)