We play a Sunday afternoon game against the Weagles next week, a Weagles outfit without NicNat.
After 5 wins in 7 games, and the 2 losses being by peanuts, it is hard to make a case for making changes to the team. Still, we did have some players who didn't do a lot. Lang, Deluca, Dow and McKay spring to mind.
Certainly Fisher will be back from illness next weekend, Fasolo is playing his best football for a long time and Stocker is looking impressive. Stocker is probably a fortnight off yet: he didn't play a full game yesterday after only half last week. He'll play a whole game next week, and if he can prove his fitness, he will be a great chance for a senior recall.
McGovern is going through his fitness bash at the moment and won't be far away either. Considering that we haven't seen his fit yet, he could be a unexpected positive in the weeks to come.
Dow is probably the most under the pump, as it is just not working for him at the moment. I would like to see him get a couple of weeks in the VFL and a couple of 20 - 30 possession games. It would do him wonders.
H is a bit of a worry at the moment. His kicking is atrocious at the moment and he isn't holding his marks or do as much defensive work as he had been doing. Had he been on yesterday, we could have won by a lot more. But it is his kicking: he really needs to get that into gear.
Lang may not have done a lot yesterday, but I was happy enough with his effort. He snapped a good goal and he put more pressure on that I've seen at any other time in his career at Carlton. I still want more, but I was not disappointed.
Another who didn't have a lot of the ball yesterday was O'Brien, but he was also not a passenger. He wasn't as good as he has been, but he was not beaten and did some very nice things.
Other than Kreuzer I can't see us changing the KPP mix, other than through injuries, it's about right at the moment.
When McGovern is fit he'll put pressure on McKay.
FWIW, I suspect well have to trade away one or two KPPs at season end, there is no space for them all and De Koning gets better each week in the VFL, you can't have guys like Phillips, Lobbe, McKay, Casboult, De Koning, McGovern playing VFL on a regular basis and expect to retain them all. It's just reality, especially if SoJ and Cripps keep kicking goals, as well as midfield capable types like Setterfield and Kennedy.
Maybe you go Fasolo for Kennedy, but Fasolo brings relatively little inside pressure and won't tackle like a Kennedy. At this stage I think Kennedy stays just due to the age and long term outlook. I thought Fasolo's good game yesterday really came off the back of hard work by the younger types like Owies, Stocker, Cottrell, (as well as NBs listed guys like Fisher) doing the hard work up the field.
If Dow is an out I suspect Stocker might be an in, he didn't do that much but what he did was a class above if they think his fitness is up to scratch, but I'd say on form Cottrell looked the most likely of the candidates yesterday.
I can't see us taking too much run out of the side, it's the outside run that lets Cripps, SPS, Ed and sMurph and Setterfield function.
Weagles currently sit top 2, and have barely broken out of 2nd gear all season. They flexed some muscle yesterday, and are looking really good. I reckon it will be a Tigers - Eagles GF, with Tigers winning.
Eagles by 6 goals.
Good on you Paul.
We inevitably play well against the Eagles and they are missing numerous best 22 types - Hutchings (their only real stopper), Cripps, Duggan, Veneables.
And no NicNat - heck, Allen was doing some rucking yesterday. Hickey had 12 hitouts only....
Hurn may be back but won't have played in a month.
Last 3 results - 10, 17 and 7 points - Eagles way.
Last game at Marvel in 2014 we won by 3.
Blues to dominate the midfield battles - and win by 33.
Eagles have a seriously strong backline which we will struggle with - we really need Harry to force as many contests as possible. They also have a 3-prong marking forward line (Kennedy, Darling, Allen) so Plowman/Newman will need to play tall this week. And I don't think Mr Cripps will be offered a free-rein like last Saturday.
Having said that, belief and confidence can do amazing things.
I reckon we will be competitive, but fall 15-25 points short. We have to remember that this mob are the reigning Premiers and a serious chance for back-to-back. As long as we are in the game, we will be able to take positives from the outcome.
