Yes, it is poor timing, with the senior game overlapping by 45 minutes, but.....
It will be an interesting game. Game starts at 2:30, so if we are going particularly badly, there will be some place else to go....
Northern Blues vs. Frankston
Saturday, April 12
Visy Park at 2:30pm
Northern Blues
B: Giles Watson McInnes
HB: Bootsma Anthony Sheehan
C: Holman McLean Docherty
HF: Temay Waite B. Johnson
F: Graham White Garlett
R: Wood Bell Armfield
Int: Wilson Wilkinson Reynolds Posar T. Thomas Dirago Coulson Cattapan* Totevski
Frankston
B: Heddles J. Irving N. Newman
HB: Purcell Simpson Potts
C: Cavarra* L. Kitchin Tynan
HF: Buchan Lourey Garner
F: Matheson Haretuku Greeley
R: Coleman Hockey Harper
Int: Dermott Boland Faik Cameron B. Irving Pollard Alwan J. Newman
No Russell Gabriel? That is a huge out for them.
For us, there are 18 Blues named! I simply can't see us playing 18 Carlton players, no matter how much Waite, McLean and Garlett need the run.
Northern Blues vs. Frankston
Saturday, April 12
Visy Park at 11:30am
Northern Blues
B: Johnston Dirago Posar
HB: Grimes Coulson Watson
C: T. Thomas Taglieri J. Gleeson
HF: Wilson Walton Byrne
F: Murray Dufficy Dorman
R: Bolger Reynolds Totevski
Int: Emley M. Gleeson Callaway Di Paolo Toman Tardio McCann McDonald Haynes
Frankston
B Helliwell Boland Soroczynski
HB J. Williams Beech J. Newman
C Lees Rolfe Bastinac
HF Egan B. Irving Mirams
F Gardiner Hammond Whitty
R Faik Sutton Foote
Int Jennings Sykes Pickess Giobbi Fox Tuddenham Brennan
The only thing wrong with this team is that it is so short!
For us, there are 18 Blues named! I simply can't see us playing 18 Carlton players, no matter how much Waite, McLean and Garlett need the run.
At least 2 emergencies will be held back.
wow 20 listed or formerly listed AFL players.
Any reason why Byrne hasn't been promoted?
Any reason why Byrne hasn't been promoted?
His career spans 3/4 of one good game!
Any reason why Byrne hasn't been promoted?
His career spans 3/4 of one good game!
Byrne also had an interrupted pre season with injury. That was why he hadn't played a game before - he was in the medical room.
The plan last week was to give about 2/3 of a game. True to form, during the 3rd quarter he came off and stayed off.
Importantly, he didn't just play well, but he pulled up well. So, the plan this week is to extend his time on the field, although it is not yet clear whether that means he will play the whole game.
In another couple of weeks, assuming his form and his body hold up, he will get his chance for the Northern Blues seniors. From there, who knows?
NBs gave up a five goal lead, then won by a goal after the siren to Reynold's!
Any reason why Byrne hasn't been promoted?
His career spans 3/4 of one good game!
And that was in the development NB team, not the ones!!
Any reports on this game? Did anyone go?
Any reports on this game? Did anyone go?
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Any reports on this game? Did anyone go?
NBs win by 3 pts with a kick after the siren by Luke Reynolds. 35 out, 45 degree angle, right side for a left footer - never in doubt. Confident and strong shot which was pretty good for a kid surrounded by Frankston players shouting all kinds of rubbish at him. Whole side gathered around him after the goal. Good spirit.
The NBs were 2 kicks up at 3/4 time and held sway for most of the day but Frangertown (Goos got them super pumped for the last qtr) gave it their all and it made for a highly entertaining and exciting final qtr.
Only decided to go to this game at the last minute instead of going to the MCG... call it a gut feel. Glad I did.
Brief run down:
Blaine Johnson - did some heavy and strong work at important times. Still rough around the edges but has a good work ethic and attitude.
Brock McLean - improved on last week. Still not back to his dominant best but would have been his best effort this year. 50/50 for a recall.
Matthew Watson - beaten by Khan Hartuku (how didn't this bloke get an AFL gig?). Usual stuff. Slow but when he has the aggott his kicking is good. Nothing to get excited about.
Nick Holman - a shining light. Did some really good things and seems to be getting the tempo. Thinks like a footballer. Stood up when serious heat was on in the final qtr.
Andrew McInnes - usual good negating stuff but little else.
Cameron Wood - solid game. Seemed to tire a little. Kicked a ripper out of the pack early in the game. Good work around the ground. Fair ruck work.
Luke Reynolds - like this kid. Great left foot kick (but aint they all, those left footers?). Looks like a footballer. Bit green but gee, if he develops as he should - good stuff.
