Horrible game but a handy smacking of the Saints.
85 points is a nice win, but I'm not loosing sight that from this point on a win is a loss.
Good to see Hendo, White and The Bolt all kicking bags! Good confidence booster for the boys. Well done baggers
Nice negating game by Curnow
Why did they put Menzel back on the ground when we were ten goals up?
Menzel may miss weeks now, they are saying subluxated shoulder!
Good to see White make some impact, shows that as a 2nd or 3rd option he has forward potential. Lots have been saying that on here for some time, why can't coaches see it?
Curnow BOG, really stopped everyone and anyone based on the radio commentary???
Johnson again showed that he has something to offer, gotta keep playing the kid, its the only way he will improve.
If Carrazzo has a serious injury, then it is time for Graham to be a given a full match.
Johnson again showed that he has something to offer, gotta keep playing the kid, its the only way he will improve.
If Carrazzo has a serious injury, then it is time for Graham to be a given a full match.
I reckon he'll bring in Cachia.
More a defensive mid.
Johnson again showed that he has something to offer, gotta keep playing the kid, its the only way he will improve.
If Carrazzo has a serious injury, then it is time for Graham to be a given a full match.
I reckon he'll bring in Cachia.
More a defensive mid.
Just in case you weren't aware Cimm, we aren't playing for wins any more, we are playing for a better draft position.
Johnson again showed that he has something to offer, gotta keep playing the kid, its the only way he will improve.
If Carrazzo has a serious injury, then it is time for Graham to be a given a full match.
I reckon he'll bring in Cachia.
More a defensive mid.
Just in case you weren't aware Cimm, we aren't playing for wins any more, we are playing for a better draft position.
Maybe.
I'd prefer to see Graham and Cachia in for McLean and Carrots.
Johnson again showed that he has something to offer, gotta keep playing the kid, its the only way he will improve.
If Carrazzo has a serious injury, then it is time for Graham to be a given a full match.
I reckon he'll bring in Cachia.
More a defensive mid.
Just in case you weren't aware Cimm, we aren't playing for wins any more, we are playing for a better draft position.
Nah, that's just me wishing that was the case. I've no doubt the club will be playing for wins
Cachia should have been played well before now. His skills and decision making under pressure have been good since his second coming.
Cachia should have been played well before now. His skills and decision making under pressure have been good since his second coming.
Until his last couple of games Cachia has struggled this season at NBs, and I don't think we lack his type. If Carrazzo is out he may get a run, but Bell has just returned and the Irish guys might also be close to getting a 1s game as taggers. Cripps returns soon too, so I think this leaves Cachia in a tough place. If Armfield returns to form his extra pace makes it tough for Cachia to get ahead of him!
Plus we haven't seen much of this yet at Carlton, but Everitt can do a midfield role as well.
Cachia should have been played well before now. His skills and decision making under pressure have been good since his second coming.
Until the last couple of games he has struggled this season at NBs, and I don't think we lack his type. I Carrazzo is out he may get a run, but Bell has just returned and the Irish guys might also be close to getting a 1s game as taggers. Cripps returns soon too, so I think this leaves Cachia in a tough place.
Wonder whether his struggles in 2nds has been due to not getting a fair go in seniors. I haven't quite understood his absence. His improvement last year was noticeable, further improvement was always going to depend on further senior game time.
Cachia should have been played well before now. His skills and decision making under pressure have been good since his second coming.
Until his last couple of games Cachia has struggled this season at NBs, and I don't think we lack his type. If Carrazzo is out he may get a run, but Bell has just returned and the Irish guys might also be close to getting a 1s game as taggers. Cripps returns soon too, so I think this leaves Cachia in a tough place. If Armfield returns to form his extra pace makes it tough for Cachia to get ahead of him!
Plus we haven't seen much of this yet at Carlton, but Everitt can do a midfield role as well.
I thought Cachia had been playing well in th seconds and had his first game back after injury this week
It's nice to see what we are capable of when we actually have a good crack at it, all be it against sub par opponents.
Also nice that our biggest win is bigger than our greatest loss. I didn't think I would be saying that after the Bummers game earlier in the year!
A pretty even contribution I thought, well done to all.
I thought Cachia had been playing well in th seconds and had his first game back after injury this week
He'd been OK, but nothing like last season when he dominated at NBs level. But some of this may be down to a change in strategy.
Just saw Hendo's lucky bounce goal on my phone, was that Bell doing the shepherd?
