Carlton Supporters Club

Thanks for making this point.  Twenty of the team that beat us yesterday are battle hardened players where we are relying on twenty to fourth gamers backed up by a bunch of retreads who were given the flick essentially.

Some of them might come good, others won't.

@LP did you watch Gowers today he was pretty ordinary and missed a couple of set shots in Levi fashion.

Twenty of the team that beat us yesterday are battle hardened players where we are relying on twenty to fourth gamers backed up by a bunch of retreads who were given the flick essentially.

Casboult, Levi
Jones, Liam - would get a game in most AFL teams
Phillips, Andrew
Shaw, Matt (R)
Mullett, Aaron
O'Shea, Cameron
Lamb, Jed
Kerridge, Sam
Docherty, Sam
Graham, Nicholas
Plowman, Lachlan
Byrne, Ciaran
Cripps, Patrick
Lang, Darcy

a)  No.   It was a poor performance.  Our forwardline was terrible.   No space.   No one creating space.   No one leading towards the ball carrier.   Best at this were Curnow, Thomas and Lamb.  Weitering was lost and just got in the way.   Not a forward, however with Marchbank and Jones we don't really need 3 talls.    Struggled for a match up, however for his development I would prefer to play him in the seniors.  

b)  None have really bothered me.    I would have liked to see McKay play much for the same reasons as Weittering.    I don't think he is ready, but the more games he and Curnow play in the same forwardline the better.   Silvagni I love but I not sure what role he plays in the modern game.   Not tall enough/Not quick enough.   Hard to find a similar type in any of the successful sides.

c)  List wise yes.   I like the influx of youth, but it was alway going to bring pain.   We (Carlton Supporters) piss and moan about Gibbs and Murphy, but they are class players and you can't expect the kids to step up and replace a Gibbs.    He will dominate at the Crows with Crouch (x2) and Sloane.    He will make dills like Spanner look silly.   Yeah we are better off without Gibbs and Murphy ;(

LP..Think they may have thought we might be able to run GC off their feet with our new game plan, Poulsen has worked as tagger
in the NB's and maybe they thought he could lock down on one of the GC quicker mids or small forwards...looks like we were prepared to concede in the ruck and maybe hope Casboult might take a few marks around the ground and get involved in general play a bit more than Witts. Witts surprised with his endurance and had only Day as support so he rucked most of the day....

I have said this time and time again - Matty Kruezer is our most important player by the mile, we have no structure and our groups confidence falls to bits when his out. We were shot from the first bounce against a team that considering our development, we should win at least 8 out of every 10 times we play them. Cripps aside we are small light and weak where the ball is won without MK in there and to replace a player like that with a small light kid is amateur hour and showed our selectors to be fools this week

While i know we should never have such a reliance on one player until we get at least 2 more decent sized midfielders it wont change.

We wont beat any AFL team without him playing this year.

one of my biggest concerns with our list and the line up against the suns. We go in with a number of smaller players most of whom are still young and not strong enough. A number of our (more) senior players are still small guys - Murphy, Curnow, Simpson, Wright and Lamb compared to the senior groups the top teams are putting out on the ground each week. Then add in younger guys like Fisher, Polson, SPS and Dow (and maybe Garlett) who are still building their bodies and we are quite a small team. After watching Sydney vs Port yesterday and bits of other games this weekend we do look far smaller than a lot of the competition. Even our KPP like Weitering, Marchbank, Mckay and to a degree SOJ are still filling out. (I'd say Curnow too based on age but he already looks a ready).

This of course is still no excuse for all the fumbles and poor disposal on Saturday.

Leaving Casboult to be the anchor at home.

We have always looked a smaller side and bigger side bash us up.
I can't remember us having bigger bodies than anyone. We just seem to always look smaller.
Not enough time on the juice. 

re a), been saying the same for weeks, nobody agreed with me (well maybe 1) and now every man and his dog is saying the same.

but....b) you say the selections don't bother you.
So there is no spot for Weitering, which you admit. He is not required, but you have no issue with him being picked every week? For his 'development' it is best? What is more important, his development or the teams?  Playing him is not helping us win. Picking a better suited team will give us a better chance at winning.
Sure, its not win at all costs, but we don't need to try and lose the matches do we?

I have said this time and time again - Matty Kruezer is our most important player by the mile, we have no structure and our groups confidence falls to bits when his out. We were shot from the first bounce against a team that considering our development, we should win at least 8 out of every 10 times we play them. Cripps aside we are small light and weak where the ball is won without MK in there and to replace a player like that with a small light kid is amateur hour and showed our selectors to be fools this week

While i know we should never have such a reliance on one player until we get at least 2 more decent sized midfielders it wont change.

We wont beat any AFL team without him playing this year.

Kruezer played in the same game at Etihad last season and lowered his colours to Witts as did Cripps to Lyons, they rocked up with the same game plan and Lynch torched us again......you have to start looking at the coaches box too when you analyse deja vu defeats...

Our recruiters select too many small body midfielders IMO and considering the lack of protection surprised how good Fisher and SPS are tracking. Imagine those 2 playing and protected in a midfield like the Swans  .