Tom Bell - absolutely tried his heart out. Tried too hard at times and tried to do it on his own when things got tough. Delivered one of those bursts out of the pack but with little awareness got caught and dropped the ball - crowd groan. Kicked a ripper goal also from about 55 out on an angle. Really worked hard. Great attitude.
Josh Bootsma - actually thought this was better from him. Some of his defensive / spoiling work was really good. Slight improvement. Gave his all.
Simon White - one of the best on the ground. Until moved into defence in the last qtr (strange decision) was our best forward.
Ciaran Sheehan - improved again on last week - only his 2nd proper game of AFL and, mostly, you wouldn't know it. Strong at the contest. Got that Irish really go for it thing we expect. Disposal pretty good. Like him.
Dennis Armfield - what is wrong with Den Den? He should be tearing this comp a new one. Just playing to get fitness? For what he can do and is capable of, he was okay. Very little dash. Coached asked him for dash in the last qtr and he really didn't deliver.
Cameron Giles - not as conspicuous as last week, but what he does (somewhat like Reynolds) he does well.
Sam Docherty - tired a bit again but gee, when this bloke gets the aggott in his hands his disposal and footy smarts come to the fore. Made less mistakes than last week when tiring. Is going to be a beaut.
Tom Temay - not as influential as last week but did suffer a little from poor delivery into the forward line when he was there. Nothing special.
Jaryd Waite - kicked a couple of dead easy ones and missed some even easier ones. Didn't dominate as you would have expected but did work hard though I wonder if he's nearing the end of the road - got eased out of position by a younger opponent too many times.
Jeff Garlett - I expected Jeffy to tear it up. He didn't. Was hardly noticed until the tempo picked up then he did go in harder. Shouldn't get a recall on what he dished up today.
If I think of anything more I'll post it. I'm hungry!
Any reports on this game? Did anyone go?
NBs win by 3 pts with a kick after the siren by Luke Reynolds. 35 out, 45 degree angle, right side for a left footer - never in doubt. Confident and strong shot which was pretty good for a kid surrounded by Frankston players shouting all kinds of rubbish at him. Whole side gathered around him after the goal. Good spirit.
The NBs were 2 kicks up at 3/4 time and held sway for most of the day but Frangertown (Goos got them super pumped for the last qtr) gave it their all and it made for a highly entertaining and exciting final qtr.
Only decided to go to this game at the last minute instead of going to the MCG... call it a gut feel. Glad I did.
Brief run down:
Blaine Johnson - did some heavy and strong work at important times. Still rough around the edges but has a good work ethic and attitude.
Brock McLean - improved on last week. Still not back to his dominant best but would have been his best effort this year. 50/50 for a recall.
Matthew Watson - beaten by Khan Hartuku (how didn't this bloke get an AFL gig?). Usual stuff. Slow but when he has the aggott his kicking is good. Nothing to get excited about.
Nick Holman - a shining light. Did some really good things and seems to be getting the tempo. Thinks like a footballer. Stood up when serious heat was on in the final qtr.
Andrew McInnes - usual good negating stuff but little else.
Cameron Wood - solid game. Seemed to tire a little. Kicked a ripper out of the pack early in the game. Good work around the ground. Fair ruck work.
Luke Reynolds - like this kid. Great left foot kick (but aint they all, those left footers?). Looks like a footballer. Bit green but gee, if he develops as he should - good stuff.
Tom Bell - absolutely tried his heart out. Tried too hard at times and tried to do it on his own when things got tough. Delivered one of those bursts out of the pack but with little awareness got caught and dropped the ball - crowd groan. Kicked a ripper goal also from about 55 out on an angle. Really worked hard. Great attitude.
Josh Bootsma - actually thought this was better from him. Some of his defensive / spoiling work was really good. Slight improvement. Gave his all.
Simon White - one of the best on the ground. Until moved into defence in the last qtr (strange decision) was our best forward.
Ciaran Sheehan - improved again on last week - only his 2nd proper game of AFL and, mostly, you wouldn't know it. Strong at the contest. Got that Irish really go for it thing we expect. Disposal pretty good. Like him.
Dennis Armfield - what is wrong with Den Den? He should be tearing this comp a new one. Just playing to get fitness? For what he can do and is capable of, he was okay. Very little dash. Coached asked him for dash in the last qtr and he really didn't deliver.
Cameron Giles - not as conspicuous as last week, but what he does (somewhat like Reynolds) he does well.
Sam Docherty - tired a bit again but gee, when this bloke gets the aggott in his hands his disposal and footy smarts come to the fore. Made less mistakes than last week when tiring. Is going to be a beaut.
Tom Temay - not as influential as last week but did suffer a little from poor delivery into the forward line when he was there. Nothing special.