Just saw Hendo's lucky bounce goal on my phone, was that Bell doing the shepherd?
Yep, he laid a monster bump right at the death to ensure Hendo ran in to a near open goal.
If we hadn't of gone to sleep in the second, we would of won by 150 points.
They were terrible in the first quarter, they kept turning it over with such regularity that you could of been excused for thinking our players were wearing Saints jumpers they got hit on the chest so often.
If we hadn't of gone to sleep in the second, we would of won by 150 points.
They were terrible in the first quarter, they kept turning it over with such regularity that you could of been excused for thinking our players were wearing Saints jumpers they got hit on the chest so often.
Agree, the Saints were shocking and their early disposal probably had Riewlot considering his future. Still it was our greatest winning margin over the Saints since 1998 so a nice little milestone for this group. Next week will be a whole different matter.
Johnson again showed that he has something to offer, gotta keep playing the kid, its the only way he will improve.
If Carrazzo has a serious injury, then it is time for Graham to be a given a full match.
I reckon he'll bring in Cachia.
More a defensive mid.
Just in case you weren't aware Cimm, we aren't playing for wins any more, we are playing for a better draft position.
I d be disgusted if that was the case.
That losing mentality got us nowhere last time around.
Both Hawthorn and Geelong, and to a lesser extent North have shown that you don't need to totally bottom out to build a good side.
I d be disgusted if that was the case.
That losing mentality got us nowhere last time around.
Both Hawthorn and Geelong, and to a lesser extent North have shown that you don't need to totally bottom out to build a good side.
Could this be something to do with the 3AW allegation that the Carlton players were telling the Carlton runner to piss off?
I d be disgusted if that was the case.
That losing mentality got us nowhere last time around.
Both Hawthorn and Geelong, and to a lesser extent North have shown that you don't need to totally bottom out to build a good side.
Those teams have a way better playing list than us so they just keep topping up.
We need to get game time into our younger players (Graham, Johnson, Holman etc) so you have to expect to lose along the way. The upside is we get access to the better credentialed players in the draft. Where's the problem here ??
That should save us from the wooden spoon and hard to complain about an 80+ point win...
I tell you one bloke who wouldn't have enjoyed watching that forward line trio of Henderson, Levi and White combine so well.....Jarrad Waite. Something extraordinary has to happen for him to reclaim his place. All over Jarrad. Reckon Carrazzo needs to reassess his future too.
I actually felt sorry for Riewoldt at times, such was his frustration at some of the horrendous delivery to him. Never seen anything quite like it, my god it was bad.
Warnock....as I said at the game, he's a 206cm vagina. What a poor excuse for a footballer, let alone a ruckman he is. Soft, ineffectual, basically he's a nuisance and nothing more.
Saints were actually more than competitive in the first few rounds of the year, now they are a rabble....and I don't care!!!
May as we'll enjoy this one, as next week could be real ugly.
I d be disgusted if that was the case.
That losing mentality got us nowhere last time around.
Both Hawthorn and Geelong, and to a lesser extent North have shown that you don't need to totally bottom out to build a good side.
Could this be something to do with the 3AW allegation that the Carlton players were telling the Carlton runner to piss off?
Today?
Didn't hear that today and I listened to the whole game on AW.
Johnson again showed that he has something to offer, gotta keep playing the kid, its the only way he will improve.
If Carrazzo has a serious injury, then it is time for Graham to be a given a full match.
I reckon he'll bring in Cachia.
More a defensive mid.
Just in case you weren't aware Cimm, we aren't playing for wins any more, we are playing for a better draft position.
I d be disgusted if that was the case.
That losing mentality got us nowhere last time around.
Both Hawthorn and Geelong, and to a lesser extent North have shown that you don't need to totally bottom out to build a good side.
I'm the same. By all means play the kids but still try everything to win. Tanking just breeds a losing mentality, poor work ethic and poor culture, which is often hard to bounce back from, as we have found.
Whether one gets pick 5 or pick 6 or 7 makes very little difference. You get something decent. We've had no.1's before only to find there was something better after our no.1's. You used to tank before because of the extra priority pick in the top 5, not simply to gain an extra spot or two.
Today?
Didn't hear that today and I listened to the whole game on AW.
It was BT and Richo making the claim, perhaps you tune out to their bullcrap!
Today?
Didn't hear that today and I listened to the whole game on AW.
