Obviously that could be one possibility. I wonder though how high it would be on a new governments list of priorities, especially if that government is led by a bloke called Bill? ???
You never know what is going to happen, just ask the EU?
You never know what is going to happen, just ask the EU?
What a cock-up! A classic case of MPs, apart from a minority, being way out of touch with the people they are supposed to represent.
What a cock-up! A classic case of MPs, apart from a minority, being way out of touch with the people they are supposed to represent.
The people voting for this don't realise that Scotland is next!
The people voting for this don't realise that Scotland is next!
From what I've been reading I don't think most of them would be too bothered. Could also re-ignite a serious push for Irish re-unification, Sinn Fein are already making noises. There will be a major problem to be resolved there due to the border between north and south if one country is in the EU and the other is not.
Apologies this is way off topic now!
Apologies this is way off topic now!
We'll give it its own thread ;)
The people voting for this don't realise that Scotland is next!
The majority of Scots voted to remain. Perhaps Scotland will secede from the Union and apply to join the EU ???
I suspect other countries will be thinking seriously about their membership of the EU.
British PM David Cameron has resigned.
From what I've been reading I don't think most of them would be too bothered. Could also re-ignite a serious push for Irish re-unification, Sinn Fein are already making noises. There will be a major problem to be resolved there due to the border between north and south if one country is in the EU and the other is not.
Apologies this is way off topic now!
Being Northern Irish and Irish mate, I can guarantee you that the North won't be part of a United Ireland for a while yet. Catholics are out-breeding Protestants, that's a fact. In other words, once it gets way past 50/50, it'll be game on, assuming the majority want it to happen. And then, you need to consider if the south even wants the north. Not guaranteed at all. Remember that generations have acclimatised to a separation. Never mind The threat of sectarian violence by idiot unionists in the South if there was a united Ireland. Very real, scary possibility. One of the reason I left the place - politics are utterly fuc&ed.
Being Northern Irish and Irish mate, I can guarantee you that the North won't be part of a United Ireland for a while yet. Catholics are out-breeding Protestants, that's a fact. In other words, once it gets way past 50/50, it'll be game on, assuming the majority want it to happen. And then, you need to consider if the south even wants the north. Not guaranteed at all. Remember that generations have acclimatised to a separation. Never mind The threat of sectarian violence by idiot unionists in the South if there was a united Ireland. Very real, scary possibility. One of the reason I left the place - politics are utterly fuc&ed.
And as for Sinn Fein and that utter bastar$ Gery Adams. Fuc$ em. Terrorist politic front. The guy has blood on his hands and the only reason he isn't dead and now in Southern Ireland politics is because of a deal made for the Northern Ireland peace process. He is not well loved by half of the north I can assure you. Wasted decades of prosperity at the hands of him and Ian Paisley. Idiots both.
Not good news for Australia IMO, the sterling will be devalued and I reckon share prices will keep falling and world economies get shaky when this stuff happens....could lead to a recession in the UK and problems for us in terms of a GFC again...
The majority of Scots voted to remain. Perhaps Scotland will secede from the Union and apply to join the EU ???
I suspect other countries will be thinking seriously about their membership of the EU.
I'm not at all against the Poms leaving but the people voting for it were voting on immigration but have forgot about the economic implications . Long term it may work out but If the scots leave the UK watch the money run out of the U.K. .
It will be a blood bath.
I'm not at all against the Poms leaving but the people voting for it were voting on immigration but have forgot about the economic implications . Long term it may work out but If the scots leave the UK watch the money run out of the U.K. .
It will be a blood bath.
Yes, this takes the lid off some very serious simmering tensions in Britain and the situation could become very unstable. A worrying time for sure.
.........and I fly out for London today!!
I'm guessing that buyer's remorse will be the order of the day over there. The Leave camp is already walking away from core promises such as a promise emblazoned on a campaign bus that the annual money paid to the EU would be paid into the National Health Service. After the vote concluded, Google was bombarded with searches in England on 'What is the EU?' Truth is stranger than fiction.
But the polls said.....
... it was too close to call.
Maybe US voters will learn a valuable lesson about the consequences of dummy-spitting. Then again, that would require some understanding of the world outside their borders.
But the polls said.....
Polls had labour winning the last general election too.
