http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-has-added-victorian-human-rights-commissioner-kate-jenkins-to-its-board/story-fni5f5nx-1227574695257
Finally some alternative thinking and professionalism
I like this. Move in the right direction.
Agree, progressive thinking. More small steps in the right direction it seems.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-has-added-victorian-human-rights-commissioner-kate-jenkins-to-its-board/story-fndv8f7j-1227574695257
For those that don't have access through the original link.
I don't care if she is a man or a woman as long as she is good at what she does on the board.
I thought we were reducing the number of board members?
I thought we were reducing the number of board members?
Germinder and Fahour not going around again and not being replaced, which takes it from 10 to 8 but this of board members to be ratified by vote on December 22, which I assume is an EGM...or is it the AGM?
I think the EGM is bad and the AGM is normal.
Depending on where you stand of course. ;)
Not necessarily...it's a necessity if you want to change something like this outside of an AGM.
An EGM is harmless Carrots.
Like you. 8)
Germinder and Fahour not going around again and not being replaced, which takes it from 10 to 8 but this of board members to be ratified by vote on December 22, which I assume is an EGM...or is it the AGM?
Thanks Tribey, so just to be clear, we'll end up witha board of 9, reduced from 10, subject to approval?
Thanks Tribey, so just to be clear, we'll end up witha board of 9, reduced from 10, subject to approval?
It will be a board of 8 if the change is approved at the AGM. Raphael Geminder and Ahmed Fahour are retiring and Greg Lee retired to provide a place for Kate Jenkins.
I don't know anything about Kate Jenkins but she has an impressive CV, as do our other board members. Does she bring any particular relevant experience or expertise? I am assuming that she is not aligned with the board factions, and that has to be a good thing.
I like this. Move in the right direction.
Agree, good stuff.
It will be a board of 8 if the change is approved at the AGM. Raphael Geminder and Ahmed Fahour are retiring and Greg Lee retired to provide a place for Kate Jenkins.
I don't know anything about Kate Jenkins but she has an impressive CV, as do our other board members. Does she bring any particular relevant experience or expertise? I am assuming that she is not aligned with the board factions, and that has to be a good thing.
Thanks DJC, I just got an email from The Judge outlining the changes. Sounds like we are changing as a club - hopefully it all works out well.
Thanks DJC, I just got an email from The Judge outlining the changes. Sounds like we are changing as a club - hopefully it all works out well.
Are you on his contact list too Cookie? We must both be special people ;)
As long as it's change for the better . . .
great appointment!
as a human right commissioner, she would understand and sympathize the pain and suffering of tens of thousands of Victorians at the hands of the board.
Her job is to end that suffering and assist in bringing joy that only a long overdue 17th premiership can bring
What years did she play for us? :D
Kate Jenkins @Kate_Jenkins_ 1h1 hour ago
Kate Jenkins Retweeted Carlton FC
What an honour! Looking forward to working with @CarltonFC board members and supporters. Go blues!
https://twitter.com/search?q=kate+jenkins&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch
Hope she does a good job. It isn't a bad thing having a woman on the board. Gives everyone a female perspective and a new opinion. As long as she can help the club move forward. ;)
Cant be any worse than some of the numpties past, present and leaving ie Fahour....the latter was going to be Prez, this and that and didnt end up doing much apart from sacking a lot of postal workers....
Welcome Kate and hope you have a helmet and flak jacket because there are some tough years ahead and the navy blue natives can get very restless...
Germinder and Fahour not going around again and not being replaced, which takes it from 10 to 8 but this of board members to be ratified by vote on December 22, which I assume is an EGM...or is it the AGM?
AGM = Annual General Meeting is normal, hence Annual.
EGM = Extraordinary General Meeting, which by definition is not normal.
Some new blood, with fresh ideas. Starting up a womens team/league could yield us more members too.
Are you on his contact list too Cookie? We must both be special people ;)
As long as it's change for the better . . .
