And the winner is …
Don PUKE ... collect your final pay cheque loser.
Your career is, mercifully, now finished.
Hey Betts. Was moving to Adelaide a good choice mate?
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11 goal kickers for us today. Talk about sharing it around and not counting on any one player.
11 goal kickers for us today. Talk about sharing it around and not counting on any one player.
Thats 2 weeks in a row.
Has anyone one noticed Maclure talk so positive about our side and talk us up like this before? Not in many, many years.
Great win .
Those green sprouts are starting to blossom. :D
We were on top almost all day.
Has anyone one noticed Maclure talk so positive about our side and talk us up like this before? Not in many, many years.
He's a bit "whichever way the wind blows", old Sellers.
Thats 2 weeks in a row.
Tell me now Teague is not the best option for us as a senior coach and that in the time he has taken the caretaker role, that he isn’t one of the top 3 coaches in the league?
Can’t be unhappy with that, go Blues????
27pts against a side in the 8. That's a bloody good win.
5-2 under Teague, the two losses by 3 and 5 pts.
I'm happy to sign him now except that is invariably a jinx. So happy to wait....lol.
Congratulations to everyone involved in the club for doing everything better than the Crows.
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27pts against a side in the 8. That's a bloody good win.
5-2 under Teague, the two losses by 3 and 5 pts.
I'm happy to sign him now except that is invariably a jinx. So happy to wait....lol.
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If one of those games had been a win, we would be 1 game out of the 5? That's amazing
That was a very professional win - I think it's official now, we are a professional club again, I think we know what we are doing again now! An excellent performance by the coaches and players and a strong demonstration that players know their roles, know the gameplan and are thoroughly enjoying their footy.
For me a very significant win.
Another ridiculously dominant performance by Cripps. 39 possies, 4 marks, 7 tackles, 1 goal, 19 clearances, 24 CP's, 89% time on ground. Jesus.
Gee Eddie loves Carlton or this Carlton team. Haven't heard so many superlatives for a long time.
The thing I liked most about it was that we were challenged in the last quarter, steadied and then reasserted ourselves at the end.
That's real growth.
The Teague momentum is reaching the 'unstoppable' stage.
The thing I liked most about it was that we were challenged in the last quarter, steadied and then reasserted ourselves at the end.
That's real growth.
The Teague momentum is reaching the 'unstoppable' stage.
Absolutely agree - felt that familiar fear of us getting done over but we steadied.
Showed on the screen at the MCG Teague waiting for the players and the Prez comes and shakes his hand.
Was that a sign?
Just leaving after a great day. Cripps was great but Setterfield was the man for me today. Breakout performance.
Loved setters - was worried when he ran off holding his hand. He’s a great get.
Absolutely agree - felt that familiar fear of us getting done over but we steadied.
Showed on the screen at the MCG Teague waiting for the players and the Prez comes and shakes his hand.
Was that a sign?
Eddie McGuire commenting about how positive all the talk was about Teague at the presidents lunch today.
Perhaps the tide is turning in Teagues favour.....finally.
Get right in the DT you bloody ripper.
Great games from many, Cripps, setters, SPS among others.
We need to keep up the momentum.
Great win with the worst umpiring all year and 4 best 18 out injured.
Fark you Adelaide. You’re the new dumping ground for our rejects
Eddie McGuire commenting about how positive all the talk was about Teague at the presidents lunch today.
Perhaps the tide is turning in Teagues favour.....finally.
There was a lot of talk again by the commentary team about it and it was amusing when it was revealed that quite a number of high profile politicians and celebrities are jumping on the Blues Bandwagon!
3 games out of the 8, 4 games to go, it's mathematically possible! LOL!!!!!
Actually, if we kicked one more goal in the 2 games we lost we'd only be one game out of the 8.
There was a lot of talk again by the commentary team about it and it was amusing when it was revealed that quite a number of high profile politicians and celebrities are jumping on the Blues Bandwagon!
Maybe that's how we cracked 64k members ????
3 games out of the 8, 4 games to go, it's mathematically possible! LOL!!!!!
Actually, if we kicked one more goal in the 2 games we lost we'd only be one game out of the 8.
I actually just did the ladder predictor.
I tweaked it with us winning every game and teams we want to lose, losing.
It is mathematically possible for us to still make the 8!
Would someone please pass Levi Casboult a contract to sign.
Would someone please pass Levi Casboult a contract to sign.
Moving him back to defence for a while was a stroke of genius.
I actually just did the ladder predictor.
I tweaked it with us winning every game and teams we want to lose, losing.
It is mathematically possible for us to still make the 8!
Someone on Facebook did it be fore last weeks game and likewise found a way for us to make the 8!
Casboult + Phillips > O’Brien + Jenkin
O’Brien got his share of hit outs and picked up possessions around the ground but most were inconsequential/ineffectual.
Go Blues!
Marvellous ????
Moving him back to defence for a while was a stroke of genius.
Agree...Levi is a keeper and those games he played down back did wonders for his confidence.
Some old blokes in Thomas, Simpson and Murphy playing some fine footy too....credit to Murphy he has been very good since the Teague
era began and Simpson who also looked jaded has a new spring in his step.
Gibbons is turning into a reliable senior footballer, disposal has improved and has proved again that the State Leagues are a source of ready made talent.
Cripps had his own footy today and monstered the Crows, Brodie Smith got trampled on in his efforts to tag the skipper and 3 Brownlow votes coming Cripps way.
Walsh has Stack breathing down his neck for the rising star but put up another consistent game today and is keeping his nose in front IMO.
Casboult + Phillips > O’Brien + Jenkin
O’Brien got his share of hit outs and picked up possessions around the ground but most were inconsequential/ineffectual.
Go Blues!
I thought Obrien was the Crows best player, Jenkin was putrid and will be at another club next season.
Philips was ok in the ruck but I thought the Bolt was the man with his all round display....its a Jones like turnaround for the Bolt
and I'm shocked at how good his decision making and execution has become. Hitting moving targets by foot, choosing the right handball options, more body on body ruckwork
and leading patterns are better than anyone else. :o
I thought Obrien was the Crows best player, Jenkin was putrid and will be at another club next season.
