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In terms of weaknesses, he does not have too many. He is not an athletic beast nor is he very quick off the mark. He disguises his lack of speed because he can anticipate situations before they happen, however Weitering is slower than other defenders in the draft crop.

This means for AFL level, he might struggle against the faster, more athletically gifted forwards such as Cam McCarthy or Lance Franklin, but would be at home against the stronger, brute forwards.

Carlton fans should not worry about his lack of speed, because the way he sets up and leads the back six as a unit. He is likely to be the kind of player than will listen intently and as he gains more confidence with his teammates, not be afraid to share his views on how to improve the side defensively.

Novelty value? 

The same McKay that is only a month younger than Weitering and taken the same draft?
He requires games more than Weitering does?

 

In terms of weaknesses, he does not have too many. He is not an athletic beast nor is he very quick off the mark. He disguises his lack of speed because he can anticipate situations before they happen, however Weitering is slower than other defenders in the draft crop.

This means for AFL level, he might struggle against the faster, more athletically gifted forwards such as Cam McCarthy or Lance Franklin, but would be at home against the stronger, brute forwards.

Carlton fans should not worry about his lack of speed, because the way he sets up and leads the back six as a unit. He is likely to be the kind of player than will listen intently and as he gains more confidence with his teammates, not be afraid to share his views on how to improve the side defensively.

What is relevant is saying you would rather drop weitering (who desperately needs games as much as anyone) to get games into another player, regardless of which player.

I like Harry and think he could be great, but weirering so far is both a more effective forward and defender

I thought Ed's ball use was pretty good, and his work in the defensive 50 was excellent.  He will be one of the first players picked for some time to come.

Interestingly, Simmo was picking up a taller opponent on many occasions.

O'Brien had a night to forget (perfectly understandable) and Jones made some errors that, while excusable in a novice defender, could cost us a game during the real season.

McKay has played 2 games, so yes, Weitering is more effective as a forward thus far.
However, based on potential, McKay has a higher ceiling up forward and i want to see how close he can get to it.

Play Weitering in front of Casboult if you wish, but McKay needs games more than anyone.
If he isn't up to it, we need to draft someone who is.
We KNOW weitering can play in defense, and he will, but as a forward he shouldn't get priority

Your logic is flawed, Weitering is the same age and requires games every bit as much as Harry does. The fact he is further  in front (and by a fair way) suggests that you need to keep playing him or he risks falling back.

Why is it flawed? Because i prefer Harry to play forward?

I've already suggested that if the club wanted to play Weitering forward instead of Casboult, i'd be more in favour of it than if it was instead of McKay.

So because Weitering (20) is young he gets games and pushes another player out of the side who might be a couple years older like Marchbank (21), Plowman (23).

So does that mean that we have to play Dow and O'Brien in place of Murphy?
Or perhaps we should play Williamson instead of Simpson?

Of course that is silly because the older players offer the team more.
Oh wait.
 

Why is Weitering above the law?

However, based on potential, McKay has a higher ceiling up forward and i want to see how close he can get to it.

Why do you keep saying he's bad for balance?
He is a highly talented kid.
Sounds like you want to make a name for yourself as the one that said it first.
Good luck with that, he can play

That isn't based in fact, it's your opinion.

Weitering has kicked far bigger bags of goals as a junior than McKay, I watched Weitering as a U16 kick 15 goals in a game, and given the opposition was questionable, not his opponent but the team on the whole, I went to watch him playing a senior AGS game and kick 6 playing as the CHB in a game surrounded by other AFL draftees!

Even so, he should be our long term KPD, he is clearly our Harry Taylor type and players like Marchbank and Plowman can set up around him for the next decade.

Not that I'm anti-McKay, but I see him as a ruck forward option within just a few years.