It was BT and Richo making the claim, perhaps you tune out to their bullcrap!
BT is a knob.
Today?
Didn't hear that today and I listened to the whole game on AW.
It was BT and Richo making the claim, perhaps you tune out to their bullcrap!
Don't think so.
I would say you're giving too much credence to what was a probably one of their less important observations.
I'm not saying lose games on purpose, but if you look at today we had more to get excited about with Johnson playing than we would with Waite or Ellard etc.
When you play young guys, they make errors due to their inexperience and they sure as hell will against all of the teams in the 8 that we play in the run home to the end of the season.
The chances of us winning these matches is very low but if we get some solid game time into the next breed of players its worth it.
Don't think so.
I would say you're giving too much credence to what was a probably one of their less important observations.
No doubt, but they did broadcast it during the 3rd quarter when we were on a scoring streak!
I'm not saying lose games on purpose, but if you look at today we had more to get excited about with Johnson playing than we would with Waite or Ellard etc.
When you play young guys, they make errors due to their inexperience and they sure as hell will against all of the teams in the 8 that we play in the run home to the end of the season.
The chances of us winning these matches is very low but if we get some solid game time into the next breed of players its worth it.
no team plays to loose games on purpose, these days. Playing young players towards seasons end when finals are gone is no different to teams deciding at a particular stage in their development to offload star senior players in exchange for draft picks. If teams were strictly compelled to value winning immediate games in lieu of ongoing development then you could argue that trading star players at seasons end is a form of tanking. It simply part of the games current setup.
I'm not saying lose games on purpose, but if you look at today we had more to get excited about with Johnson playing than we would with Waite or Ellard etc.
When you play young guys, they make errors due to their inexperience and they sure as hell will against all of the teams in the 8 that we play in the run home to the end of the season.
The chances of us winning these matches is very low but if we get some solid game time into the next breed of players its worth it.
Yes, you're right there.
Ok, only the Saints but apart from our lapse in the second we were hard at it and kept the errors under control as well as taking our opportunities. Pretty pleasing all round but I was especially delighted to see Levi go so well. Maybe, just maybe, we have found a KPF. Lachie looked good forward today also, just as I was saying play him in defence! Speaking of which, Jamo and Sam both looked pretty good. Especially pleased to see Sam now having the confidence to snag a few defensive marks.
Good win but this Stkilda is one of the worst teams I have seen for years...I pity a star like Rewioldt having to put up with such numpties delivering the ball to him.
I wasnt that impressed to be honest...same players ie Walker turning the ball over in the same way with poor kicks that didnt hit targets...Henderson dropping marks he should have taken but both were saved by Stkilda's inability to make us pay because they were so crape.....
Everitt had a picnic courtesy of inept coaching from Richardson...why a spud like Dennis Lane was allowed to stay on Everitt for so long was laughable....Malthouse got that matchup right...as Dennis Lane was a zero threat.
Simon White gave us something different which was one positive but I wouldnt count on him kicking 4 goals for the rest of his career...probably will see the end of Waite though as Mick now has another option.
Casboult had it all his own way as the Saints were so undersized...the push off with Montagna was like the Grade 6 kid pushing the Grade 1 kid out of the road....
Didnt really have any poor players as it was so easy to get a kick...Blaine Johnson's tackling was good but he will need to convert better to make it as a AFL senior player
but he does have a red hot go unlike Garlett.
Bell kicked a goal and delivered a nice bump but also looked his usual untidy self with the ball and he needs some games to get the pace of the game again.
Docherty was neat with the footy, Gibbs and Daisy didnt do much but who cares they didnt have to do much as the Saints gave the footy back so often...
Jamison and Rowe were good although delivery to Reiwoldt as I sadi was poor and Stanley drifted out of the game after looking dangerous...
Curnow did a good job and Menzel was also very good early unitl injured.....why he came back on the ground I dont know???
Murphy was ok and did some push and shove stuff which is out of character but I like the way he is warming to his task as captain...
Warnock lumbered around but didnt really dominate and his opponent Longer was a non event also.....
Winning beats losing and the margin was fair given how crape the Saints were but something was missing for me in terms of improvement which may sound strange given how much we won by but the opposition was so poor I couldnt get excited about this game...
Liked Johnson's game. Will only improve.
We usually make hard work of games against lower sides but today we seemed really disciplined and positive (except for about 15 mins in the 2nd qtr). Although the Aints were awful and made some horrendous mistakes. But good sides do what we did today... now bring on the Fluffy Ducks (gulp!).