Most of the polls, the talking heads, the cream of the British elite thought remain would win the day. Camaron and his cronies tried a scare campaign, while only leave had a coherent reason and narrative of sorts, no matter how unsavoury. With years of being treated like fools, seeing living standards stagnate, a financial services industry that has become a gigantic parasite enjoying huge bailouts and an establishment that has slashed public services, should we be surprised that so many people sought to give the establishment a bloody nose?
Now they and we all live with the consequences.
Nothing ever shrank to greatness. You grow or you decay.
Polls had labour winning the last general election too.
Most of the polls, the talking heads, the cream of the British elite thought remain would win the day. Camaron and his cronies tried a scare campaign, while only leave had a coherent reason and narrative of sorts, no matter how unsavoury. With years of being treated like fools, seeing living standards stagnate, a financial services industry that has become a gigantic parasite enjoying huge bailouts and an establishment that has slashed public services, should we be surprised that so many people sought to give the establishment a bloody nose?
Now they and we all live with the consequences.
Spot on. To use a favourite word of the British elite, this is without doubt a case of "revenge of the oiks".
Poor old Boris too - if he gets the PM gig he going to become very acquainted with what it's like to be under pressure - not that I would have too much sympathy for him. It seems to me that he's been pretty much playing games so far. Now it gets real.
Also shows how far out of touch with every day folk and their fears and aspirations the Labour Party there had become.
Very valuable lessons to be learned for sure.
Interesting article from the Irish Times. Worth a read from across the Irish Sea.
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-england-unprepared-for-how-deeply-divided-it-is-1.2698974
Interesting article from the Irish Times. Worth a read from across the Irish Sea.
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-england-unprepared-for-how-deeply-divided-it-is-1.2698974
Brilliant article Woody, thanks for posting that. I loved the line "Prime minister-in-waiting Boris Johnson is merely the winner of a Winston Churchill impersonation contest." :))
Hang on, it's true!
Brilliant article Woody, thanks for posting that. I loved the line "Prime minister-in-waiting Boris Johnson is merely the winner of a Winston Churchill impersonation contest." :))
Hang on, it's true!
I suspect that Boris was hoping for a "remain" outcome and is now having second thoughts about the top job. Being PM during a sh1tstorm may not be a good career move.
Polls had labour winning the last general election too.
Most of the polls, the talking heads, the cream of the British elite thought remain would win the day. Camaron and his cronies tried a scare campaign, while only leave had a coherent reason and narrative of sorts, no matter how unsavoury. With years of being treated like fools, seeing living standards stagnate, a financial services industry that has become a gigantic parasite enjoying huge bailouts and an establishment that has slashed public services, should we be surprised that so many people sought to give the establishment a bloody nose?
Now they and we all live with the consequences.
If one of the fall outs is a deep recession and high unemployment, yes, I think we can be surprised.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2016/jun/24ided-britain-brexit-money-class-inequality-westminster (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2016/jun/24ided-britain-brexit-money-class-inequality-westminster)
I think this article by John Harris in the Guardian covers it off pretty well too.
Jen gives her reasons for voting "Out"
[flash=400,400]https://www.youtube.com/v/nZO9JGSScMQ[/flash]
Forget about expert analyses, this clip tells you everything you need to know about what just happened:
[flash=200,200]https://youtu.be/gPr-8jsBODQ[/flash]
Jen gives her reasons for voting "Out"
[flash=400,400]https://www.youtube.com/v/nZO9JGSScMQ[/flash]
English Collingwood supporter......hope the borders are shut so she cant escape....
Forget about expert analyses, this clip tells you everything you need to know about what just happened:
[flash]http://=200,200]https://youtu.be/gPr-8jsBODQ[/flash]
Can you fix Mav? Not working for me.
English Collingwood supporter......hope the borders are shut so she cant escape....
I think that's a bit of an act...goggle youtube Jen and Brad Holmes talking about a pizza ;D
They're good ;)
Can you fix Mav? Not working for me.
Looks right to me. Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPr-8jsBODQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPr-8jsBODQ)
Looks right to me. Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPr-8jsBODQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPr-8jsBODQ)
Thanks.
https://youtu.be/EkpS-yBj7gY
BREXIT explained, 26 years ago.
Courtesy of an article in the Age.