Philips was ok in the ruck but I thought the Bolt was the man with his all round display....its a Jones like turnaround for the Bolt
and I'm shocked at how good his decision making and execution has become. Hitting moving targets by foot, choosing the right handball options, more body on body ruckwork
and leading patterns are better than anyone else. :o
Casboult obviously played out of his skin, but don't sell Phillips short.
O'Brien was flavour of the month coming into the game.
Phillips had 35 hitouts (32 to Obrien), took 3 contested marks, including 2 inside 50 and kicked 1.1 and a goal assist too.
Obrien certainly didn't play a bad game, but pat on the back to Phillips who first up, performed.
By the way, how good is jack Silvagni’s decision making under pressure in the fwd 50? He creates a lot of goals.
Mega proud today, great win against a top half side, albeit one with issues. Best win in years I reckon. Good team effort, lot of contributors. Crisps massive. Defence well organised and ball movement good - too good for that one paced mob.
Need to tidy up finishing, Hollywood Harry still burns a lot of chances. Casboult's three today papered over a few issues, has been massive last month.
Jenkins really craps me off and I can see why the Crows are keen to fob him off as a trade.. It's OK to bludge and be selfish against a crap side but he was badly shown up today. Doesn't work anywhere near hard enough and not smart enough anyways to create space. Take note Harry, don't play like that bloke.
Oh, and Glenelg beat the SANFL Crows. Gibbs had 40 and Betts kicked 4. So there ain't much to come in. Time to hit the panic button Donald.
Aside from the obvious developing players I think we are started to see other lesser players making more and more valuable contributions, some of who we had started to write off. All of the team was pretty good today but I am especially encouraged by the progress of Setters, Kennedy, Lang and O'Brien and even Phillips. These were increasingly regarded by many as fringe players but now really seem capable of becoming valuable players for us.
Paddy Dow is my only slight concern but I think he will eventually come good.
If we can get the lesser lights really performing well then we are definitely on the right track - that's what makes champion teams.
Apparently Campo’s two boys were at the game today ... in Carlton clobber!
I hope Bryce enjoyed the sea air today.
Mega proud today, great win against a top half side, albeit one with issues. Best win in years I reckon. Good team effort, lot of contributors. Crisps massive. Defence well organised and ball movement good - too good for that one paced mob.
Need to tidy up finishing, Hollywood Harry still burns a lot of chances. Casboult's three today papered over a few issues, has been massive last month.
Jenkins really craps me off and I can see why the Crows are keen to fob him off as a trade.. It's OK to bludge and be selfish against a crap side but he was badly shown up today. Doesn't work anywhere near hard enough and not smart enough anyways to create space. Take note Harry, don't play like that bloke.
Oh, and Glenelg beat the SANFL Crows. Gibbs had 40 and Betts kicked 4. So there ain't much to come in. Time to hit the panic button Donald.
That's 3 sides in the 8/were in the 8 at the time, that we have beaten. Brisbane haven't been beaten in 6 games since we rolled them.
All our 5 wins under Teague have been against interstate teams. Eagles next week hopefully makes it 6.
Casboult obviously played out of his skin, but don't sell Phillips short.
O'Brien was flavour of the month coming into the game.
Phillips had 35 hitouts (32 to Obrien), took 3 contested marks, including 2 inside 50 and kicked 1.1 and a goal assist too.
Obrien certainly didn't play a bad game, but pat on the back to Phillips who first up, performed.
Philips was ok in the ruck but Obrien had 20 possies to add to his 32 hitouts...not bad for a young player with zero help from his fellow ruckman(if you could call Jenkins a ruckman). I would keep Philips as backup but replace Lobbe with a bigger younger ruckman who can be trained to play on the monsters..
Great effort from Kennedy and the medical staff because his ankle injury looked bad at the time. Wouldn’t be surprised if he pulls up sore and misses next week.
We have two angry, solid bodied forward / onballers in DeLuca and Gibbons who love the close in hard stuff, don’t mind giving one on the way through to whoever is tailing Cripps. They also know how to block up forward. We were very critical of Murphy for not being physical, mainly because there was no one else to do it. The emerging of those two has meant that Murphy can now concentrate on what he does best.
Also, Plowman is coming of age, unselfish, good decision making and shutting down his man (was he on Lynch???)
Setterfield, Walsh, SPS were great and Lachie O’Brien was far more composed with his kicking.....he will come good.
And just to top off a great day, Liam Stocker nailed it in the twos!!!!
Great win .
Those green sprouts are starting to blossom. :D
We were on top almost all day.
Don't mention 'green shoots or any other stupid Boltonism. They died with that putrid coach.
I actually just did the ladder predictor.
I tweaked it with us winning every game and teams we want to lose, losing.
It is mathematically possible for us to still make the 8!
How's your tipping? We need you now to get 9 winners each week...lol.
@ IBWT
If reckon if there were ever any green shoots someone was smoking them.
Gave myself 10 minutes of entertainment value on the Adelaide Big Footy Board. A $hitload of melts...lol.
Magnificent team performance today. Particularly without Kruez, Charlie, Cunningham, Fish....
Samo is in his element down back, Crippa's legendary, and Levi ..
Levi, free of the only-big-forward burden has emerged and maximized his skills. He's spoiling, tackling (See v GC 44seconds to go), and finally throwing his weight around. Not to mention his 1st class marking and kicking for goodness sake. Makes me smile ????
Our seniors, who have had quiet patches, have all stepped up under Teague. The addition of some mature bodies with decent skills in Gibbo and Deluca has played a part too. Our kids now have the cover and leadership they need to grow.
Jack, Kennedy, Setters, Walsh et al. are certainly growing.
very exciting times ahead Bluebaggers. All 64k of you ????
That was a dominant 4 qtr performance. Great win.
Played like men today, all rolled their sleeves up and dug in.
I would like to say this however, ever since Daisy called the umpire a cheat we have got a very raw deal from the umpires, so many barely there frees given to the opposition and we basically have to be raped to get a free. If anyone on here calls into the radio stations then I think you should bring this into the air and call the umpires on their bias.