Good win but this Stkilda is one of the worst teams I have seen for years...I pity a star like Rewioldt having to put up with such numpties delivering the ball to him.
I wasnt that impressed to be honest...same players ie Walker turning the ball over in the same way with poor kicks that didnt hit targets...Henderson dropping marks he should have taken but both were saved by Stkilda's inability to make us pay because they were so crape.....
Everitt had a picnic courtesy of inept coaching from Richardson...why a spud like Dennis Lane was allowed to stay on Everitt for so long was laughable....Malthouse got that matchup right...as Dennis Lane was a zero threat.
Simon White gave us something different which was one positive but I wouldnt count on him kicking 4 goals for the rest of his career...probably will see the end of Waite though as Mick now has another option.
Casboult had it all his own way as the Saints were so undersized...the push off with Montagna was like the Grade 6 kid pushing the Grade 1 kid out of the road....
Didnt really have any poor players as it was so easy to get a kick...Blaine Johnson's tackling was good but he will need to convert better to make it as a AFL senior player
but he does have a red hot go unlike Garlett.
Bell kicked a goal and delivered a nice bump but also looked his usual untidy self with the ball and he needs some games to get the pace of the game again.
Docherty was neat with the footy, Gibbs and Daisy didnt do much but who cares they didnt have to do much as the Saints gave the footy back so often...
Jamison and Rowe were good although delivery to Reiwoldt as I sadi was poor and Stanley drifted out of the game after looking dangerous...
Curnow did a good job and Menzel was also very good early unitl injured.....why he came back on the ground I dont know???
Murphy was ok and did some push and shove stuff which is out of character but I like the way he is warming to his task as captain...
Warnock lumbered around but didnt really dominate and his opponent Longer was a non event also.....
Winning beats losing and the margin was fair given how crape the Saints were but something was missing for me in terms of improvement which may sound strange given how much we won by but the opposition was so poor I couldnt get excited about this game...
We've improved! We finally manged to beat the bottom team this year after a few attempts...lol!
I reckon Levi will become the new Travis Cloke of the comp (and i mean that as a compliment)!
Good win today against very poor opposition.
Brock and Walks have got at least a one week reprieve, both good and used the ball very well but no doubt some will still be calling for them to be dropped.
St Kilda are woeful.
The blokes in the Fox Footy box were actually talking up our list going forward, which I couldn't believe.
Were saying that we ve got a good base to work from (Murph, Gibbs, Thomas,, Everritt, Hendo, Jamison) plus some quality kids coming through (Buckley, Menzel, Johnson, Cripps).
Older but inexperienced players like White, Rowe and Casboult have shown improvement.
If we trade / draft right this year, we can make big strides forward next year.
The blokes in the Fox Footy box were actually talking up our list going forward, which I couldn't believe.
Were saying that we ve got a good base to work from (Murph, Gibbs, Thomas,, Everritt, Hendo, Jamison) plus some quality kids coming through (Buckley, Menzel, Johnson, Cripps).
Older but inexperienced players like White, Rowe and Casboult have shown improvement.
If we trade / draft right this year, we can make big strides forward next year.
Until we play poorly again, then we have squat
Johnson again showed that he has something to offer, gotta keep playing the kid, its the only way he will improve.
If Carrazzo has a serious injury, then it is time for Graham to be a given a full match.
I reckon he'll bring in Cachia.
More a defensive mid.
Just in case you weren't aware Cimm, we aren't playing for wins any more, we are playing for a better draft position.
I d be disgusted if that was the case.
That losing mentality got us nowhere last time around.
Both Hawthorn and Geelong, and to a lesser extent North have shown that you don't need to totally bottom out to build a good side.
I'm the same. By all means play the kids but still try everything to win. Tanking just breeds a losing mentality, poor work ethic and poor culture, which is often hard to bounce back from, as we have found.
Whether one gets pick 5 or pick 6 or 7 makes very little difference. You get something decent. We've had no.1's before only to find there was something better after our no.1's. You used to tank before because of the extra priority pick in the top 5, not simply to gain an extra spot or two.
Yep - agree 154%. No tanking under any circumstances. In Nietzsche's terms, it's slave morality.
Good win today against an ineffectual opponent.
The Aints were woeful, they butchered the ball worse than a battle scene on Vikings.