Eagles have a seriously strong backline which we will struggle with - we really need Harry to force as many contests as possible. They also have a 3-prong marking forward line (Kennedy, Darling, Allen) so Plowman/Newman will need to play tall this week. And I don't think Mr Cripps will be offered a free-rein like last Saturday.
Having said that, belief and confidence can do amazing things.
I reckon we will be competitive, but fall 15-25 points short. We have to remember that this mob are the reigning Premiers and a serious chance for back-to-back. As long as we are in the game, we will be able to take positives from the outcome.
Don't agree:
B Brad Sheppard, Tom Barrass, Will Schofield
HB Lewis Jetta, Jeremy McGovern, Jackson Nelson
Sheppard not a patch on what he was last year and the general - Guv #2 - has been hobbling and could do with a rest.
Jetta aside, they lack pace big time.
But yeah, well drilled etc and their mids run both ways well.
And Allen's only 191cm, plenty of cover for him!
Weagles currently sit top 2, and have barely broken out of 2nd gear all season. They flexed some muscle yesterday, and are looking really good. I reckon it will be a Tigers - Eagles GF, with Tigers winning.
Eagles by 6 goals.
Eagles have been up and down and despite their record haven't looked as hungry as last year. Happy to see they have won their last two as they might not come out as hungry. They lacked that hunger alot in that last half against Collingwood. Weren't that great against Melbourne either. We won't be favourites but we're a decent chance. 5 interstates down under Teague, may as well make it 6.
Reckon it'll be the Tiges v Cats.
Don't agree:
B Brad Sheppard, Tom Barrass, Will Schofield
HB Lewis Jetta, Jeremy McGovern, Jackson Nelson
Sheppard not a patch on what he was last year and the general - Guv #2 - has been hobbling and could do with a rest.
Jetta aside, they lack pace big time.
But yeah, well drilled etc and their mids run both ways well.
And Allen's only 191cm, plenty of cover for him!
They have the third-lowest points against this season. Also, Shannon Hurn will come in this week.
They have Barass and Schofield for McKay/Casboult, so McGovern will have an intercepting picnic if we don't work around him.
And their back-half won them the GF last year - Pies couldn't find a goal to save themselves.......
They have the third-lowest points against this season. Also, Shannon Hurn will come in this week.
They have Barass and Schofield for McKay/Casboult, so McGovern will have an intercepting picnic if we don't work around him.
And their back-half won them the GF last year - Pies couldn't find a goal to save themselves.......
Pies did find many 2 weeks ago though against them.
They have the third-lowest points against this season. Also, Shannon Hurn will come in this week.
They have Barass and Schofield for McKay/Casboult, so McGovern will have an intercepting picnic if we don't work around him.
And their back-half won them the GF last year - Pies couldn't find a goal to save themselves.......
Interesting thought that the Hawks backline has only conceded 29 more points this year!
Hurn? Well good luck coming back from a calf in 2 weeks!
Their form has not been great - Dees almost got them, Hawks lost by a goal.
It's very winnable in Melbourne.
Bookies:
WCE 1.37
CFC 3.10
Remarkably similar numbers.....
I reckon Rioli and Ryan are the key threats.
We usually play WC pretty well in Melbourne even when in wooden spoon form.
I like our chances this weekend.
Their small forwards will be a dangerous prospect for us. If Kreuzer comes in, any chance we keep him and Phillips to ruck and leave Levi permanently forward or floating between forward line and backline? I thought Phillips was good on the weekend. If Fisher is fit he probably comes in for Down. Stocker would be a good option down back but a lack of game time recently might keep him in the VFL for another week.
Harry and Levi will find Barass and McG difficult. At the other end their small forwards are a real concern. They have those days were they kick a lot of points and straight out shanks. Hopefully they have one of those off days.