Even today when Dow didn't have many disposal he did a lot of defensive running, DeLuca is a little demon, Gibbons the same, O'Brien ran hard up and down the wings and hit some important targets, Jack was at his hard working best, Walsh was superb as was Weitering, although I hope he gets the pushing in the back out of his game soon.
Samos pick up and spin away from the contact was a once in a season play, then Setterfield did it just afterwards, very clean and I always feel confident when either have the the ball in their hands.
I could gush on all night but the results justify the sacking of Bolton. Now the Carlton board needs to finish the job and appoint Teague, maybe get some more experienced assistant coaches around him.
It's a good time to be a Carlton member, and it's great to hear the Carlton crowd at the game for the first time in two years.
Cripps' 19 clearances is equal second in AFL/VFL history (with Brent Moloney) and behind Paul Salmon (?) with 22.
umpires were putrid again....only that kept the Crows even remotely close....
We sang the song three times post game!
umpires were putrid again....only that kept the Crows even remotely close....
We sang the song three times post game!
Well I finally managed to get to a game this year. And what a game! I think I got fourth song in ;D
Umpiring definitely did not go unnoticed by the Carlton supporters at the ground. Towards the end of the third things seem to get pretty heated. Cheer squad will probably get another complaint. Even with a win the blues crowd gave the umpires a send off after the final siren as they walked off.
Apparently Campo’s two boys were at the game today ... in Carlton clobber!
Smokey for coach?
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-27/love-is-in-the-air-two-umpires-get-engaged-at-the-g
In a location any sports-mad couple would dream of, it was unclear whether a free kick for high contact was paid as the South Australian pair embraced in centre circle.
Might explain the free kicks
I am super keen on how Gibbons has been developing. Plays like an angry ant, tough as nails, and knows how to kick a goal. Puopolo Mk 2.
Also very happy with Setterfield - it's easy to forget he has played <20 games - massive upside with this boy.
As for Walsh, I thought he seemed a bit quieter today - but still had 30 touches!
One last observation - Cripps is the only one in the team who wears the fluorescent yellow boots - I was wondering yesterday if that is done on purpose so all the other players can spot him at a glance...?
Smokey for coach?
Assistant?
Paddy Dow needs a lengthy run in the 2s.....
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-27/love-is-in-the-air-two-umpires-get-engaged-at-the-g
In a location any sports-mad couple would dream of, it was unclear whether a free kick for high contact was paid as the South Australian pair embraced in centre circle.
Might explain the free kicks
I was scoffing the last of my fish and chips and finishing my beer when the proposal was happening so I missed it. I’m sure that many folk would find it romantic but I don’t think that it was appropriate.
I’m not sure that it affected Eleni’s umpiring but, if it did, what caused the other two muppets to umpire as poorly as she did?
... I thought the Bolt was the man with his all round display....its a Jones like turnaround for the Bolt
and I'm shocked at how good his decision making and execution has become. Hitting moving targets by foot, choosing the right handball options, more body on body ruckwork
and leading patterns are better than anyone else. :o
I’m fascinated by the theory of alternate universes. Apparently there’s one out there where Donald Trump made it all the way to president and man walked on the moon ::)
But to think that, due to a wrinkle in the space-time continuum, Levi Casboult is actually a force to be reckoned with just blows my mind!
I’m fascinated by the theory of alternate universes. Apparently there’s one out there where Donald Trump made it all the way to president and man walked on the moon ::)
But to think that, due to a wrinkle in the space-time continuum, Levi Casboult is actually a force to be reckoned with just blows my mind!
And he's finally throwing his weight around!
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blues-control-cripps-masterclass-gives-carlton-plenty-to-crow-about-20190727-p52bd8.html
And he's finally throwing his weight around!
Agree. He’s playing a far more physical game.
We need that to continue.
I’m sure that is something Teague has demanded
I'm the first to poo poo Marc Murphy for his performances, but he has definitely improved his output in line with what you expect from a senior player with his experience.
That's all we supporters want, effort across the board from every player. It was a pleasure to watch them play yesterday. I actually stood up and applauded in my lounge room when the final siren went.
The first time I've been proud of this club in many a year... Still can't wipe the smile off may face!
I'm the first to poo poo Marc Murphy for his performances, but he has definitely improved his output in line with what you expect from a senior player with his experience.
That's all we supporters want, effort across the board from every player. It was a pleasure to watch them play yesterday. I actually stood up and applauded in my lounge room when the final siren went.
The first time I've been proud of this club in many a year... Still can't wipe the smile off may face!
here, here.
I too thought Murphy was 'done', cooked or whatever.....the change in many is remarkable really. Yesterday was a real team effort.
And the guys are clearly loving it - after all, winners are grinners? ;D
As the players are saying, Teague is making a compelling case....
I'm the first to poo poo Marc Murphy for his performances, but he has definitely improved his output in line with what you expect from a senior player with his experience.
That's all we supporters want, effort across the board from every player. It was a pleasure to watch them play yesterday. I actually stood up and applauded in my lounge room when the final siren went.
The first time I've been proud of this club in many a year... Still can't wipe the smile off may face!
Totally agree.
Others will try to tell you he hasn’t changed at all.
What garbage.
He actually tackles with intent now and gets serious contested possessions.
Well done Marc Murphy, you have reinvented your game for the better
Played like men today, all rolled their sleeves up and dug in.
I would like to say this however, ever since Daisy called the umpire a cheat we have got a very raw deal from the umpires, so many barely there frees given to the opposition and we basically have to be raped to get a free. If anyone on here calls into the radio stations then I think you should bring this into the air and call the umpires on their bias.
Even today when Dow didn't have many disposal he did a lot of defensive running, DeLuca is a little demon, Gibbons the same, O'Brien ran hard up and down the wings and hit some important targets, Jack was at his hard working best, Walsh was superb as was Weitering, although I hope he gets the pushing in the back out of his game soon.
Samos pick up and spin away from the contact was a once in a season play, then Setterfield did it just afterwards, very clean and I always feel confident when either have the the ball in their hands.