Our second quarter was terrible, we got ahead of ourselves and looked like our opponents.
Forwards working well together, White was a great move.
Levi's belief is staring to show, very, very happy with the big fella.
L7 (Andrejs) played a blinder of a first half.
Great to have MM at the helm. He's the man to change the culture, cull the pretenders and oversee the necessary transformation our proud club needs.
Now for the Swans.
I think we underestimate the lose of Curnow for so many weeks. Our most improved player this year, I believe.
Hendo running in a straight line forward and some 40 or so meters to kicking a long goal is further reminder why he is better suited as KPB running straight rather an as close in body type KPF.
I think we underestimate the lose of Curnow for so many weeks. Our most improved player this year, I believe.
Mick considers Levi as one of competitions most improved in 2014, probably right 2 considering he was coming from a longer way back, but Ed has also clearly improved in 2014.
I haven't seen todays game yet, but on what Ive seen so far, I think Curnow was better last year, particularly with disposal and decision making with the ball. That's not to say he isn't doing a good job in 2014.
I think he has established himself as one of the gun taggers in the comp though.
I think we underestimate the lose of Curnow for so many weeks. Our most improved player this year, I believe.
Yep, mentioned this very fact about 6 weeks ago. As I said back then, when Curnow was first injured his stats for tackles, 1%ers, pressure acts, etc., at the time were elite in the AFL. You simply can't replace what he provides.
I think we underestimate the lose of Curnow for so many weeks. Our most improved player this year, I believe.
Yep, mentioned this very fact about 6 weeks ago. As I said back then, when Curnow was first injured his stats for tackles, 1%ers, pressure acts, etc., at the time were elite in the AFL. You simply can't replace what he provides.
Yep, but he's not as good as Sidebottom apparently.
Nice negating game by Curnow
He really slaughtered Montagna and then Steven, both of whom have really hurt us before. Andreijs Everitt did a very good job on Montagna after Carrots went off and Curnow switched players. Both guys really earnt their money today.
Nice negating game by Curnow
He really slaughtered Montagna and then Steven, both of whom have really hurt us before. Andreijs Everitt did a very good job on Montagna after Carrots went off and Curnow switched players. Both guys really earnt their money today.
Yep they certainly did. What's pleasing is that they're both young and have a lot of footy left in them. Bring on 2015
Nice negating game by Curnow
He really slaughtered Montagna and then Steven, both of whom have really hurt us before. Andreijs Everitt did a very good job on Montagna after Carrots went off and Curnow switched players. Both guys really earnt their money today.
I have Montagna in my fantasy team (inherited). I can tell you his stats were down massively this week.
Pre-match I stated that I had very little interest in the match, only focus was the handful of young guys running around. As it turned out, I found it to be a pretty ordinary match even though we ended up smacking the living bejesus out of them.
Take that appalling (and equally frustrating) second quarter fade out of the equation and we were all over them, they are a terrible team and will stay at the bottom for the rest of the season.
Johnson showed a little more today and he just has to get composed when kicking for goal but that will come with experience & coaching. Attacks the contest, tackles hard and plays the percentages which makes him an asset to the team already and has just about closed the book on Garlett returning and more than likely Jeffy's place on the list.
Menzel was active as all hell before the shoulder injury and Docherty showed that he is an elite kick, all good stuff for the future.
Great to get a big win after so many losses but next week will bring us back to earth against the Swans up here, they just don't make the same sloppy skill errors the Saints did today.
It'll also be interesting to see who stands up in the heat and who melts !!
Hendo running in a straight line forward and some 40 or so meters to kicking a long goal is further reminder why he is better suited as KPB running straight rather an as close in body type KPF.
He is getting some fitness back now. A good pre-season will set him up nicely for 2015.
We looked a million dollars for three and a half quarters.
The two cent effort in the second quarter is an indication of why we sit where we are on the ladder.
I think we underestimate the loss of Curnow for so many weeks. Our most improved player this year, I believe.
Carrots as well. For a considerable period we were unable to shut down opponents' best mids, among other things. With Carrots coming back to fitness and form and Curnow coming back like he hadn't missed at all, we now have weapons to silence good players. It is very nice, especially after some of the tactics used on Murphy this year.
Its hard to believe,that the rabble we played were a whisker from winning a grand final just 4years a go.They have major issues and I love it ,for the last 10years we have been their bunnies but no longer :)
Its hard to believe,that the rabble we played were a whisker from winning a grand final just 4years a go.They have major issues and I love it ,for the last 10years we have been their bunnies but no longer :)
The alleged issue is Pelchen.