Their small forwards will be a dangerous prospect for us. If Kreuzer comes in, any chance we keep him and Phillips to ruck and leave Levi permanently forward or floating between forward line and backline? I thought Phillips was good on the weekend. If Fisher is fit he probably comes in for Down. Stocker would be a good option down back but a lack of game time recently might keep him in the VFL for another week.
Kreuzer and Levi can do the job in the ruck. Levi's rucking better than at anytime in his career, just like everything else right now. Two rucks never works for us as neither are good up forward. Go with our strengths, not the other side's strengths.
Harry and Levi will find Barass and McG difficult. At the other end their small forwards are a real concern. They have those days were they kick a lot of points and straight out shanks. Hopefully they have one of those off days.
We've had 11 goalkickers both the last 2 weeks so the other mob will have more than harry and Levi to worry about. Of the top 4 West Coast are the most beatable.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-29/how-do-eagles-stop-cripps-mouthwatering-matchup-awaits
Should be AA captain.
Other than Kreuzer I can't see us changing the KPP mix, other than through injuries, it's about right at the moment.
When McGovern is fit he'll put pressure on McKay.
FWIW, I suspect well have to trade away one or two KPPs at season end, there is no space for them all and De Koning gets better each week in the VFL, you can't have guys like Phillips, Lobbe, McKay, Casboult, De Koning, McGovern playing VFL on a regular basis and expect to retain them all. It's just reality, especially if SoJ and Cripps keep kicking goals, as well as midfield capable types like Setterfield and Kennedy.
Maybe you go Fasolo for Kennedy, but Fasolo brings relatively little inside pressure and won't tackle like a Kennedy. At this stage I think Kennedy stays just due to the age and long term outlook. I thought Fasolo's good game yesterday really came off the back of hard work by the younger types like Owies, Stocker, Cottrell, (as well as NBs listed guys like Fisher) doing the hard work up the field.
If Dow is an out I suspect Stocker might be an in, he didn't do that much but what he did was a class above if they think his fitness is up to scratch, but I'd say on form Cottrell looked the most likely of the candidates yesterday.
I can't see us taking too much run out of the side, it's the outside run that lets Cripps, SPS, Ed and sMurph and Setterfield function.
The Jacobs, Kreuzer and Hampson conundrum was a disaster and trading one of Kreuzer, DeKoning, Casboult or McKay has the potential to do more harm than good. Given our injury track record if we retain all four mentioned we can be fairly sure that for the most part only two will be available at any one time.
Let’s hope sense prevails and Lobbe and Philips are first cabs off the rank.
JD...I think Lobbe will be delisted but we need backup with Kreuzer given his history with injuries and TDK is still developing....hence Phillips probably gets another year. Kreuzer with backup from Levi Casboult is still the best option for now. I haven't seen McKay do enough in any games where he's rucked to justify that combination. He gets pushed off it too easily.
I agree. Has anyone been to training recently and seen whether or not McKay is doing ruck training?
WEST COAST
Patrick Bines Hernia Test
Jamie Cripps Adductor 1 week
Liam Duggan Ankle Test
Harry Edwards Foot Test
Shannon Hurn Calf Test
Mark Hutchings Hamstring Test
Nic Naitanui Ankle Indefinite
Josh Smith Hamstring 4-6 weeks
Daniel Venables Concussion Season
Updated: Tuesday, July 30
Early prognosis
Hurn, Hutchings, Duggan and Cripps ticked the boxes getting through skills work on Tuesday morning and none of them appeared restricted in any way during the 45-minute session. Cripps might be the only one unavailable with his return scheduled against Adelaide in round 21. Star midfielder Luke Shuey was on light duties jogging laps but doesn't appear in significant doubt six days out from the Carlton clash at Marvel Stadium. - Travis King
Will be stoked if they rush in Hurn, Hutchings and Duggan.
Hurn's had a 2 week calf, Hutchings been out for a month with a hammy.
Duggan - an ankle, they said on July 9 (3 weeks ago) it would be a 5-6 week injury....