Jaryd Waite - kicked a couple of dead easy ones and missed some even easier ones. Didn't dominate as you would have expected but did work hard though I wonder if he's nearing the end of the road - got eased out of position by a younger opponent too many times.
Jeff Garlett - I expected Jeffy to tear it up. He didn't. Was hardly noticed until the tempo picked up then he did go in harder. Shouldn't get a recall on what he dished up today.
If I think of anything more I'll post it. I'm hungry!
Thank you, Baggers, for the great news. At least today was not a total disaster.
You certainly did make the right choice.
2014 AFL Victoria Development League
Northern Blues 6.5 8.7 12.10 12.11 (83)
Frankston 1.1 2.8 3.10 5.15 (45)
GOALS:
Northern Blues: Murray 3 Dufficy 3 Haynes Dirago Gleeson Bolger McDonald Taglieri
Frankston: Gardiner Sykes Whitty Egan Helliwell
BEST:
Northern Blues: Tardio Emley Dufficy Posar Watson Johnston
Frankston: Beech Sutton Lees Boland Hammond Williams
More good news. No mention of Ciaran Byrne though.
2014 Peter Jackson VFL
Northern Blues 3.5 7.7 11.12 15.12 (102)
Frankston 2.2 4.6 9.8 15.9 (99)
GOALS:
Northern Blues: Bell 3 Waite 2 White 2 Johnson 2 Thomas Wilson Giles Wood Reynolds McLean
Frankston: Matheson 4 Haretuku 3 Cavarra 2 Alwan 2 Lourey Potts Hockey Tynan
BEST:
Northern Blues: McLean Bell Docherty White Holman Wood
Frankston: Haretuku Hockey Kitchin Matheson Newman Pollard
Interesting indeed, considering Baggers' comments about McLean.
From the VFL: "Brock McLean led the way for the Northern Blues with 36 disposals, Tom Bell had 30 (three goals) and Sam Docherty 26, with White, Nick Holman and Cameron Wood (47 hitouts) among their best." Sounds like Tommy Bell wants to be back for next week. Does not sound like Garlett or Waite are ready for recalls.
Ironic how the seniors are fairing that Preston has had (1) an awesome start to 2014 and (2) the first year kids are delivering more than any crop in recent memory.
2014 Peter Jackson VFL
Northern Blues 3.5 7.7 11.12 15.12 (102)
Frankston 2.2 4.6 9.8 15.9 (99)
GOALS:
Northern Blues: Bell 3 Waite 2 White 2 Johnson 2 Thomas Wilson Giles Wood Reynolds McLean
Frankston: Matheson 4 Haretuku 3 Cavarra 2 Alwan 2 Lourey Potts Hockey Tynan
BEST:
Northern Blues: McLean Bell Docherty White Holman Wood
Frankston: Haretuku Hockey Kitchin Matheson Newman Pollard
Interesting indeed, considering Baggers' comments about McLean.
From the VFL: "Brock McLean led the way for the Northern Blues with 36 disposals, Tom Bell had 30 (three goals) and Sam Docherty 26, with White, Nick Holman and Cameron Wood (47 hitouts) among their best." Sounds like Tommy Bell wants to be back for next week. Does not sound like Garlett or Waite are ready for recalls.
Thanks CRASH. I would agree (for a change!!!) with all the best players mentioned. Maybe not in that order, but I do agree... and as I said in my report, I believe it was Brock's best game for the year but I have seen him do much better for the NBs. Glad Nick Holman made the better players. Bell left nothing out there... gave his all. Until moved White was the best forward on the ground (for us)... Haretuku tore Watson apart. Folks are going to be impressed if Docherty brings to the seniors what I have seen in the NBs over the past two weeks - especially his disposal, has a knack for choosing the best option. Wish we could fast forward his match fitness... but to be honest, and in light of how the seniors are doing, I'd give him a gig next week... even as the sub. ALthough I think Brock has still got a little way to go, also, in light of how the seniors did today I'd bring him in. I'd bring in Dinger next week as well. Wood must be close to an upgrade. White would deserve a recall on today's effort but probably won't get it... when up forward you would have thought Waite was playing 2nd fiddle to him! Led and marked well ...just like a real forwrd does!!!
Thanks for the report baggers.
Something to look forward too
Ironic how the seniors are fairing that Preston has had (1) an awesome start to 2014 and (2) the first year kids are delivering more than any crop in recent memory.
Agree... but I would temper any enthusiasm with the fact that we could have quite easily lost today as we did wilt under the Frangertown pressure in the last qtr after holding sway for most of the day (led most of the day by 2-3 gls). A few of our blokes were very tired in the last. But a win is a win is a win and this group has a dash of relentlessness about them... you can feel they hate to lose. No softies.