Allegedly rumors from the Dawks and a past Aints coach? ??? I have heard rumors that the Dawks credit Buckenara with their success. It's was alleged by a Dawks insider that Pelchen tried to steal the limelight for recruits that he actually opposed! A lot were Buckenara recommendations, which are now the blokes that form the core of the Dawks team.
Its hard to believe,that the rabble we played were a whisker from winning a grand final just 4years a go.They have major issues and I love it ,for the last 10years we have been their bunnies but no longer :)
This
We looked a million dollars for three and a half quarters.
The two cent effort in the second quarter is an indication of why we sit where we are on the ladder.
Yep, agree wholeheartedly Lods.
We looked a million dollars for three and a half quarters.
The two cent effort in the second quarter is an indication of why we sit where we are on the ladder.
Application not talent?
We looked a million dollars for three and a half quarters.
The two cent effort in the second quarter is an indication of why we sit where we are on the ladder.
Application not talent?
That's the question....isn't it.
We were playing St Kilda.
We wont have long to find out though.
Make no mistake about it, the question marks over this side are going to be answered in full over the next 7 weeks and we'll know exactly where we stand.
Make no mistake about it, the question marks over this side are going to be answered in full over the next 7 weeks and we'll know exactly where we stand.
Do we not know the answer to that question or do we know it, refuse to accept it and are just hoping for evidence to the contrary?
We looked a million dollars for three and a half quarters.
The two cent effort in the second quarter is an indication of why we sit where we are on the ladder.
Application not talent?
I remember us going through lapses in Q's when Ratts was coaching. We lost several close games because of our inability to stem the tide when opposition got on a roll. Ratts answer was very simplistic ie slow play down and keep possession, It was clearly visible that players did this at stages when we were being seriously challenged. Granted we still lost games that we shouldn't have lost but there was a clinical strategy around it. Whats our strategy for overcoming challenges similar to our 2nd Q against the Aints ?. it could be anything, punch the fork out of the main opposition play maker, slow the game to trickle, whatever it is id just like to know the strategy around it.
Across the Afl there seems to be the following ways to stop opponents momentum.
1. Turn the game into a contested scrap.
2. Starve your opposition of the easy/uncontested ball.
3. Take the game on and turn it into a shootout.
In the past we were good at the last one, but it appears we never really figured out how to battle through the other ones. To be fair to our playing group contesting and starving your opposition of the footy seems to be something they are unsuited to.
The trouble being is that the best sides in the Afl have no trouble with any of these, and I noticed the Bombers did this to Port on Saturday and it paid dividends. Invariably the grand final tends to be a bit of an arm wrestle.
In any case, we need to get better at the hotly contested stuff as we just don't have enough that thrive in those conditions.
@DU - the strategy is a 'process'. :P
Only saw the highlights package of the game here, its been far too long since we flogged a side like that.
@DU - the strategy is a 'process'. :P
Only saw the highlights package of the game here, its been far too long since we flogged a side like that.
no doubt that your spot on Raven, as a keen supporter Id just like to know the specifics of that process.
@ Brettie - I usually agree with your posts, but I'm sure I speak for all the females on this site when I say that your comment below is an insult to vaginas, which are actually pretty useful, effective and extremely tough (try pushing a baby through Warnock)! ;)
"Warnock....as I said at the game, he's a 206cm vagina. What a poor excuse for a footballer, let alone a ruckman he is. Soft, ineffectual, basically he's a nuisance and nothing more.''
That Gibbs handball to Judd in space who burned off his opponent and nailed the banana was the play of the day IMO.
That Gibbs handball to Judd in space who burned off his opponent and nailed the banana was the play of the day IMO.
Yep, that was great - I was sitting directly behind the trajectory of that handball and it was exquisite to watch! :)
That Gibbs handball to Judd in space who burned off his opponent and nailed the banana was the play of the day IMO.
Or as Gibbs detractors would say, a pissweak handball under pressure to nobody! ;)
Murphy was ok and did some push and shove stuff which is out of character but I like the way he is warming to his task as captain...
His day was just okay but stamped his leadership on the game with that mark he took going back with the flight. Twice in two weeks that he's done it and his last 5-6 weeks has been real captain's stuff. That's the kind of thing that's been missing from his game his entire career (even 2011) and the kind of thing that separates the good players from the great ones. I think we may have ourselves a captain.