I could gush on all night but the results justify the sacking of Bolton. Now the Carlton board needs to finish the job and appoint Teague, maybe get some more experienced assistant coaches around him.
It's a good time to be a Carlton member, and it's great to hear the Carlton crowd at the game for the first time in two years.
That pick up spin just shows what class SPS has...
Totally agree.
Others will try to tell you he hasn’t changed at all.
What garbage.
He actually tackles with intent now and gets serious contested possessions.
Well done Marc Murphy, you have reinvented your game for the better
And he seems to be enjoying himself!
And he seems to be enjoying himself!
Agree, they all do.
The clouds have lifted for the time being.
This was a real 4 quarter effort. Some of the transition work out of the back half yesterday was first rate. SPS adds a fair bit of class and although he tends to get too cute sometimes generally he does something constructive with his disposal. A few blokes have saved their careers since Teague has taken over.
See Kennedy, Silvagni, Murphy, Curnow.
If Fish is back next week I'd get rid of Lang. He's no good. Don't be deceived. Where the majority have increased their intensity over the last 7 weeks he's still a cat. Not up to it. O'Brien is showing more.
I remember Setterfield being so fumbly at the start of the year but he has improved significantly since then to say the least.
Well done to Philips. All I wanted was a contest and he exceeded my expectations.
Gibbons has progressively got better as the year has gone on. Maybe the mature body comes to the for as the younger ones tire. Congrats on the selection team in keeping the faith where I was wanting him dropped after round 4.
Jones continues to give you heart in the mouth moments but his importance to the team cannot be understated.
Cripps, superlatives escape me. I haven't been this excited about a Carlton player since Kouta and I say a prayer every night for his continues health and contract extension commitment.
Adelaide are a rabble at the moment. A lot of head shaking and arm waving went on with them yesterday. The West Coast will be a totally different story and be a great indicator of we're we are at. Bring it on I say and I wouldn't have been saying that 7 weeks ago.
Biggest thing that has changed is our players belief.
Even when things are not going our way, we never go into our shells or deviate, we just continue with the same run, flair and attack until it turns. We don’t lose focus anymore.
It’s taken a while but if believing they belong is Teagues doing he should be signed up today. Making players believe and building confidence in a young group is understated and vitally important.
I think it clear we have turned the corner.
I would like to say this however, ever since Daisy called the umpire a cheat we have got a very raw deal from the umpires, so many barely there frees given to the opposition and we basically have to be raped to get a free.
Hard to argue this point given an appalling performance by the officials yesterday.
This was a real 4 quarter effort. Some of the transition work out of the back half yesterday was first rate. SPS adds a fair bit of class and although he tends to get too cute sometimes generally he does something constructive with his disposal. A few blokes have saved their careers since Teague has taken over.
See Kennedy, Silvagni, Murphy, Curnow.
If Fish is back next week I'd get rid of Lang. He's no good. Don't be deceived. Where the majority have increased their intensity over the last 7 weeks he's still a cat. Not up to it. O'Brien is showing more.
I remember Setterfield being so fumbly at the start of the year but he has improved significantly since then to say the least.
Well done to Philips. All I wanted was a contest and he exceeded my expectations.
Gibbons has progressively got better as the year has gone on. Maybe the mature body comes to the for as the younger ones tire. Congrats on the selection team in keeping the faith where I was wanting him dropped after round 4.
Jones continues to give you heart in the mouth moments but his importance to the team cannot be understated.
Cripps, superlatives escape me. I haven't been this excited about a Carlton player since Kouta and I say a prayer every night for his continues health and contract extension commitment.
Adelaide are a rabble at the moment. A lot of head shaking and arm waving went on with them yesterday. The West Coast will be a totally different story and be a great indicator of we're we are at. Bring it on I say and I wouldn't have been saying that 7 weeks ago.
Lang does a lot more than Dow presently.
Fisher and Fasolo for Lang and Dow?
Lang does a lot more than Dow presently.
Fisher and Fasolo for Lang and Dow?
Fasolo a waste of time
Play Stocker
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One last observation - Cripps is the only one in the team who wears the fluorescent yellow boots - I was wondering yesterday if that is done on purpose so all the other players can spot him at a glance...?
It's hard to tell at normal speed, but Newman was wearing boots very similar to Cripps. Newman's look like a block colour bright green, and Cripps' looked like a graduated colorway, from bright green to a lighter green or white. Different brands too I believe.
They might have some sponsorship deal with a boot manufacturer. It wouldn’t be the first time it has happened. I have a vague memory of Kouta having a sponsorship with a boot manufacturer and the entire club a sponsorship with a direct competitor. Big clash of interests. Don’t quote my words but I am sure it was Kouta. Us oldies struggle with long term memory. Short term memory isn’t much better by the way. Where did I put my coffee again? Hang on, I don’t drink coffee. >:( ;D
Remember Sheedy painting the adidas "three stripes" across some of his teams' boots to disguise their true origin with another manufacturer?
And yep, Kouta had a separate deal
Assistant?
Bugger it.
Bring all our boys home.
That pick up spin just shows what class SPS has...
Class.
It's the class of 2016 slowhand.
Samo picked by CFC and Setters by Giants.
Followed by the class of SOS to land the latter with the former. ????
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blues-control-cripps-masterclass-gives-carlton-plenty-to-crow-about-20190727-p52bd8.html
For those discussing boots etc.
I wouldn't be too quick to endorse the manufacturer of Crippa's boots.
Look closely. Looks like one boot is held together with sticky tape
That was a great day at the G. Only about 40000 there, but the roar when Setterfield snapped that goal in the last was seriously loud. Cripps was phenomenal, when he's fit and firing he's like an unstoppable force of nature, so great to watch. Setterfield is going to be a serious footballer, very happy with how he is developing. Gibbons best game for mine too, he's coming along very nicely
For those discussing boots etc.
I wouldn't be too quick to endorse the manufacturer of Crippa's boots.
Look closely. Looks like one boot is held together with sticky tape
I think you'll find he got a guard or padding taped into, over his previous foot injury. Last week his foot got stomped on as well as his ankle roll.