PANIC?
Other than Kreuzer I can't see us changing the KPP mix, other than through injuries, it's about right at the moment.
When McGovern is fit he'll put pressure on McKay.
FWIW, I suspect well have to trade away one or two KPPs at season end, there is no space for them all and De Koning gets better each week in the VFL, you can't have guys like Phillips, Lobbe, McKay, Casboult, De Koning, McGovern playing VFL on a regular basis and expect to retain them all. It's just reality, especially if SoJ and Cripps keep kicking goals, as well as midfield capable types like Setterfield and Kennedy.
Maybe you go Fasolo for Kennedy, but Fasolo brings relatively little inside pressure and won't tackle like a Kennedy. At this stage I think Kennedy stays just due to the age and long term outlook. I thought Fasolo's good game yesterday really came off the back of hard work by the younger types like Owies, Stocker, Cottrell, (as well as NBs listed guys like Fisher) doing the hard work up the field.
If Dow is an out I suspect Stocker might be an in, he didn't do that much but what he did was a class above if they think his fitness is up to scratch, but I'd say on form Cottrell looked the most likely of the candidates yesterday.
I can't see us taking too much run out of the side, it's the outside run that lets Cripps, SPS, Ed and sMurph and Setterfield function.
Fasolo has been playing midfield in the twos and played the role very well. Don't see him playing this week but he's another who's had a change of position to his benefit.
JD...I think Lobbe will be delisted but we need backup with Kreuzer given his history with injuries and TDK is still developing....hence Phillips probably gets another year. Kreuzer with backup from Levi Casboult is still the best option for now. I haven't seen McKay do enough in any games where he's rucked to justify that combination. He gets pushed off it too easily.
Lobbe will likely be a delisting as De Koning will be another year into development and be ready to play more seniors next year, if there's a spot.
A run on the ball might help McKay just to get his hands on the ball although Levi is rucking the best he's ever had, as he had every else he's played. So you're not likely to change that.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-30/imposing-eagles-near-full-strength-with-classy-defenders-return
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-30/imposing-eagles-near-full-strength-with-classy-defenders-return
we'll see!
In: Goddard Fasolo Fisher Lobbe
No outs
I/C Newman, Fasolo, De Luca, Lobbe, Goddard, Murphy, Fisher, Dow.
CARLTON
B: Jacob Weitering, Liam Jones, Dale Thomas
HB: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Lachie Plowman, Kade Simpson
C: Lochie O'Brien, Patrick Cripps, Will Setterfield
HF: Michael Gibbons, Levi Casboult, Jack Silvagni
F: Darcy Lang, Harry McKay, Matthew Kennedy
R: Andrew Phillips, Sam Walsh, Ed Curnow
Int: Nic Newman, Marc Murphy, Josh Deluca, Zac Fisher, Hugh Goddard, Alex Fasolo, Matthew Lobbe, Paddy Dow (Four to be omitted)
IN: Zac Fisher, Hugh Goddard, Alex Fasolo, Matthew Lobbe
WEST COAST EAGLES
B: Shannon Hurn, Tom Barrass, Will Schofield
HB: Lewis Jetta, Jeremy McGovern, Brad Sheppard
C: Jack Redden, Luke Shuey, Dom Sheed
HF: Jack Petruccelle, Jack Darling, Willie Rioli
F: Liam Ryan, Josh J. Kennedy, Oscar Allen
R: Tom Hickey, Elliot Yeo, Andrew Gaff
Int: Jake Waterman, Chris Masten, Francis Watson, Tom Cole, Jackson Nelson, Bailey J. Williams, Mark Hutchings, Jarrod Cameron (Four to be omitted)
Most experts don't give us a chance this weekend, it's almost an upset in the making!
In recent years Hickey usually gives us a touch up, I suspect we can turn the tide this time around which will make it hard for the Wet Toast small ruck options, especially if Levi's good form continues.