It appears that I am on it DJC- don't know what we did to earn that honour! :D
Joking aside though, I am starting to feel more positive about our club's future.
https://twitter.com/search?q=kate+jenkins&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Esearch
Hope she does a good job. It isn't a bad thing having a woman on the board. Gives everyone a female perspective and a new opinion. As long as she can help the club move forward. ;)
J Pratt not a woman? ;D
We also had a female board member in Lauraine Diggins a few years ago.
J Pratt not a woman? ;D
She is a woman ??? I need to go to spec savers. ;D
The bit of hoped for turnover in the board has started sooner than I anticipated. A new face will be a good thing, and will provide a chance for the club to broaden out its wings a little and build something new.
Its easy to forget, but most of what a board does is only sensibly judged in a few years time. Any organisation is a slow learner and it can take years to turn things around.
Personally the gender of our newest board member is utterly irrelevant and seems to be mostly of interest to the barrow pushers. Just want each board member to be filthy about losing, committed to winning and able to keep their ego in check and work with the rest of the board effectively.
Oh and not leak to the media- a habit for which the club has paid a high price for over the years.
What a nonsensical board appointment.
What does Kate Jenkins Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commissioner, know about football?!!
The powers that be at Carlton have now moved 180 degrees, from appointments based on inherited wealth, to those driven by political correctness.
Such decisions can only serve to further alienate die hard Carlton supporters.
Pathetic decision.
What a nonsensical board appointment.
What does Kate Jenkins Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commissioner, know about football?!!
The powers that be at Carlton have now moved 180 degrees, from appointments based on inherited wealth, to those driven by political correctness.
Such decisions can only serve to further alienate die hard Carlton supporters.
Pathetic decision.
Why wouldn't she know anything about football?
She'd know about as much as Zac Fried and Ahmed Fahour knew :( :(
I reckon this will be a great appointment - so many other threads on here bleat about our club having no culture, and we can't move forward until the board is straightened out etc etc. Well guess what, the old way of appointing ex-footballers turned property developers hasn't done us any favours at all.
The board of a football club should consist of smart people who know how to make a plan, drive an organisation to achieve that plan, and make confident decisions - and leave the football bit to those who are employed to do that job.
Do you think Rupert Murdoch knows how to work a TV camera or run a newspaper press?
What a nonsensical board appointment.
What does Kate Jenkins Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commissioner, know about football?!!
The powers that be at Carlton have now moved 180 degrees, from appointments based on inherited wealth, to those driven by political correctness.
Such decisions can only serve to further alienate die hard Carlton supporters.
Pathetic decision.
She might tidy us up from a employee treatment perspective.
We have not been doing a good enough job in that regard.
Haven't heard from anyone that she is a Carlton supporter.
Couldn't care less if she was a women's rights campaigner or whatever - just could not care less. It is an important issue - don't get me wrong but if that is her only qualification for sitting on the board of a football club I'm baffled.
Football is a business and is subject to changes and trends that will shape its future generally and more specifically how clubs will need to operate all aspects their individual business in order to be successful.
We have not adapted well to the chnages that have occurerd in recent times hence our current predicament. We need a board that will ensure that we are prepared and organised for the future of change and that we have strategies and plans in place to make sure we can be successful.
The board needs to understand the business of AFL football and what we need to be doing to be successful not necessarily the onfield issues where hopefully we have enough expertise in the football dept. Not complaining about her appointment but I'm just not sure what this new member specifically brings to the table
If they have appointed her for her dealing with the issues in which she supposedly has some expertise, then this appointment is a joke.
They could have appointed her as a consultant to the board without placing her on the board.
I would have loved to see someone like David Parkin appointed to the board. His wealth and breadth of knowledge on football would have been a true asset to our club.
Fastest growing Melbourne based club
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/the-board
Won the last 3 flags
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/club/people/the-board
Biggest club in Australia
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/club/the-board
I wasn't impressed until I read that she will be taking a keen interest in our stand alone woman's team. This will bring in more members and add to the general appeal of the club as we move away from the old boy old school image.
