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Title: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 06, 2023, 06:18:21 pm
https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1070840/carlton-aflw-trade-tarni-brown-collingwood-celine-moody-western-bulldogs-mua-laloifi-sydney

Seems we are linked with every (wo)man and their dog.

My request for a clone of bri moody is likely to come true with us trying to get her twin sister Celine accross from the dogs.

Pies Father/daughter Tarni Brown is another recruit likely to come over.

Duursma sister wants to come over.

Pritchard and Arehns also possibilities.

Unfortunately, Mua Laloifi is set to leave. For whatever reason her performances last season were not up to scratch. Add that to her multiple concussions and perhaps thats why the club are not offering her another contract? Will be hard seeing her in another uniform as she was universally loved.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 06, 2023, 06:24:57 pm
Former Carlton players Maddi Gay and Charlotte Wilson are both looking to get out of the demons as well.

Jess Hosking has been given the flick by the tigers. We could do worse with targetting her back, but dont think shes on our radar.

Thankfully Abbie McKay has signed up for another few years today.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: crashlander on December 06, 2023, 09:00:35 pm
Former Carlton players Maddi Gay and Charlotte Wilson are both looking to get out of the demons as well.

Jess Hosking has been given the flick by the tigers. We could do worse with targetting her back, but dont think shes on our radar.

Thankfully Abbie McKay has signed up for another few years today.
Charlotte Wilson was pretty good for Melbourne this season; she had finally returned to something of the form she showed with us early in her career. I think Melbourne will miss her.
Melbourne, after years of keeping the list more or less intact, is suffering hugely, with a lot of players looking to play elsewhere. Money? Possibly. Maybe they think Melbourne has peaked and is on a downwards trend?

I am disappointed to see Mua go, but her form this year was ... ordinary, to say the least.

I don't quite see the need for Celine Moody, who has never reached the heights her sister has. We have quite a good second ruck in Jess Good. However, it does give us some marking power.

I understand the need to improve our list, but what are we going to lose to get these potential ins?
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 08, 2023, 11:12:04 am
On the AFLW website a 'staff writer' has made a few mistakes in the Hosking article.

https://www.afl.com.au/aflw/news/1070848/sisters-left-shattered-after-aflw-tigers-surprise-jess-hosking-call
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Both Hosking sisters were inaugural AFLW players with Carlton before moving to the Tigers when they entered the competition ahead of the 2020 season.
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Sarah faces the prospect of a first AFLW season without her sister in the same side and said on this week's episode of Tagged that she was firmly focused on supporting Jess as she seeks a place on another AFLW list.

(https://resources.afl.com.au/photo-resources/2023/08/07/2182c3c6-6827-4e4a-abf3-b03d28f9aaf6/R3iiCdWB.jpg?width=1064&height=600)

It reflects really poorly on the legitimacy of this competition when their own website makes basic mistakes.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: DJC on December 08, 2023, 11:42:54 am
On the AFLW website a 'staff writer' has made a few mistakes in the Hosking article.

It reflects really poorly on the legitimacy of this competition when their own website makes basic mistakes.

I think that’s symptomatic of the “close enough is good enough” attitude that seems to prevail in most media formats.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 08, 2023, 02:53:12 pm
First trade done and dusted for us.
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Carlton receive:
Yasmin Duursma and round two pick (currently Pick 25)

Port Adelaide receive:
Round one pick (currently Pick 21)

Not bad taking a former pick 5, while only moving back 4 spots in the 20's.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 08, 2023, 02:55:31 pm
Other trades....
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Western Bulldogs receive:
Zimmorlei Farquharson

Brisbane Lions receive:
third-round pick (currently No.41)

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Hawthorn receive:
Casey Sherriff, Eliza West and round one pick (currently pick 16)

Melbourne receive:
Round one pick (currently Pick 5) and round two pick (currently Pick 26)

Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: crashlander on December 08, 2023, 05:43:18 pm
Other trades....
Fremantle receive: Aisling McCarthy

West Coast Eagles receive: Roxanne Roux and round 2 pick (currently 27)
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: crashlander on December 08, 2023, 05:44:41 pm
Libby Birch has requested a trade to North Melbourne, instead of the Bulldogs: a last minute coup.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: crashlander on December 11, 2023, 07:27:03 pm
A few new deals:

[1] 4 club swap where we get Tarni Brown from Collingwood.

