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Reply #330
Whatever else may come out of this, it shows IMO that Rinehart is an evil, vindictive cow. That $15M is chump change for her, and her bottom line would not be affected in the slightest by logo less jerseys. Just a bastard act.

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Reply #331
Rinehart pulled the sponsorship, isn't that what they wanted?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

 

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Reply #332
Whatever else may come out of this, it shows IMO that Rinehart is an evil, vindictive cow. That $15M is chump change for her, and her bottom line would not be affected in the slightest by logo less jerseys. Just a bastard act.
Same disgraceful human wanted to sack all her workers, import migrant labour and pay them $2 an hour.
Probably happy to save the sponsorship money...

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Reply #333
Same disgraceful human wanted to sack all her workers, import migrant labour and pay them $2 an hour.
Probably happy to save the sponsorship money...

I'm sure she thinks the $2 per hour is fantastically generous on her part.

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Reply #334
Rinehart pulled the sponsorship, isn't that what they wanted?

No.  One player didn't want to wear the Hancock logo but there was never a desire to ditch the sponsorship.  What was a show of solidarity with an Indigenous teammate was seized upon as an anti-mining, pro-environment protest, but that was never the intention.
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Reply #335
Whatever else may come out of this, it shows IMO that Rinehart is an evil, vindictive cow. That $15M is chump change for her, and her bottom line would not be affected in the slightest by logo less jerseys. Just a bastard act.
For the record, the company said they were happy to provide the money and never asked for a thankyou, never demanded the logo had to be worn. Its what happened since that pissed them off. They have made a statement as such. NA are a rablle, its unacceptable to treat sponsors (which are hard enough to get) like that.
As for comments her idiot father may have made, I dont think for a minute Hancock Co. or Gina R support or condone such views today. Lets move on. Or, do we we wipe her from the face of the Earth for those comments?
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Reply #336
For the record, the company said they were happy to provide the money and never asked for a thankyou, never demanded the logo had to be worn. Its what happened since that pissed them off. They have made a statement as such. NA are a rablle, its unacceptable to treat sponsors (which are hard enough to get) like that.
As for comments her idiot father may have made, I dont think for a minute Hancock Co. or Gina R support or condone such views today. Lets move on. Or, do we we wipe her from the face of the Earth for those comments?

It would seem to be a simple matter for Rinehart to issue a comment rejecting her father's beliefs but she has steadfastly refused despite countless opportunities to do so.  The Diamonds fiasco gave her yet another opportunity. 

Netball Australia is a rabble.  An issue that should have been settled behind closed doors was allowed to spin out of control; no-one is a winner and netball is a loser.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #337
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As for comments her idiot father may have made, I dont think for a minute Hancock Co. or Gina R support or condone such views today. Lets move on. Or, do we we wipe her from the face of the Earth for those comments?

Firstly, we don't know what her opinion is. There's little in the public domain that suggests she is different from her old man.

Secondly, I see no reason why we need to invoke extreme rhetoric to make a point.

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Reply #338
Firstly, we don't know what her opinion is. There's little in the public domain that suggests she is different from her old man.

Secondly, I see no reason why we need to invoke extreme rhetoric to make a point.

I assume when you say "we" you mean every and not just me? It seems to me the whole debate centers around extreme rhetoric.
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2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
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Reply #339
Good advice for NA would be to not crap where you eat!
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Reply #340
I assume when you say "we" you mean every and not just me? It seems to me the whole debate centers around extreme rhetoric.

My personal opinion is that people on the right politically take a cue from outlets like Fox and take things to an extreme, which I'm not sure is helpful. Nobody is suggesting that Rinehart be wiped from the earth for her old man's comments. You can't change the past. I suspect Wallam would have liked some dialogue, some acknowledgment from Rinehart about those comments, some give. Instead she got donuts.

IMO this was always going to be messy. As I stated earlier, sports are already in too deep, and the separation that needs to exist to allow Wallam's position to be effective and not suffer blowback no longer exists.

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Reply #341
My personal opinion is that people on the right politically take a cue from outlets like Fox and take things to an extreme, which I'm not sure is helpful. Nobody is suggesting that Rinehart be wiped from the earth for her old man's comments. You can't change the past. I suspect Wallam would have liked some dialogue, some acknowledgment from Rinehart about those comments, some give. Instead she got donuts.

IMO this was always going to be messy. As I stated earlier, sports are already in too deep, and the separation that needs to exist to allow Wallam's position to be effective and not suffer blowback no longer exists.
Paul the players went rogue, NA did SFA, here we are. Its poor leadership from NA that has caused this. I'm certain Wallam would have been given all the info she needed had proper professional courtesy had been followed. Its nothing to do with left, right, up down, its just common sense.
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Reply #342
Paul the players went rogue, NA did SFA, here we are. Its poor leadership from NA that has caused this. I'm certain Wallam would have been given all the info she needed had proper professional courtesy had been followed. Its nothing to do with left, right, up down, its just common sense.

It does seem like amateur hour at NA, but I still think it's poor from Rinehart to simply leave them stranded like that. She could've and should've focussed on the higher ideal of doing what's best for Netball, the future of the sport etc. Instead.............

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Reply #343
As for comments her idiot father may have made, I dont think for a minute Hancock Co. or Gina R support or condone such views today. Lets move on. Or, do we we wipe her from the face of the Earth for those comments?

You're not one for nuance are you GTC ?
"Hes my dad and I loved him to bits, but he was a product of different times" and IF pressed "No, i don't agree with that statement"
It's really not that hard is it ?
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Reply #344
It does seem like amateur hour at NA, but I still think it's poor from Rinehart to simply leave them stranded like that. She could've and should've focussed on the higher ideal of doing what's best for Netball, the future of the sport etc. Instead.............
The only way to "unstupid" stupid people (like NA) is to "hit" them where it hurts. Nuffs enough. They won't make the mistake again, trust me.
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2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time