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Using these flaky numbers to calculate costs of power generation is a bit flawed. For instance every renewable doesn't calculate based on retiring and the carbon footprint to manufacture.  Apparently you can make renewable energy with no pollutants. 

Meanwhile over at nuclear energy land how many carbon offsets need to be calculated to gather the cost of said energy?

Oh look, one is more expensive than the other.

Its a junk comparison IMHO and fails to tell the story.

Using these flaky numbers to calculate costs of power generation is a bit flawed. For instance every renewable doesn't calculate based on retiring and the carbon footprint to manufacture.  Apparently you can make renewable energy with no pollutants. 

Meanwhile over at nuclear energy land how many carbon offsets need to be calculated to gather the cost of said energy?

Oh look, one is more expensive than the other.

Its a junk comparison IMHO and fails to tell the story.

Whole-life cost (WLC) is just that Thry.  It includes planning cost, initial cost, operational cost, maintenance burden and eventual deconstruction and disposal costs.

Which is a great example, fudging the numbers by making one source operate at peak capacity far longer than it really can, and the competitor systems redundant /decommissioned long before they are done.

@DJC , I understand why you take the position that you take, I get it, and I agree whole heartedly with the goals behind green energy, renewables and low carbon, but long term the public and political debate has to be genuine or it's going to end in energy anarchy. The end result of all sides selling the public gold painted turds!

The bottom line is that the decision-makers, that is, the corporates, banks, super funds, investors, economists, futurists, treasurers, heads of state, politburos, etc, have crunched the numbers and the end result is that they have decided that nuclear power is too expensive and has too great a lead time to make a meaningful difference to climate change.  There will be ongoing minor growth in funds spent on nuclear power as small modular reactors and/or molten salt reactors replace some conventional nuclear power plants but there are no signs of a major take up.  According to PwC's "The Future of Energy", it is unlikely that the global funds spent on nuclear power generation will rise above 12% of the total global power generation spend.

Pat Cummins has decided that Alinta energy are not green enough for him and seems to have convinced Cricket Australia to dump the Chinese Hong Kong based owned company as a sponsor.
Be interested to see how political and green he gets with his IPL team and all those rupees, of course the IPL is sponsored by those well known providers of crap cars and pollution in Tata Motors who have a large factory in Kolkata where he plays cricket for the Knightriders.
I believe the Dockers are being pressured to dump their lucrative Woodside sponsorship by ex players like Dale Kickett and others. Of course Woodside have had a bumper year and are overflowing in cash and Freo are looking at a nice rise in sponsorship money so a tad awkward for them.
Interesting times in the new Green world of Sport..

Lydia Thorpe lol.

Lydia Thorpe lol.

I guess she is the first bikie chick to become a Senator, small world with the Martin connection.
You would have to be very green in the job pardon the pun to think that connection wasnt going to surface at some stage in your career and bite you.

It's not so much the connection but her failure to disclose it that bit her on the moom.  It's all well and good to maintain the rage, but you have to be clever about how you do it and always follow process.