I wasn't impressed until I read that she will be taking a keen interest in our stand alone woman's team. This will bring in more members and add to the general appeal of the club as we move away from the old boy old school image.
And I know the perfect Captain of our Woman's team. Chachi17? Come on down! Gun footballer, Gun Leader and I'd imagine donning the navy blue would be a dream come true for her and her family.
Fastest growing Melbourne based club
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/club/about/the-board
Won the last 3 flags
http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/club/people/the-board
Biggest club in Australia
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/club/the-board
All have ex-players, high achievers in other sports and/or folk with extensive involvement in the football industry or administration of other sports. While we have an ex-player, our board would seem to lack involvement in the football industry and sports administration expertise.
I can't believe what I am reading.
The board brings on a very accomplished Person into the board and we all here is negative comments and more "jobs for the boys".
Yet we are the first to complain when the "boys" get a job.
http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/the-club/board - No ex Players on this list either. Probably the most Profitable club to continue on with MBB's theme.
I can't believe what I am reading.
The board brings on a very accomplished Person into the board and we all here is negative comments and more "jobs for the boys".
Yet we are the first to complain when the "boys" get a job.
http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/the-club/board - No ex Players on this list either. Probably the most Profitable club to continue on with MBB's theme.
I'm not seeking any "jobs for the boys" Shadesy.
I'm seeking someone who has played the game at the highest level, who has continuing experience in football long after their playing career has ended, and who has the respect of the Carlton Supporters because of their proven long history of practical involvement in the game.
I assume that Kate Jenkins is fairly good at the job for which she holds the position that she does.
However, she has absolutely no experience at all when it comes to offering up any expertise in running a football club.
As i said, if the club believes that she can add value to the place, then why not appoint her as a consultant to the board rather than ON the board?
And before I get accused of sexism, Jeannie Pratt, unlike the late Richard, doesn't know much about the game either.
We all know why she is the Vice President, and it ain't because she understands the game.
Mind you, if the CFC ever wants to put on a stage show, then Jeannie is your girl. ::)
I can't believe what I am reading.
The board brings on a very accomplished Person into the board and we all here is negative comments and more "jobs for the boys".
Yet we are the first to complain when the "boys" get a job.
http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/the-club/board - No ex Players on this list either. Probably the most Profitable club to continue on with MBB's theme.
I don't think anyone wants a "job for the boys".
I think something in the neighbourhood of relevant qualifications would be nice though.
Can I ask how someone can become a board member without being voted onto the board by the members?
This has left a distinctly dodgey smell about it.
Why is this person entitled to a place on our board? She has a bunch of irrelevant qualifications, unclear if she gives a flying crap about the club and is another lawyer...
The club has made absolutely no attempt to explain why someone with those qualifications is now on the board.
Can I ask how someone can become a board member without being voted onto the board by the members?
This has left a distinctly dodgey smell about it.
Why is this person entitled to a place on our board? She has a bunch of irrelevant qualifications, unclear if she gives a flying crap about the club and is another lawyer...
The club has made absolutely no attempt to explain why someone with those qualifications is now on the board.
Or we could get Adrian Gleeson ::)
Or we could get Adrian Gleeson ::)
Didn't you get the email from the prez? Pretty much explained it for mine. I think we all need to move ok from board members being assigned to silvertail benefactors and embrace some diversity. Let's face it, the old way aint working
Can I ask how someone can become a board member without being voted onto the board by the members?
This has left a distinctly dodgey smell about it.
Why is this person entitled to a place on our board? She has a bunch of irrelevant qualifications, unclear if she gives a flying crap about the club and is another lawyer...
The club has made absolutely no attempt to explain why someone with those qualifications is now on the board.
Take that a step further Jeza, how many people on the board got on the board via a vote?
I reckon over half of our board over the past 15 years got on without a vote.