@DU - the strategy is a 'process'. :P
Only saw the highlights package of the game here, its been far too long since we flogged a side like that.
The importance of that cannot be underestimated. Yes, the Aints were shizen, but over the past few years we would still have still made hard work of it. Great shot in the arm.
Murphy was ok and did some push and shove stuff which is out of character but I like the way he is warming to his task as captain...
His day was just okay but stamped his leadership on the game with that mark he took going back with the flight. Twice in two weeks that he's done it and his last 5-6 weeks has been real captain's stuff. That's the kind of thing that's been missing from his game his entire career (even 2011) and the kind of thing that separates the good players from the great ones. I think we may have ourselves a captain.
If he continues to stand up to the challenge he will become the captain we really need.
One of the pleasing things about the game was Thomas showing a bit of speed. I don't think he played particularly well but he did a couple of things that were reminiscent of him at his best, and burning off an opponent was one of them.
Hopefully, he's over his injury and will start to get back to his best form.
Another pleasing thing about the Aints fall from grace, is the chance, it's to early to speculate, that some of their kids may not develop the way they would like and PELCHEN will hopefully be remembered as the list manager who reinstated them at the ass end of the ladder where they belong.
Another pleasing thing about the Aints fall from grace, is the chance, it's to early to speculate, that some of their kids may not develop the way they would like and PELCHEN will hopefully be remembered as the list manager who reinstated them at the ass end of the ladder where they belong.
They've one 1 flag. I'd rather have inflicted a loss of substance to many more teams such as The hand baggers, Scum and Filth.
Another pleasing thing about the Aints fall from grace, is the chance, it's to early to speculate, that some of their kids may not develop the way they would like and PELCHEN will hopefully be remembered as the list manager who reinstated them at the ass end of the ladder where they belong.
They've one 1 flag. I'd rather have inflicted a loss of substance to many more teams such as The hand baggers, Scum and Filth.
I quite enjoy belting this mob tbh :D
Wish we could beat up a big guy!
Saints are not going well. It is nice to have a win, but bit sad to belt a defeated mob!
Wish we could have beat up the Pies!
The team is coming on well. Levi and Rowe have been great developments. Docherty has skill to burn and Everitt is a great acquisition.
The need to beat a Big Guy to convince themselves that are a force!
We lost to Brisbane & GWS, staring at a spoon. I'll take whatever we can.
Another pleasing thing about the Aints fall from grace, is the chance, it's to early to speculate, that some of their kids may not develop the way they would like and PELCHEN will hopefully be remembered as the list manager who reinstated them at the ass end of the ladder where they belong.
They've one 1 flag. I'd rather have inflicted a loss of substance to many more teams such as The hand baggers, Scum and Filth.
I quite enjoy belting this mob tbh :D
I remember I went to a game at Ettihad when we were crap, it was Campo's 200th (only reason I went) and Fev lined up at full back on Fraser Gerhig (or G-banger) as I liked to call him. So anyway I was sitting down minding my own business whilst we got smashed in the first quarter and this older bloke a Saints moron took it upon himself to keep turning around and hanging sht on me. My missus and I couldn't believe it, we'd said nothing to him and he was such an arrogant prick, talking like the Saints had the premiership in the bag over the next few years. TBH he was jinxing the crap out of his team but to turn around to someone you didn't know throughout and keep telling them how crap their side was and the Saints were on the path to glory, he'd have to be the rudest bloke I ever met. Even his wife was telling him to shut it.
It warms my heart to know he never got the premiership and to think of all the heartbreak he had along the way and now look at where they're at. That bloke will never get to see his premiership and rightly so. :))
@passit2 carrots
had the same experience over the years....
my thinking was and continues to be that the artificial football league (AFL) deliberately sucked the strength off our traditional strong clubs to prop up these loser clubs...
I had numerous experiences along the same lines. Then also had to listen numerous more on radio, and I ll never forget Pelchen's expressionless insistence in his attempt to poach Thornton when we were at our lowest. Hope Pelchen and the Aints fall further into a bag of shiat.
Another pleasing thing about the Aints fall from grace, is the chance, it's to early to speculate, that some of their kids may not develop the way they would like and PELCHEN will hopefully be remembered as the list manager who reinstated them at the ass end of the ladder where they belong.