That was a great day at the G. Only about 40000 there, but the roar when Setterfield snapped that goal in the last was seriously loud. Cripps was phenomenal, when he's fit and firing he's like an unstoppable force of nature, so great to watch. Setterfield is going to be a serious footballer, very happy with how he is developing. Gibbons best game for mine too, he's coming along very nicely
Hardly any Crow fans there.
Hardly any Crow fans there.
I actually felt there was a pretty good turn out of them..
Yep, there were plenty of Crows fans there
Yep, there were plenty of Crows fans there
The ones I spoke to were all but expecting a loss....
I actually felt there was a pretty good turn out of them..
Considering the debacle their season is becoming, I thought they had pretty good numbers. There were even some on the train from and to Geetroit.
How's your tipping? We need you now to get 9 winners each week...lol.
I tipped us right this week....
That was a great day at the G. Only about 40000 there, but the roar when Setterfield snapped that goal in the last was seriously loud. Cripps was phenomenal, when he's fit and firing he's like an unstoppable force of nature, so great to watch. Setterfield is going to be a serious footballer, very happy with how he is developing. Gibbons best game for mine too, he's coming along very nicely
I thought Gibbons was almost our best to half time (honourable mention to Crippa!) and was second best for the game.
I tipped us right this week....
I tipped us the last 3 weeks.
Going to the football is enjoyable again, we are playing as a team, backing ourselves and working our arse off.
Thank you David Teague.
Going to the football is enjoyable again, we are playing as a team, backing ourselves and working our arse off.
Thank you David Teague.
Here here. I missed the first half on Saturday but still wanted to be there. Got there a couple of minutes into the second half. I was amazed at how many people were also getting to the ground at that time.
This was the first 'Teague game' that I could get to. The renaissance is amazing - we will find out more over the next four weeks.
While this year with Bolton there were some periods of play where we moved the ball really well, it is happening more often and great to watch.
We aren't seemingly butchering the ball as much and there is an air of confidence in the team - and outside of the team as well.
It was great basically being in front for the game - we were sitting near the cheersquad and they started singing the song after Setters' goal in the last to put us 21? points up. I was thinking too soon to sing the song - glad I was wrong!
If Cripps' had kicked the goal in the last instead of OOB, the roar would have been massive.
As others have said, it was enjoyable to be at. I think the Saints is the only other game we can get to, but am looking forward to it!
Great game to watch, albeit on TV over here. Agree with the rest, it was probably the most complete performance of the Teague coached wins. Against a top 8 side who kept coming but we were able to steady every time and then pull away and win well. Very few non-contributors across the board. So many players have stepped up in recent weeks that it's hard to believe we were so bad only 8 weeks ago.
Too many good performances to mention but loved the games of Setterfield, Silvagni and Gibbons.
It was also fantastic to hear the crowd support for the little 1% efforts when players came off the ground...and especially after Levi jagged that 50m bomb on the run. The enjoyment is clear to see on the players' faces at the moment.
West Coast will be a step-up again but a solid performance, even if it's a loss, should just about get Teague across the line.
I thought Cripps has become much smarter in his forward positioning, as have Levi, Phillips was good as well. They attract the larger defenders causing them to be followed, if they aren't followed they get a free run at the marking contest! But causing opponents to follow them away from the contests, which creates opportunity for SoJ and Kennedy as well as the other smaller forwards to mark with evenly matched opponents.
Having Walsh, SPS, Fisher and Gibbons supporting sMurph and Ed up field are a key to this, they make good/better decisions by foot and are not just kicking mindlessly to a spot.
McKay still made some silly mistakes dragging opponents to the contest.
One thing that caught my eye post match, why did we have so many SA umpires at a Crows game in Melbourne?
Geez I thought SPS was good on the weekend.
I don't reckon I have seen him play as an assured game as what he did Saturday.
Clean with his hands, tough at the contest and skilful.
He's been good in patches but that game was all class
Geez I thought SPS was good on the weekend.
I don't reckon I have seen him play as an assured game as what he did Saturday.
Clean with his hands, tough at the contest and skilful.
He's been good in patches but that game was all class
Well, some of the recruiters did say he was the best player to ever come out of WA!
Big statement, but if that's his level and we can keep him we've a lot of happy times ahead!
Well, some of the recruiters did say he was the best player to ever come out of WA!
Big statement, but if that's his level and we can keep him we've a lot of happy times ahead!
Yet SOS wanted Setters more (back then)..... ;D
Yet SOS wanted Setters more (back then)..... ;D
Seriously horse for courses, back then SPS was never going to displace the GWS midfield.
Kelly, Coniglio, Shiel, Whitfield, Greene, Scully, Smith, Taranto even Cameron as a big bodied on ball player. Maybe SPS displaces De Boar but that's only if you want to play him as a tagger, or eventually the older blokes like Ward, Johnson or Deledio, but not in the short term!
Yet SOS wanted Setters more (back then)..... ;D
and now he's got both. jedi master he is.
A lot of fans here seem to have quickly forgotten their bagging of SOS about Setterfield and Kennedy in recent weeks! :o
A lot of fans here seem to have quickly forgotten their bagging of SOS about Setterfield and Kennedy in recent weeks! :o
Not as many that have forgotten their bagging of the club for moving Bolton on ;D
A lot of fans here seem to have quickly forgotten their bagging of SOS about Setterfield and Kennedy in recent weeks! :o
and Lang (who I must admit is just getting a pass - but he's had a very interrupted run at it). and GWS rejects like Plow & Philips. Oh yeah - and LOB who's growing every week.
Not as many that have forgotten their bagging of the club for moving Bolton on ;D
The club hasn't appointed a replacement yet, don't go off too early, play the long game! ;)
The club hasn't appointed a replacement yet, don't go off too early, play the long game! ;)
No one said they had ;)
I simply said a few had forgotten bagging the club relentlessly
I simply said a few had forgotten bagging the club relentlessly
I doubt that is true.
I'm sure you'll find plenty raising their hand when you are not on here spoiling for a fight! ;)
When I came home on Saturday my wife asked me how the game went. I said it was a regulation win. She asked what did that mean and I said we were basically up one goal at quarter time, two goals up at half time, three goals up at three quarter time and we won by just over four goals in the end.