They'll almost certainly tag Cripps.
Most experts don't give us a chance this weekend, it's almost an upset in the making!
In recent years Hickey usually gives us a touch up, I suspect we can turn the tide this time around which will make it hard for the Wet Toast small ruck options, especially if Levi's good form continues.
They'll almost certainly tag Cripps.
Walsh might get his first taste of big time football with WC tagger Hutchings for company all day, my guess is they will use Redden, Shuey and Yeo at the stoppages in rotation
on Cripps and try and work off him as soon as the ball is cleared.
I'd like two Ed Curnows, one for Yeo and one for Shuey, think the one and only might get Shuey ....
Yeo and Redden are a decent size, Hutchings, Shuey and literally midgets compared to Crippa....
Hutchings will be lukewarm after 3 weeks out with a hammy? Hurn had a calf - 2 weeks seems very light on?
Quite happy they've rushed back Hurn and Hutchings....they're worried.
We match up very well with WCE for some reason.
Walsh might get his first taste of big time football with WC tagger Hutchings for company all day, my guess is they will use Redden, Shuey and Yeo at the stoppages in rotation
on Cripps and try and work off him as soon as the ball is cleared.
I'd like two Ed Curnows, one for Yeo and one for Shuey, think the one and only might get Shuey ....
Yep, I agree with all that, the Wet Toast 1%er numbers have been good all season for their rotating midfielders, 2nd in the rankings.
I realise this can depend a bit on game style but Wet Toast have the mix of players that suggests team efforts, it's really an extension of how they finished off 2018. But no Vardy and Nic Nat this weekend, it's an opportunity.
Funnily, under Teague I'm starting to see some analogies between our list and theirs.
Yeo and Redden are a decent size, Hutchings, Shuey and literally midgets compared to Crippa....
Hutchings will be lukewarm after 3 weeks out with a hammy? Hurn had a calf - 2 weeks seems very light on?
Quite happy they've rushed back Hurn and Hutchings....they're worried.
We match up very well with WCE for some reason.
Teams at the pointy end of the ladder at this end of the year are not interested in rushing players back to win today. They want to rush them back to get them in prime condition come september.
I think West Coast believe they will account for us fairly easily.
I also think they will get a bit of a surprise against us. Brisbane aside (who we may have gotten a bit ahead of themselves at that point and considered it a fate accompli), we have yet to really knock off a decent side for quite some time so we will see what happens. Its a big test for us. I just hope we dont get too caught up in playing this one before we play it.
I think West Coast believe they will account for us fairly easily.
I've heard they are smack in the middle of a heavy training load pre-finals.
I've heard they are smack in the middle of a heavy training load pre-finals.
Which means what (serious question) in terms of current performance?
They'll be heavy legged, for example?
Which means what (serious question) in terms of current performance?
They'll be heavy legged, for example?
Yes exactly, this was also a reason being touted for the Filth's run of injuries and the Crows poor form, but it's normal for clubs bound for finals to be doing some extra training km about now.
I've no idea if is makes any real difference, but they have done it that way for years!
I've heard it suggested that perhaps the benefit isn't from actually doing the extra km but from no longer having to do them a few weeks before finals, a bit like the psychology of dragging goal kickers as a reward for effort!
DT has confirmed Fisher will play (no surprises).
Straight swap for Dow - the only change you'd think.
Can't see fas coming in for Kennedy, Lang or SoJ.
Yes exactly, this was also a reason being touted for the Filth's run of injuries and the Crows poor form, but it's normal for clubs bound for finals to be doing some extra training km about now.
I've no idea if is makes any real difference, but they have done it that way for years!
I've heard it suggested that perhaps the benefit isn't from actually doing the extra km but from no longer having to do them a few weeks before finals, a bit like the psychology of dragging goal kickers as a reward for effort!
https://www.aflvic.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Prescribing-In-Season-Training-Loads.pdf
good read on topic....
DT has confirmed Fisher will play (no surprises).