Carlton receives: Tarni Brown and round three pick (currently No.48)

Carlton gives: Paige Trudgeon, Annie Lee, round three pick (currently No.47)

Collingwood receives: Annie Lee, round two pick (currently No.31) and round three pick (currently No.59)

Collingwood gives:  Tarni Brown and round three pick (No.48)

North Melbourne receives:  Round three pick (currently No.47)

North Melbourne gives:  Round three pick (currently No.52) and round three pick (currently No.59)

St Kilda receives:  Paige Trudgeon and round three pick (currently No.52)

St Kilda gives:  Round two pick (currently No.31)

I reckon we've given up more than most in this deal, although both Trudgeon and Lee struggled for games this season.

[2] Sydney & Brisbane:
Sydney Swans receive: Kiara Hillier

Brisbane Lions receive: Round four pick (currently No.73)

[3] Birch leaving Melbourne is news.
North Melbourne receive: Libby Birch and round two pick (currently No.35)

Melbourne receive: Round one pick (currently No.19)

[4] Pick Swap
Collingwood receive: Round one pick (currently No.9)

Richmond receive: Round one pick (currently No.11) and round two pick (currently No.29)
Collingwood must have someone in mind.

Mua has asked to go the Dogs, which is almost certain to happen. A big pickup for the Dogs.
Celine Moody has requested a trade to us. Shouldn't be a problem, given her injury issues.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 12, 2023, 10:59:34 am
GWS receives:
Mikayla Pauga and round four pick (currently No.73)

Brisbane Lions receive:
Round two pick (currently No.24)
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 12, 2023, 11:00:50 am
I think Pies won the 4-way deal.

Got Lee + 2nd round pick
Lost Brown and moved 3rd round pick back 9 spots.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 12, 2023, 11:02:26 am
Carlton receives:
Celine Moody

Carlton gives:
Vaomua Laloifi and a second-round pick (currently No.25)

North Melbourne receives:
A second-round pick (currently No.25)

North Melbourne gives:
Ellie Gavalas

Western Bulldogs receive:
Ellie Gavalas and Vaomua Laloifi

Western Bulldogs give:
Celine Moody
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 12, 2023, 11:04:16 am
I reckon we gave up too much compared to the other clubs.

But since we chose to not give Mua a contract at all, perhaps using her value was a bonus.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: LP on December 12, 2023, 11:06:12 am
That seems expensive.

But it's a potential type deal.

Celine was thought of by many to be the better prospect when the sisters were younger but sport wasn't her priority. Injuries and career interruptions have curtailed her progress, but maybe time is right and the reunion with her sister will be the trigger for bigger and better.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: LP on December 12, 2023, 11:08:02 am
I reckon we gave up too much compared to the other clubs.
Might also be a bit about preserving Brea's career, I'm not sure what Celine's physical status is but that might not matter.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 12, 2023, 11:12:38 am
We've lost a whole heap of talls, or players that play tall.

All out...
McWilliams
Milford
Trudgeon
and Laloifi who often played CHB for us.

Its good to get a genuine tall in. It also gives us plenty of versatility with what we have.

Now with Good and Moody (x2) we have 1 for each area, forward, back and ruck (midfield) and they can switch about as required.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: LP on December 12, 2023, 11:32:45 am
Now with Good and Moody (x2) we have 1 for each area, forward, back and ruck (midfield) and they can switch about as required.
When we took Good many thought it was a bit of a low probability experiment, but I think we've hit the jackpot on that one as Good with relatively little exposure has turned out to be above average having some significant moments / quarters. Another pre-season and she it likely to string together whole games.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 12, 2023, 12:49:12 pm
When we took Good many thought it was a bit of a low probability experiment, but I think we've hit the jackpot on that one as Good with relatively little exposure has turned out to be above average having some significant moments / quarters. Another pre-season and she it likely to string together whole games.

Thanks to Kez for that one.

Old basketball mates.
Key was trying to get her down for years. Finally accepted and we are reaping the benefits
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: crashlander on December 13, 2023, 03:21:51 pm
Gold Coast Suns receive:
Ella Smith and a third-round pick (currently No.59)

Gold Coast Suns give: Kalinda Howarth

Brisbane Lions receive: A fourth-round pick (currently No.68)

Brisbane Lions give: Ella Smith

Collingwood receives: Kalinda Howarth

Collingwood give: A third-round pick (currently No.59) and a fourth-round pick (currently No.68

Another trade where the prices are not high. Seems to be a trend in the AFLW: borderline players leave for greener pastures, often before they've had a chance to develop. Probably one of the reasons for it is the lack of long term deals that a club can make. Only recently have there been ANY long term deals possible, which does nothing for player retention.