This is how it has been over the past three weeks. Get on top early, keep control and run out comfortable winners.
The first four weeks there was passion and drama, being down by five, six and seven goals, fighting back and everything hanging on the last minute, now we are in control.
All this is happening while we have five to ten players out who you would be considering being part of our best twenty-two.
Life as a Carlton supporter is a bit different from what we have been experiencing over the past 15 or so years.
Daisy charged, fined $5K reduced to $3K for an early plea!
Maybe I'm biased but I doubt he even made high contact, he took out the arms from the angles I've seen and the opponent staged for a free!
When will the MRP start fining players for staging?
Daisy charged, fined $5K reduced to $3K for an early plea!
Maybe I'm biased but I doubt he even made high contact, he took out the arms from the angles I've seen and the opponent staged for a free!
When will the MRP start fining players for staging?
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blicavs-fined-1000-for-staging-20190729-p52bwe.html
Gee that "Cheat" remark is proving expensive for Daisy. They are vindictive barstards alright. ::)
More utter BS from the AFL's resident cretin, the MRO.
I was pumping Phillips up pre-game and my boy delivered. Getting 1 vote in the coaches votes this week.
Obrien, or any other crow for that matter, nothing.
Not surprisingly captain courageous clean sweep.
10
Patrick Cripps (CARL)
5
Levi Casboult (CARL)
4
Kade Simpson (CARL)
4
Will Setterfield (CARL)
3
Marc Murphy (CARL)
2
Michael Gibbons (CARL)
1
Andrew Phillips (CARL)
1
Samuel Walsh (CARL)
Answerable to no-one .... must be a bloody comfortable gig at the AFL.
No one said they had ;)
I simply said a few had forgotten bagging the club relentlessly
Ad those who bagged Casboult and Murf. A lot of disrespect shown on here sometimes.
Casboult's amazing transformation has made him a potential trade target. Nobody here or anywhere else would have dared say that and not all that long ago. He stays. IMO
I was pumping Phillips up pre-game and my boy delivered. Getting 1 vote in the coaches votes this week.
Obrien, or any other crow for that matter, nothing.
Not surprisingly captain courageous clean sweep.
10
Patrick Cripps (CARL)
5
Levi Casboult (CARL)
4
Kade Simpson (CARL)
4
Will Setterfield (CARL)
3
Marc Murphy (CARL)
2
Michael Gibbons (CARL)
1
Andrew Phillips (CARL)
1
Samuel Walsh (CARL)
Super. Haven't seen that too often ????
I thought some of Phillips tap work was sublime. Mids must have been salivating when he got his hands to it. So accurate.
Good to see Gibbons in the votes as well. He's becoming another very good pick up. He loves the close in physical stuff.
Good to see Gibbons in the votes as well. He's becoming another very good pick up. He loves the close in physical stuff.
Played every game and getting better every week, good at spotting up a loose player and not a bad kick for goal either.
Plenty of hidden gems in the State leagues if you look hard enough..
Played every game and getting better every week, good at spotting up a loose player and not a bad kick for goal either.
Plenty of hidden gems in the State leagues if you look hard enough..
SOS leaves no stone unturned by the looks. When we rise up the ladder to the top I can see the SOS blueprint being hailed although it will be difficult to copy. Like Kerry said you only get one Alan Bond in a lifetime there will only be one GWS giving nuggets away so easily.
Casboult's amazing transformation has made him a potential trade target. Nobody here or anywhere else would have dared say that and not all that long ago. He stays. IMO
I have always been a fan - I would absolutely hate to see him running around in another club's jumper. Carlton supporter as a kid, has stuck it out through the bad times. I really hope the club make him a good offer and he stays.
............. good at spotting up a loose player......
Plenty of hidden gems in the State leagues if you look hard enough..
That first part is a big part of Teague's success in recent weeks, the question is probably why now, why did it take so long for these blokes to think for themselves? (btw., I don't know about your thoughts on this, but I'm damn certain AFL teams can't significantly change game plans and tactics mid-season, which means we are implementing stuff we've worked on probably since the pre-season and doing it better or just exposing it now!)
The second part is about finding gems which is good if you can pull it off, and I suspect watching the VFL last weekend Cottrell will be another long term bonus. Long term he looks like a Simmo replacement in the Simmo / Hunter mould!
But to keep reality in mind, and reality is in recent weeks the GWS recycled types have shown why they are still playing AFL. Those little failed AFL starts are almost like a filtering mechanism, provided you can cut through the excuses and find the truth about individuals!
SOS needs a pat on the back EB1, we have to give credit where credit is due!
That first part is a big part of Teague's success in recent weeks, the question is probably why now, why did it take so long for these blokes to think for themselves? (btw., I don't know about your thoughts on this, but I'm damn certain AFL teams can't significantly change game plans and tactics mid-season, which means we are implementing stuff we've worked on probably since the pre-season and doing it better or just exposing it now!)
The second part is about finding gems which is good if you can pull it off, and I suspect watching the VFL last weekend Cottrell will be another long term bonus. Long term he looks like a Simmo replacement in the Simmo / Hunter mould!
But to keep reality in mind, and reality is in recent weeks the GWS recycled types have shown why they are still playing AFL. Those little failed AFL starts are almost like a filtering mechanism, provided you can cut through the excuses and find the truth about individuals!
SOS needs a pat on the back EB1, we have to give credit where credit is due!
To some extent but Gibbons was an after thought pick IMO, my main problem was his poor selection of middle age players like Mullet, Shaw, Oshea and his GWS duds.....not sold on Cottrell but is showing more than he did.
We have a had a short injection of Adrenalin under Teague but I'm more a long term investor and need to see sustained success and how players perform when the Teague honeymoon is over.
7 week honeymoon EB?
More than that....
That first part is a big part of Teague's success in recent weeks, the question is probably why now, why did it take so long for these blokes to think for themselves? (btw., I don't know about your thoughts on this, but I'm damn certain AFL teams can't significantly change game plans and tactics mid-season, which means we are implementing stuff we've worked on probably since the pre-season and doing it better or just exposing it now!)
