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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Agree. Ollie is not a problem and while he is not perfect im far more concerned at the lack of defensive effort from the reigning coleman medalist.

He is lazy selfish and needs to improve that side of his game imo.
Agree...been a bit of video footage on TV regarding his lack of second efforts and he needs to improve that part of his game.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by shawny -
For a team that has consistently lacked run and effort lately, i'm not sure why people feel the need to drop Ollie Hollands.

He gives 100%, 100% of the time. He is not the problem.

If we start dropping people based on output, how far down our team do we get before we get to Ollie Hollands.....and how far down are VFL team to do we get before we find a replacement.
I'll save the effort. There is nothing better below. Ollie stays.


Agree. Ollie is not a problem and while he is not perfect im far more concerned at the lack of defensive effort from the reigning coleman medalist.

He is lazy selfish and needs to improve that side of his game imo.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by pertz -
From the SEN Website re Friday's game.
Nothing new here....
What they got wrong
Carlton’s midfield is too slow
Sydney isn’t the first team to exploit Carlton when they play all of Cripps, Kennedy and Hewett, but it was particularly evident on Friday night.
The Swans did as they pleased at centre bounces and when the ball went their way, they were off to the races.
Carlton clearly noticed the issue, trying Corey Durdin on-ball at stages, but that’s not the answer either.
The Blues need more dynamic players in the middle and Elijah Hollands is surely the one to receive a few opportunities in Adam Cerra’s absence.
Too many forwards don’t touch the footy
Corey Durdin and Orazio Fantasia both played full games of footy on Thursday night for a combined 10 disposals, four tackles and 0.1.
Tom De Koning also spent 80 per cent of the game forward as Marc Pittonet assumes full control of the ruck – De Koning had six disposals, one mark and didn’t hit the scoreboard.
Carlton needs to revamp their forward mix and needs desperately to hope Lachie Fogarty and Jesse Motlop are available to return this weekend.
The Blues also should go back to one ruckman and try to get their forward-half pressure game back, given it has dropped away significantly.
Nic Negrepontis


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Saad is very good under pressure, usually finds a target  and can alter his decision making and find alternative targets quickly on different angles. I think Boyd is a good kick but is better when he is in the clear and heading forward, for a VFL unknown player I have warmed to Boyd and think he is in our best 22/23 and happy to give Austin a tick for his recruiting.
As have I, all I'm saying is to my eye, his kicking isn't elite.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Saad is very good under pressure, usually finds a target  and can alter his decision making and find alternative targets quickly on different angles. I think Boyd is a good kick but is better when he is in the clear and heading forward, for a VFL unknown player I have warmed to Boyd and think he is in our best 22/23 and happy to give Austin a tick for his recruiting.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
Last post by LP -
However, i do know that Hollands (with Walsh and Cottrell) do more km's a match than everyone else in the team.
For me the only thing we need Ollie to polish up on is his disposal, making quicker decisions so he is not getting pegged with the footy, and hitting more targets. Even so his DE% isn't too bad, but once or twice a game he has a shocker that costs us on the turnover.

I'd love to see some Diesel sessions with some of our blokes to get the handball crisp and decisive.

I won't mentioned who my preferred out would be, it seems to be an emotional issue for some.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by Gointocarlton -
I think Boyd has a done a decent job in filling in for Saad and even Cincotta defensively but we miss that rebound and accurate  kicking that Saad provides as it breaks up the play and those quick switches across ground often lead to thrusts forward where our big key forwards can be one out.
Defensively he has shown desperation and a willingness to defend dourly (as per his effort to cop a kick in the face v the Swans). His kicking, IMO, is not as elite as its made out to be.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
Last post by LP -
I think Boyd has a done a decent job in filling in for Saad and even Cincotta defensively but we miss that rebound and accurate  kicking that Saad provides as it breaks up the play and those quick switches across ground often lead to thrusts forward where our big key forwards can be one out.
One thing I do know, he'll close the gaps and leave his own opponent to create the spoils.

Our D50 has been good in general, it's the run and unpredictable carry that I think we miss the most. Not surprising, the opposition have no idea of where Saad is heading, it looks like most of his team-mates struggle to know what he'll do as well!

Another thing, in Saad's absence McGovern has to cover more ground, and that seems to affect his ability to pick out targets like we know he can, which just compounds the problem of Saad missing on the rebound. Early in the season McGovern got to sit across the HBF, intercept and hit up targets on the F50, now he is all over the place.