They've one 1 flag. I'd rather have inflicted a loss of substance to many more teams such as The hand baggers, Scum and Filth.
I quite enjoy belting this mob tbh :D
I remember I went to a game at Ettihad when we were crap, it was Campo's 200th (only reason I went) and Fev lined up at full back on Fraser Gerhig (or G-banger) as I liked to call him. So anyway I was sitting down minding my own business whilst we got smashed in the first quarter and this older bloke a Saints moron took it upon himself to keep turning around and hanging sht on me. My missus and I couldn't believe it, we'd said nothing to him and he was such an arrogant prick, talking like the Saints had the premiership in the bag over the next few years. TBH he was jinxing the crap out of his team but to turn around to someone you didn't know throughout and keep telling them how crap their side was and the Saints were on the path to glory, he'd have to be the rudest bloke I ever met. Even his wife was telling him to shut it.
It warms my heart to know he never got the premiership and to think of all the heartbreak he had along the way and now look at where they're at. That bloke will never get to see his premiership and rightly so. :))
Saints well and truly back where they deserve to be. On the bottom of the ladder. Now if only we can resume our rightful place in the top half of the ladder
Another pleasing thing about the Aints fall from grace, is the chance, it's to early to speculate, that some of their kids may not develop the way they would like and PELCHEN will hopefully be remembered as the list manager who reinstated them at the ass end of the ladder where they belong.
They've one 1 flag. I'd rather have inflicted a loss of substance to many more teams such as The hand baggers, Scum and Filth.
I quite enjoy belting this mob tbh :D
I do too. They really irritated me when they had their few moments of glory: I guess they didn't know how to handle victory with grace having experienced so little of it. Now they are getting a good dose of karma. I hope they enjoy it. I did.
change of tack
watching the last quarter when Menzel got hit on shoulder - not clear if a stinger or break
He then played on got hit again on shoulder after about 10 minutes
what were our damn doctors and physios doing?
change of tack
watching the last quarter when Menzel got hit on shoulder - not clear if a stinger or break
He then played on got hit again on shoulder after about 10 minutes
what were our damn doctors and physios doing?
I saw on he TV tonight that Menzel is hoping to be right for Sydney. I am doubtful to be honest, but I am well known for not taking risks with half fit players. The club ignores me and does its own thing. I'm used to it. :)
Apparently some rumours doing the rounds suggested that Menzel wanted to join his brother at Geelong. From what he said today, that seems unlikely.
To be honest, if he wants to play with his brother he has as much chance by staying with us. Geelong are not going to keep a guy on their list forever who can't get on the park. I understand that they WANT to keep him, but list management suggests they would be crazy to keep him. On the other hand, us using a rookie pick on him would be a reasonable guess, if he looked like being able to play at some point. Then again, he may simply retire if his knees are gone.
There was a little feature on Menz on Fox Footy last night and he said he wanted to be picked up by the Cats to be with his brother but was rapt when picked up by Carlton as he would be close to him in Victoria.
@ Crash.. I Agree no need to risk him, let him rest theres no point in playing him injured, give him several weeks to recover if he needs it. Also agree he wont be going anywhere. The club needs to address his re-signing as a matter of priority, as im sure its doing.
There was a little feature on Menz on Fox Footy last night and he said he wanted to be picked up by the Cats to be with his brother but was rapt when picked up by Carlton as he would be close to him in Victoria.
Maybe I saw a different feature, but I'm pretty sure it was Daniel saying he wanted Troy drafted to Geelong, not Troy saying he wanted to go to Geelong.
Possibly. I was drifting off at the time. :))
@ Crash.. I Agree no need to risk him, let him rest theres no point in playing him injured, give him several weeks to recover if he needs it. Also agree he wont be going anywhere. The club needs to address his re-signing as a matter of priority, as im sure its doing.
I hope so. The last thing I would want to do is gift a team like Geelong a player with the class of Menzel: they are on the decline (and about time), while we have only one direction to go.
@ Crash.. I Agree no need to risk him, let him rest theres no point in playing him injured, give him several weeks to recover if he needs it. Also agree he wont be going anywhere. The club needs to address his re-signing as a matter of priority, as im sure its doing.
I hope so. The last thing I would want to do is gift a team like Geelong a player with the class of Menzel: they are on the decline (and about time), while we have only one direction to go.
and those carnts on to the southwest that have been quietly poaching our players for the last decade can GGF 2