LP you write stuff like that and expect not to get called on it?
Everyone in the AFL is talking about the changes Teague has made, game plan, tactics and player positions.
The evidence proves it.
The stats are undeniable.
Yet you use the phrase
“which means we are implementing stuff we've worked on probably since the pre-season and doing it better or just exposing it now!”
You say I’m trying to start an argument.
No, I’m just pointing out the incorrect post.
my main problem was his poor selection of middle age players like Mullet, Shaw, Oshea and his GWS duds.....not sold on
Speak to anyone at the club and none of those (and a handful of others) were ever going to create a premiership framework.....we just needed bodies, who weren't kids, to fill a few gaps while we developed our list. If they made it, that's a bonus if the didn't, so be it, we didn't sell the farm.
I have always been a fan - I would absolutely hate to see him running around in another club's jumper. Carlton supporter as a kid, has stuck it out through the bad times. I really hope the club make him a good offer and he stays.
Probably not a popular opinion but I would be trying to sign him and then asses his Market Value. ( I'm not sure of Free agent status )
He is a 29 year old who is probably in career best form. ( Therefore try and Sell High )
Better off losing him and gaining something of value than losing say a TDK because of limited opportunities.
I hope he stays aswell but I also hope the club does due dilligence.
He's an unrestricted free agent, if he goes it will be for nothing.
LP you write stuff like that and expect not to get called on it?
Everyone in the AFL is talking about the changes Teague has made, game plan, tactics and player positions.
The evidence proves it.
The stats are undeniable.
Yet you use the phrase
“which means we are implementing stuff we've worked on probably since the pre-season and doing it better or just exposing it now!”
You say I’m trying to start an argument.
No, I’m just pointing out the incorrect post.
You read a sentence and presume a novel.
You can't assume the way they are playing now is something that they hadn't already trained for, but that assumption is implicit in your statement.
Anyone involved in even basic levels of football will tell you how hard it is to break trained habits mid-season, and it certainly doesn't happen in a week. Further the AFL players train more repetitively than part-timers, meaning they have far more retained memory of preferred behaviors.
What are those undeniable stats, and how do the last few weeks compare to the previous 12? But I'll be kind and warn you in advance that you'll have to be very selective to find any significant difference either overall or player by player.
The main difference other than the win/loss is that disposal efficiency has improved going inside F50, all the other stats have barely changed a smidgen!
Training has changed significantly, there's more hands on the footy than mind numbing drills. Its easy to see that its paid off on cleaner ball handling. I notice that the short passes are going lower making it difficult to spoil. We used to be such big turnover merchants now we're not.
Training has changed significantly, there's more hands on the footy than mind numbing drills. Its easy to see that its paid off on cleaner ball handling. I notice that the short passes are going lower making it difficult to spoil. We used to be such big turnover merchants now we're not.
You mean
Disposal Efficiency, that's the one stat that has changed! :o
We could attribute that to a deliberate change in training, but it's also correlated to the older guys moving back into their traditional roles displacing some of the less efficient kids.
They may well have changed training emphasis from tactics to skills, but that doesn't mean the tactics weren't already being rehearsed. Thinking it has assumes too much and it would be too much change in too short of a time period to come together like it has, it's even a little naive to think it's possible!
It's dead easy to pick a bit of this stat or a bit of that stat and make it a cause when it may just be a correlation. Like fans discussing the change in SoJ, is his current influence a cause of change or an effect of some other change, we don't get to know because we are outside the inner circle.
You mean Disposal Efficiency, that's the one stat that has changed! :o
We could attribute that to a deliberate change in training, but it's also correlated to the older guys moving back into their traditional roles displacing some of the less efficient kids.
They may well have changed training emphasis from tactics to skills, but that doesn't mean the tactics weren't already being rehearsed. Thinking it has assumes too much and it would be too much change in too short of a time period to come together like it has, it's even a little naive to think it's possible!
It's dead easy to pick a bit of this stat or a bit of that stat and make it a cause when it may just be a correlation. Like fans discussing the change in SoJ, is his current influence a cause of change or an effect of some other change, we don't get to know because we are outside the inner circle.
I'm not a stat man LP, I go by what I see. Yes it can be subjective but stats can also be read in so many different ways.
You read a sentence and presume a novel.
You can't assume the way they are playing now is something that they hadn't already trained for, but that assumption is implicit in your statement.
Anyone involved in even basic levels of football will tell you how hard it is to break trained habits mid-season, and it certainly doesn't happen in a week. Further the AFL players train more repetitively than part-timers, meaning they have far more retained memory of preferred behaviors.
What are those undeniable stats, and how do the last few weeks compare to the previous 12? But I'll be kind and warn you in advance that you'll have to be very selective to find any significant difference either overall or player by player. The main difference other than the win/loss is that disposal efficiency has improved going inside F50, all the other stats have barely changed a smidgen!
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/teague-of-his-own-how-stand-in-coach-has-changed-the-blues-20190726-p52b4c.html
Under Teague, they're fourth in the AFL for scoring from turnovers in their front half of the ground, compared to 14th from rounds 1 to 11. Efficiency inside their forward-50 arc is first in the AFL over those six weeks.
This shift is evident in an increase in scoring of more than three goals a game. The Blues have averaged 87.5 points under Teague, compared with 67.1 in the first half of the season that Bolton coached.
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theage.com.au/sport/afl/teague-of-his-own-how-stand-in-coach-has-changed-the-blues-20190726-p52b4c.html
Under Teague, they're fourth in the AFL for scoring from turnovers in their front half of the ground, compared to 14th from rounds 1 to 11. Efficiency inside their forward-50 arc is first in the AFL over those six weeks.
This shift is evident in an increase in scoring of more than three goals a game. The Blues have averaged 87.5 points under Teague, compared with 67.1 in the first half of the season that Bolton coached.
Yes that is correct and was the main point I made
above (https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=4684.msg287472#msg287472).
The only significant statistical change is disposal efficiency going inside F50. All the media beat up about massive statistical improvement across the board is bogus, the one key stat that has changed is finding targets inside F50 either on first entries or from turnovers!