Straight swap for Dow - the only change you'd think.
Can't see fas coming in for Kennedy, Lang or SoJ.
Kennedy might have played out the game but he did hurt his ankle. No doubt he went off they strapped it and probably jabbed it too, and that might have got him through Saturday well, but he could possibly be worse now than he was immediately after doing it.
Those injuries are tricky. I did a 15k run a day after hurting an ankle during a match and then missed 4 weeks through injury a few years back.
The run was the run for the kids, and I did it in 1hour 25 mins.
Anyway, I would think getting players back now is an effort to get them finals ready rather than setting up to beat us. It gives us an advantage as they wont have much run.
DT has confirmed Fisher will play (no surprises).
Straight swap for Dow - the only change you'd think.
Can't see fas coming in for Kennedy, Lang or SoJ.
Could come in for Lang, he hasnt really impressed me and I'd be booting both of them at seasons end unless they can both show something..
Goddard for Liam Jones, who’s mother died this week.
Could come in for Lang, he hasnt really impressed me and I'd be booting both of them at seasons end unless they can both show something..
Fisher & Goddard in for Dow and Liam Jones (unavailable due to the passing of his mother).
Fisher & Goddard in for Dow and Liam Jones (unavailable due to the passing of his mother).
No Jones vs Kennedy and Darling...thats a tough ask for our other defenders....
Guess we'll learn a bit about Goddard on Sunday
Most experts don't give us a chance this weekend, it's almost an upset in the making!
I know we've just gone through our best patch in years, but reality is, we won the spoon last year and they won the flag.
Do you expect the experts to suggest anything else? Really??
No Jones vs Kennedy and Darling...thats a tough ask for our other defenders....
I wouldn't have dropped Dow - Deluca, Lang are more deserving and I thought that Dow, whilst not a heavy possession game last week, contested very well & has some x factor.
WIth McGovern, Dow, Cunnigham, Curnow, Jones all out we're looking very slow across the ground. Harder bodies in, but no pace.
got to balance pace in the side
S = slow runner, M = medium pace, F fast pace
SQ = slow decision maker; MQ medium decision; FQ - quick decision
CARLTON
B: Jacob Weitering (S & FQ), Hugh Goodard (S & ?), Dale Thomas (M & FQ)
HB: Sam Petrevski-Seton (M & FQ), Lachie Plowman (S & MQ), Kade Simpsonn (M & MQ)
C: Lochie O'Brien (M & MQ), Patrick Cripps (M & FQ), Will Setterfield (M & FQ)
HF: Michael Gibbons (M & MQ), Levi Casboult (M & MQ), Jack Silvagni (S & FQ)
F: Darcy Lang (M & MQ), Harry McKay (F & MQ), Matthew Kennedy (S & MQ)
R: Andrew Phillips (S & MQ), Sam Walsh (M & FQ), Ed Curnow (M & MQ)
Int: Nic Newman (M & MQ), Marc Murphy (M & FQ), Josh Deluca (M & MQ), Zac Fisher (F & FQ)
Fisher & Goddard in for Dow and Liam Jones (unavailable due to the passing of his mother).
A tough time for Liam. Sincere condolences.
I know we've just gone through our best patch in years, but reality is, we won the spoon last year and they won the flag.
Do you expect the experts to suggest anything else? Really??
I'm thinking - even when we were wooden spooners and they were premiers we still only lost by 10.
We're a shoe-in!
Still no Cunningham?
The guys greatest talent is turning a 2 week injury into 7 weeks.
I'm thinking - even when we were wooden spooners and they were premiers we still only lost by 10.
We're a shoe-in!
I'm not saying we can't win, but to expect anyone to think we should win is a bit far fetched.
Eagles are favourites, and should be. EOS.
I'm crossing my fingers as much as the next bloke, but i'm not optimistic.
A tough time for Liam. Sincere condolences.
Indeed.
Deepest sympathies.
Indeed.
