Carlton Supporters Club

This club doesn't lack ability. They lack a decent coaching structure from a bloke who is way past it as well as lacking anything close to any "want".

What do you mean hand back the keys? Are advocating leaving the AFL!?!?

I meant Carlton is more Melbournesque than I think many people wanted to admit and it's been that way for awhile now. Like a drug addict or alcoholic you sometimes have to admit where you're at before you can take a step forward and that's where this club is at right now. The culture is rotten and we have to clean it up from the board level down. Sacking Malthouse and will simply shuffle the chairs about - ask yourself this aside from making people feel momentarily better, what would it achieve? I doubt it's the coach.

Rattan was the only one in the last 10-12 years that seemed to get any spirit going in the group but let's not kid ourselves there were problems then. Underlying problems that whilst kept at bay for year or two ultimately led to his demise.

We have no patience and our list and culture I think are poor. We have failed repeatedly at the draft and with inward looking management we are not prepared to back a strategy and really build a club. If you were building a club from scratch today what would you do? How would you got about it? That's really where Carlton is at.

There's ability in every side, we had a sprinkling of top players when we were winning wooden spoons.
Today's team was one of the weakest Carlton sides I can remember, if you can't see that well..........

I meant Carlton is more Melbournesque than I think many people wanted to admit and it's been that way for awhile now. Like a drug addict or alcoholic you sometimes have to admit where you're at before you can take a step forward and that's where this club is at right now. The culture is rotten and we have to clean it up from the board level down. Sacking Malthouse and will simply shuffle the chairs about - ask yourself this aside from making people feel momentarily better, what would it achieve? I doubt it's the coach.

I should've put a  at the end.

You right though, we need a big BIG plan to get back to at least on par with Richmond  let alone the upper echelon of the ladder

Proving you don't know much

The players have spoken.....and they didn't need to use words.

I'm not angry, I got to see Clem Smith play again plus other newbies Buckley, Graham, Jacksch, Whiley, Boekhorst etc.

I thought they spoke last week?
Someone isn't listening?

Injuries only count in 2012.

Whatever gets you through the night laj.
We've won two elimination finals in 14 years, against Essendon and Richmond, that's where we are as a club.