Teague deserves a big tick for freeing the players up and for identifying how to fix a significant problem, but I'm can't extend the invention of the game tactics and scoring options to him in just the last 6 weeks. The back line has been steady and playing the way it's played for more than a year now, it hasn't really changed at all in the last few weeks. The argument could be made the biggest change was getting sMurph and Ed back into the midfield, which had the flow on effect of delivering lesser opponents to the likes of Fisher, Walsh and SPS as well as taking some of the team dependency off Cripps.
Yes that is correct and was the main point I made above (https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=4684.msg287472#msg287472).
The only significant statistical change is disposal efficiency going inside F50. All the media beat up about massive statistical improvement across the board is bogus, the one key stat that has changed is finding targets inside F50 either on first entries or from turnovers!
Teague deserves a big tick for freeing the players up and for identifying how to fix a significant problem, but I'm can't extend the invention of the game tactics and scoring options to him in just the last 6 weeks. The back line has been steady and playing the way it's played for more than a year now, it hasn't really changed at all in the last few weeks. The argument could be made the biggest change was getting sMurph and Ed back into the midfield, which had the flow on effect of delivering lesser opponents to the likes of Fisher, Walsh and SPS as well as taking some of the team dependency off Cripps.
You said disposal efficiency.
The article says turn overs in front half.
That is a change in the way we defend.
It means we are putting pressure on the opposition in our front half rather than letting them waltz through our pathetic zone Bolton had.
This has made us a much tougher team to play against.
Everyone talks about the contrast in game plan and approaches between Bolton and Teague but you won’t concede things have changed.
They must have been training this way since pre season?
This game plan has simply fallen into place since Teague took over?
You can’t be serious
The reason you guys are arguing is because there has been a change in philosophy.
Both have their merits, depending on which way you are alligned and IMHO there is no right answer but just what is going to work today.
Bolton's zone is a defensive/offensive strategy. It allows the forwards to have more space inside 50 because you welcome the opposition up the ground and empty the scoring zone whilst congesting your defensive area. It is less about individuals and their ability, and more about a team causing turnovers, and then making use of those turnovers. Bolton's plan would be more succesful with a team with a poorer set of disciplined individuals. His game plan's major issue, is that the attack relies on being efficient, and also relies on players being able to hit targets consistently which is something that even the poorest of athletic individuals can do provided they are footballers. It is less contested, and less combatative which means that its easier to play more consistently.
Teague is an offensive/defensive strategy. It relies on having more opportunities to score, and means more people are pressing into attack. It means that we are prone to scoring against from turnovers, and we are seeing teams go end to end on us quite easily (which is likely the most difficult thing to) because the major difficulty there is clearing that defensive zone, which results in more hurried kicks out due to pressure. I've noticed that in Teague's game plan, we are less reliant on generating scoring from winning first use. Our contested posessions have gone up (likely because our forward press is resulting in more contests inside forward 50). We seem to be more reliant on individual ability to play football and be athletic rather than team oriented game plan than we had before.
Which one is better is going to simply be a matter of what is "in vogue" than anything else.
Bolton was doing something that is more Hawthorn oriented. Teague was doing something more Adelaide/West Coast oriented.
This comment below is why we are arguing
“I'm damn certain AFL teams can't significantly change game plans and tactics mid-season, which means we are implementing stuff we've worked on probably since the pre-season and doing it better or just exposing it now!”
It is simply not true
This comment below is why we are arguing
“I'm damn certain AFL teams can't significantly change game plans and tactics mid-season, which means we are implementing stuff we've worked on probably since the pre-season and doing it better or just exposing it now!”
It is simply not true
The bulk of our game plan remains unchanged.
You might see clubs introduce new tactics as the season progress, but that doesn't mean they are doing it cold without rehearsing and training for it, and it doesn't happen in a week in the middle of the season.
It's the exact opposite of what you assert, tactics and game plans are trained for long before you ever see them attempted or implemented.
This comment below is why we are arguing
“I'm damn certain AFL teams can't significantly change game plans and tactics mid-season, which means we are implementing stuff we've worked on probably since the pre-season and doing it better or just exposing it now!”
It is simply not true
Again its all about perspective.
What one see's as a change of game plan, another might say is the same plan being executed differently.
Has the plan changed?
I think the emphasis on where the lines sit has changed.
I don't think the plans have changed all that much, although I dont think the game plans really differ much anyway. What changes is where your opposition lets you have space. How you move in relation to them arguably has a bigger impact than anything else. The other thing that changes is the personnell executing the plan.
I don't think the plans have changed all that much, although I dont think the game plans really differ much. What changes is where your opposition lets you have space. How you move in relation to them arguably has a bigger impact than anything else.
Exactly, it can be as subtle as a small change in the timing.
I think JonHenry confuses something he hasn't seen before, something that is new to him, with something they haven't trained for already.
A more prudent observation would be to ask where did these small changes come from, and why weren't they initiated earlier. It could well be that Teague was offering this advice to tweak the plan to BB all along and BB chose to ignore it, if so BB's demise is on him!
I'm pretty sure that every team has a similar game plan....kick more goals than the opposition.
How they do that will differ from club to club.
Its all about the definition of a game plan and how nit picky you want to be about what that actually is.
Under Teague, we have played with a lot more freedom. Our setups have been different. Our use of players have been completely different.
Overall, thats enough of a game plan change to be significant IMO.
We've certainly moved the ball a lot more quickly, a lot more often!
'taken the game on' is the cliche?
We've certainly moved the ball a lot more quickly, a lot more often!
'taken the game on' is the cliche?
And we seem to be making a lot fewer mistakes and turnovers.
We've certainly moved the ball a lot more quickly, a lot more often!
'taken the game on' is the cliche?
Would you still perceive it that way if they were not hitting the targets?
Does less wasted disposal present the same perceived result?
And we seem to be making a lot fewer mistakes and turnovers.
It seems to me the more often you hit targets the less constrained you'll be about taking a risk, not the more risks you take the more you hit targets.
Teague's made a slight change in emphasis and he deserves a big tick.