Deepest sympathies.
That's heartbreaking for both Liam and his family.
I wouldn't have dropped Dow - Deluca, Lang are more deserving and I thought that Dow, whilst not a heavy possession game last week, contested very well & has some x factor.
WIth McGovern, Dow, Cunnigham, Curnow, Jones all out we're looking very slow across the ground. Harder bodies in, but no pace.
I'm a Dow fan but he has lost his way and is having trouble finding the ball on top of his kicking issues, like his pace and burst ability but I cant justify him getting a game
at the moment. He needs a couple of good ones in the NB's to rebuild his confidence.
I like Deluca too, knows his way around a footy oval but needs an AFL preseason, Lang doesnt do it for me and even though he has been better I dont see much
to get excited about. Cuningham is a loss as he kicks goals and gives us some zip and opportunistic skills, he is just one of those players who will
never play a long sequence of games and you just hope he is fit when the important games are on.
McGovern can play but we have looked more mobile and dangerous with Kennedy down forward IMO.
Dow has been ordinary - sometimes worse than ordinary - ALL year.
Should have been dropped circa Rd 5. Bad, bad player management.
A tough time for Liam. Sincere condolences.
Indeed. A very sad time for Liam and his family.
Sincere condolences.
Indeed. A very sad time for Liam and his family.
Sincere condolences.
x10. Tragic news.
A tough time for Liam. Sincere condolences.
Condolences from me too. It's a very tough time when you lose your Mum.
Sorry for he horrible news Liam. I know how you feel. Been there myself. I hope you have good people around you for support.
Sorry for he horrible news Liam. I know how you feel. Been there myself. I hope you have good people around you for support.
x 2
It trashed me for some time when my parents died. But that is another story ...
I'm hearing Thomas out, Schumacher to debut
I'm hearing Thomas out, Schumacher to debut
Either Daisy out, or Plowman potentially.
I'm hearing Thomas out, Schumacher to debut
That change now confirmed.
Not sure I like Voss being there with our people.
Not sure I like Voss being there with our people.
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Voss at the VFL watching on the fence with the President at one point.
That change now confirmed.
Why does Schumacher come in when he wasn’t in the best in the vfl last week? Stocker off a hbf not a better bet? What about Cottrell?
Don’t get it
Whoever Schumacher goes to will have a field day. Daisy is a smart player. Will leave a big gap.
Give weagles fwds a gap and we know what happens ????
Anyways. All the best to Schumacher on debut. Bring your best for 4 quarters son.
Go Blues (WC by 8 goals)
Voss at the VFL watching on the fence with the President at one point.
Is that for real.
How could that possibly sit well with Teague. ::)
Even if he was just there as a casual observer the President should be nowhere near him. >:(
If there is vision of that it will be all over the place next week.
Is that for real.
How could that possibly sit well with Teague. ::)
Even if he was just there as a casual observer the President should be no where near him. >:(
If there is vision of that it will be all over the place next week.
Agree.
Very poor if true
Did watch the Prez with Teague as well in a later shot.
I missed Voss, someone else pointed it out for me. I should've said that too.
That'd better be wrong ... for fat boy's sake
Voss at the VFL watching on the fence with the President at one point.
So he may be coaching the NBs next year? ;)
So he may be coaching the NBs next year? ;)
Or the fullback's cousin's niece's team.
In Mataranka ????
Gone through lots of social media sites to see if anyone saw it. Nothing so far.
I should've paid more attention to the game.
I'm thinking it's a case of mistaken identity. ;)
Koch has already had a dig at Voss for going to an interview with Carlton
If he's stayed a day in Melbourne and chose to go and watch the 'Carlton reserves' he'd be ropeable.
I'm thinking it's a case of mistaken identity. ;)
Koch has already had a dig at Voss for going to an interview with Carlton
If he's stayed a day in Melbourne and chose to go and watch the 'Carlton reserves' he'd be ropeable.
Hope so.