Gold Coast Suns receive: Two second-round picks (currently No.35 and No.38)

North Melbourne receives: A second-round pick (currently No.27)
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: LP on December 13, 2023, 05:08:18 pm
Seems to be a trend in the AFLW: borderline players leave for greener pastures, often before they've had a chance to develop. 
No matter what the assertions are, AFLW is very different from AFL. Some aspects of AFLW still seem very semi-professional, which always exposes itself as a chicken and egg debate when you talk dollar$ and contracts.

If AFL was like AFLW, we'd have the McKay twins in house with the Hollands, Fisher and Cripps would be a package deal, Setterfield would still be at Carlton.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 13, 2023, 06:19:48 pm
Brisbane Lions receive:
Shanae Davison, Eleanor Hartill, a second-round pick (currently No.36) and a third-round pick (currently No.57)

Brisbane Lions give:
Bella Smith, two second-round picks (currently No.24 and 32), and a third-round pick (currently No.41)

Geelong receives:
Bella Smith, a second-round pick (currently No.32) and third-round pick (currently No.41)

Geelong gives:
Annabel Johnson, a second-round pick (No.36) and a third-round pick (No.57)

West Coast Eagles receive:
Annabel Johnson and a second-round pick (currently No.24)

West Coast Eagles give:
Shanae Davison and Eleanor Hartill
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: crashlander on December 14, 2023, 02:18:49 pm
A busy day, but we are not appearing to be in contention.

Deal 1:
GWS receives: Courtney Murphy and a second-round pick (currently No.39)

Brisbane Lions receives: A second-round pick (currently No.34)

Deal 2:
GWS receives: Aliesha Newman and a second-round pick (currently No.34)

Sydney Swans receive: A second-round pick (currently No.30)

Deal 3:
Sydney Swans receive: Giselle Davies

Gold Coast Suns receive: A third-round pick (currently No.55)

Deal 4:
Essendon receives: Bess Keaney and a fourth-round pick (currently No.72)

Gold Coast Suns receive: a third-round pick (currently No.53)

Deal 5:
Richmond receives: Jodie Hicks, Ally Dallaway and a third-round pick (currently No.43)

GWS receives: A second-round pick (currently No.30) and a fourth-round pick (currently No.69)

There is supposed to be some sort of megadeal going on as well, with 11 clubs. But not us.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: kruddler on December 14, 2023, 05:23:13 pm
To end trade period we have the deal to end all deals.

11 teams, 12 players, 24 picks,  1 trade  :o
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Super Mega Trade
Adelaide
In: Picks 22, 26 and 33
Out: Montana McKinnon, Picks 18, 37 and 40

Brisbane
In: Picks 21, 31 and 46
Out: Analea McKee, Pick 12

Collingwood
In: Mikayla Hyde, Pick 29
Out: Ash Brazill, Pick 31

Essendon
In: Maddi Gay, Picks 19 and 37
Out: Picks 13 and 33

Fremantle
In: Ash Brazill, Gabby Newton, Pick 61
Out: Mikayla Hyde, Picks 6, 46 and 51

Gold Coast
In: Katie Lynch, Charlotte Wilson, Pick 44
Out: Lauren Ahrens, Jasmyn Smith, Picks 14 and 38

Melbourne
In: Lily Johnson, Picks 12, 23 and 40
Out: Maddi Gay, Charlotte Wilson, Picks 19, 26 and 56

Port Adelaide
In: Kirsty Lamb, Picks 18, 24 and 56
Out: Lily Johnson, Picks 4, 21 and 44

Richmond
In: Montana McKinnon, Pick 13
Out: Picks 11 and 29

West Coast
In: Picks 14 and 38
Out: Picks 23 and 24

Western Bulldogs
In: Lauren Ahrens, Jasmyn Smith, Analea McKee, Picks 4, 6, 11 and 51
Out: Gabby Newton, Katie Lynch, Kirsty Lamb, Picks 22 and 61
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: crashlander on December 16, 2023, 10:40:48 am
West Coast have selected Jess Hosking as a delisted free agent. Nice to see Jess continue her career. I wasn't happy when the twins abandoned us.
Title: Re: AFLW silly season - trade period starts 7/12/23
Post by: crashlander on December 16, 2023, 10:33:49 pm
GWS have picked up Daisy Walker and Claire Ransom (ex-GC) as delisted free agents.
Other clubs do like our girls.