Take that a step further Jeza, how many people on the board got on the board via a vote?
I reckon over half of our board over the past 15 years got on without a vote.
The argument is
"Would you trust the members to vote?
"We'd end up with a board full of ex-footballers!"
Well guess what....it hasn't worked the way we've been doing things....and some of those ex-footballers have probably done very well for themselves.
What qualifications does Eddie McGuire have to run a football club?
What qualifications does Eddie McGuire have to run a football club?
The same he had to run channel 9
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The argument is
"Would you trust the members to vote?
"We'd end up with a board full of ex-footballers!"
Well guess what....it hasn't worked the way we've been doing things....and some of those ex-footballers have probably done very well for themselves.
I think we've had this discussion a few times.
Sooner or later, you have to give the members some say in it all. Perhaps its a critical step in actually growing our membership base!
In regards to ex-footballers....
1. They would have to nominate, can't think of too many that would do so. Hence, it's unlikely to get a board full of them.
2. If they do nominate, they would probably be very well credentialled, and we do know they will have best intentions and be passionate about their role!
3. Can't be any worse with how we've been going anyway.
What qualifications does Eddie McGuire have to run a football club?
He has been involved in the football industry (from the media side) for most of his working life, knows how to manipulate the media to Collingwood's benefit and has a solid business and political background.
I would take Eddie over LoGiudice in a heartbeat.
He has been involved in the football industry (from the media side) for most of his working life, knows how to manipulate the media to Collingwood's benefit and has a solid business and political background.
I would take Eddie over LoGiudice in a heartbeat.
So would I. But this nonsense about qualifications to run a football club is ust that Nonsense. People bring different skill sets to all sorts of positions, and we have had the Head of NAB and Australia Post and we are no where.
We have had ex players on the board...Sticks anyone? Glesson?
So would I. But this nonsense about qualifications to run a football club is ust that Nonsense. People bring different skill sets to all sorts of positions, and we have had the Head of NAB and Australia Post and we are no where.
We have had ex players on the board...Sticks anyone? Glesson?
I reckon Wet Toast has a good mix, particularly with their ex-WAFL blokes who have succeeded in other careers.
I don't think former players are the answer per se, but former players who have been successful in business, management, administration, etc would be a different kettle of fish.
I reckon Wet Toast has a good mix, particularly with their ex-WAFL blokes who have succeeded in other careers.
I don't think former players are the answer per se, but former players who have been successful in business, management, administration, etc would be a different kettle of fish.
Hawks have the best board.
Just look at the club, they are flying in every regard
Hawks have the best board.
Just look at the club, they are flying in every regard
Yes, Hawthorn have a couple of ex-players with business acumen on the board.
Yes, Hawthorn have a couple of ex-players with business acumen on the board.
Are u saying they must be ex players?
The argument is
"Would you trust the members to vote?
"We'd end up with a board full of ex-footballers!"
Well guess what....it hasn't worked the way we've been doing things....and some of those ex-footballers have probably done very well for themselves.
This system of being able to appoint someone to the board just because they know Fahour and McLaughlin is a bit of a joke really.
It's showing a bit of contempt for the members this sort of carry on.
Forget being the first AFL club to appoint an equal opportunity commissioner to the board - what about being the first club to appoint a regular Joe fan on the board. Someone who is not a multi-millionaire or a Lawyer.
Are u saying they must be ex players?
What I'm saying is that having a couple of board members who understand the inner workings of a football club, and preferably a successful one, is better than having no-one who has experienced the game at a high level. However, it shouldn't be just any ex-players; they must have other relevant expertise such as business management, sports administration, etc.
What qualifications does Eddie McGuire have to run a football club?
i'll give credit where its due. He took over the pies that were a basket case in '99 and got the club financial with big sponsors
and played in 2 grand finals all in 3 years. He was in his early 30's
Whilst they accumulated only 1 flag under his 16 year reign and some might see this as a failure, they are a powerhouse in all facets of football business