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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 19 - Carlton vs Fremantle (Pre Contest Conundrums)
I'm not going to be confident until Brettie gives Freo the kiss of death.

Sorry mbb.....I've got nothing but good feelings about this week. Win this and we make the 8 on merit......very good feelings......

How you figure that Brettie? We are still relying on catching a game up on Port along the journey (which we can do against them in the last round).

No certainties to make the 8 at all.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 19 - Carlton vs Fremantle (Pre Contest Conundrums)
Rowe out, Casboult in, is a must. Rowe, unless he is on his own, can't take a mark, and even when on his own there is no guarantee. He also lacks in the area of a second effort. There is no second effort from Rowe at all. Casboult can mark and has no hesitation in crashing a pack when going for a mark. He is also a much better ruckman. Two things are holding him back.

His kicking for goal is atrocious, and he lacks fitness to run out a full game. If you have a look at his performances when he's played, he's virtually disappeared out of a game after half time. It's an are that demands he work on or his days at Senior level are numbered. But for the rest of the season, he is a far better bet than Sam.

Casboults kicking is CLEARLY worse than Rowes.

Fitness levels are on a par.

Their rucking is on a par.

Casboults marking is slightly better as is his pack crashing.

Rowes game against the Saints is better then anything Casboult has done this year.

FYI Rowe has kicked 8 goals in 7 games.
Casboutl has kicked 4 goals in 7 games.

Rowe also has more kicks, marks and disposals.

To say one is much better than the other is showing clear bias.

Surely you are not going to use the St Kilda game as a measuring stick Krud? St Kildas tall backs are undersized and under-skilled already and when the first choices in Fisher and Blake didn't play, any forward would have had a field day as Rowe did. Since then he's been shown up for what he is, a VFL player who is being kept for depth. Play Levi against St Kilda and that goal tally would turn in his favour.

Who is better GWS or Saints?

Casboult played against GWS and kicked 1.3

Alternatively, Rowe kicked 2.2 against the cats.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 19 - Carlton vs Fremantle (Pre Contest Conundrums)
Its a dilemma the MC face. Better conversion, or potentially more opportunities to convert.

But there's also the potential there that he will start to convert.

TBH I can't split the two but I'd give Rowe another go before I drop him. He played very well against the Saints and not so bad vs North. We need to give these talls a decent run at it. Rowe for another week and if he doesn't perform Cas for the rest of the year.

Long term, it seems easier to correct kicking issues then it is to convert a player to be an elite mark of the ball. So yes, ideally Casboult can improve his kicking and make the position his.

I don't think the potential that he will start to convert is something we factor in week to week, and neither should the MC.

@jimbo...
Can't recall casboults game against the bombers but he has never kicked more than 1 goal in a game this year. Rowe has done so on 2 occasions. (2 and 3) and has kicked twice as many goals by comparison.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 19 - Carlton vs Fremantle (Pre Contest Conundrums)
But where there can be no dispute at all, in my biased opinion, of course, is marking. Rowe isn't a patch on Casboult in contested marking. Casboult has proven himself capable of taking a pack mark around the ground, Rowe hasn't. I have got nothing but enormous admiration for Sam Rowe, and I hope he can have a long and healthy career as an AFL footballer.

Anyway, I'm happy to agree to disagree.
Despite your beliefs on bias, i do not believe i am bias one way or the other on casboult or rowe. Some people will say i am one way. Some will say i am bias the other way.

Your initial comment was that Casboult MUST come in because of his marking. I agree he is a better pack mark.

What i am disagreeing with is that a better mark means more importance to the team.

What is more important to the team?

A player who kicks at 50% in front of goal but gets slightly more opportunities
or
A player who converts more often than not from slightly less opportunites.

Its a dilemma the MC face. Better conversion, or potentially more opportunities to convert.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 19 - Carlton vs Fremantle (Pre Contest Conundrums)
Rowe out, Casboult in, is a must. Rowe, unless he is on his own, can't take a mark, and even when on his own there is no guarantee. He also lacks in the area of a second effort. There is no second effort from Rowe at all. Casboult can mark and has no hesitation in crashing a pack when going for a mark. He is also a much better ruckman. Two things are holding him back.

His kicking for goal is atrocious, and he lacks fitness to run out a full game. If you have a look at his performances when he's played, he's virtually disappeared out of a game after half time. It's an are that demands he work on or his days at Senior level are numbered. But for the rest of the season, he is a far better bet than Sam.

Casboults kicking is CLEARLY worse than Rowes.

Fitness levels are on a par.

Their rucking is on a par.

Casboults marking is slightly better as is his pack crashing.

Rowes game against the Saints is better then anything Casboult has done this year.

FYI Rowe has kicked 8 goals in 7 games.
Casboutl has kicked 4 goals in 7 games.

Rowe also has more kicks, marks and disposals.

To say one is much better than the other is showing clear bias.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 19 - Carlton vs Fremantle (Pre Contest Conundrums)
We now have a game plan and a team of players that are capable of absorbed the intense pressure the dockers put on teams.

If we are able to kick relatively straight and maintain a fit group out on the field, it will be a close match.

If we get the above and the 3 amigos are on song, then we will flog them as they, like most, won't be able to stop all of them.

I suspect it will be somewhere in the middle. A closeish match which we sneak a win out of.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 18 : Blues Scorch Suns (Post-Siren Sunburn)
Rowe and Casboult have "promised" a lot.
...as has Hampson in the past.

All have shown promise but......
None have yet proven to be more than just fillers.
Henderson's shown that up in just a couple of games.
I don't think any are a long term answer to that second forward/ruck role.

I agree, but neither has Warnock.

Kreuzer up forward isn't much better than the players mentioned above.
Warnock up forward is about as useful as a 3rd goal post.

Warnock in the ruck gives us little improvement to when we have Kreuzer there.

What is the net benefit?


I guess its the sum of the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Which is clearly evident when we have been able to utilise Watson in the side who was only average in the 2's.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: RD 18 : Blues Scorch Suns (Post-Siren Sunburn)
Rowe was very unconvincing today.
He has no second effort, and if not on his terms, sometimes even no first effort.
Can take a mark when he wants, but he is a bit too stand offish for mine.
Bottom line....

If Warnock's fit and available Rowe doesn't play.

I would also like to disagree with this.

I'd have Rowe in over Warnock.
I'd have Rowe in over Hampson.
I'd have Hampson in over Warnock.

Essentially Warnock is a 1-trick pony and having him in the side reduces the effectiveness of Kreuzer.

Ideally i think you need 6 big men in the side.

You'd want a spine consisting of something like...
Jamison
Watson
Kreuzer
Henderson
Waite

with Hampson/Rowe/Casboult as the utility tall backup ruckman on the bench.

That gives us flexibility as Henderson can cover down back.
Hampson/Rowe/Casboult can cover up forward or in the ruck.

Gives us the option of subbing out a tall late in the game if they are not required and adding more run.

Warnock only gets a game if Kreuzer is out IMO as he needs to be the #1 ruck.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Rd 18 Pre game ponderings: Holiday on the Gold Coast or Disaster at Carrarra?
Can't see any mids being dropped really, so where does that leave Robbo and/or Graham?

I'd swap graham for cachia this week.

Cachia probably needs a rest

Perhaps they were giving Cachia a break by being the sub against the Roos?  We might need Cachia to close down Ablett or are you thinking of Curnow or Carrots for that job.


I like Cachia on Ablett for sure. Better Ablett get 33 hard fought possies than 49 damaging ones.

Not too sure how good cachias tank is, but we all know how good curnows is. He'd be my first priority to take on Ablett.
Put cachia on omeara.