I feel a whole lot better, though, about the likes of Cripps, Holman, Giles, Sheehan and Reynolds so far compared to what I saw of Mitchell, McCarthy & Co early in their NBs (Bullants) careers.
But they didn't lose. And a kid in his second game slotted one after the siren to win it. The seniors can't kick goals from 30 out in front when they are 50 metres clear.
You either have it or you don't.
Byrne didn't play in the Development Side. Possibly being managed.
But they didn't lose. And a kid in his second game slotted one after the siren to win it. The seniors can't kick goals from 30 out in front when they are 50 metres clear.
You either have it or you don't.
Bingo! This lot did not want to surrender last week when 6 goals down and did not want to lose being a goal down with seconds to go today. I guess I just don't want to get too carried away as I am losing faith in our club's ability to develop not only future footballers but more importantly develop blokes who have an attitude to winning (every contest, every minute, every quarter etc) that is non-negotiable.
Do we really have the people at our club who can develop resilience and mental toughness in our players? I am beginning to seriously question (whether we have) this imperative deeply needed in any successful sporting culture.
Much appreciated review Baggers. Bit of light at the end of the tunnel with most of those new blokes. A few more years of that sort of recruiting and you never know!
Did Bell use the ball well?....he will always play well vs kids from the VFL, he is too big and powerful for most of them and can crash and bash his way through but when he tries the same stuff at AFL level he gestsfound out and then gets sloppy by foot.
We probably needs his vigour vs the Dogs but I need to know he is cleaning up his disposal......Wood is a given IMO...Warnock was just ok today vs a spud in Spencer but didnt give us much 1st class use of the footy and IMO isnt the answer.
Docherty match fit or not comes in and I would have thoughts about Giles...our defense sucks and I reckon Giles might help improve our run and provide a taller 3rd defender. Melbourne copied the estbablsiedh method fo beating us with three taller forwards...Dunn was too big for Touhy and we lacked that 3rd taller defender.
ATM I'd be very reluctant to bring in too many more unmolested newbies and have them sample the toxic seniors culture. In fact, while we're at it, get Cripps, Graham and Buckley back to the NBs as soon as possible, they've seen too much already!
Any reports on this game? Did anyone go?
NBs win by 3 pts with a kick after the siren by Luke Reynolds. 35 out, 45 degree angle, right side for a left footer - never in doubt. Confident and strong shot which was pretty good for a kid surrounded by Frankston players shouting all kinds of rubbish at him. Whole side gathered around him after the goal. Good spirit.
The NBs were 2 kicks up at 3/4 time and held sway for most of the day but Frangertown (Goos got them super pumped for the last qtr) gave it their all and it made for a highly entertaining and exciting final qtr.
Only decided to go to this game at the last minute instead of going to the MCG... call it a gut feel. Glad I did.
Brief run down:
Blaine Johnson - did some heavy and strong work at important times. Still rough around the edges but has a good work ethic and attitude.
Brock McLean - improved on last week. Still not back to his dominant best but would have been his best effort this year. 50/50 for a recall.
Matthew Watson - beaten by Khan Hartuku (how didn't this bloke get an AFL gig?). Usual stuff. Slow but when he has the aggott his kicking is good. Nothing to get excited about.
Nick Holman - a shining light. Did some really good things and seems to be getting the tempo. Thinks like a footballer. Stood up when serious heat was on in the final qtr.
Andrew McInnes - usual good negating stuff but little else.
Cameron Wood - solid game. Seemed to tire a little. Kicked a ripper out of the pack early in the game. Good work around the ground. Fair ruck work.
Luke Reynolds - like this kid. Great left foot kick (but aint they all, those left footers?). Looks like a footballer. Bit green but gee, if he develops as he should - good stuff.
Tom Bell - absolutely tried his heart out. Tried too hard at times and tried to do it on his own when things got tough. Delivered one of those bursts out of the pack but with little awareness got caught and dropped the ball - crowd groan. Kicked a ripper goal also from about 55 out on an angle. Really worked hard. Great attitude.
Josh Bootsma - actually thought this was better from him. Some of his defensive / spoiling work was really good. Slight improvement. Gave his all.
Simon White - one of the best on the ground. Until moved into defence in the last qtr (strange decision) was our best forward.
Ciaran Sheehan - improved again on last week - only his 2nd proper game of AFL and, mostly, you wouldn't know it. Strong at the contest. Got that Irish really go for it thing we expect. Disposal pretty good. Like him.
Dennis Armfield - what is wrong with Den Den? He should be tearing this comp a new one. Just playing to get fitness? For what he can do and is capable of, he was okay. Very little dash. Coached asked him for dash in the last qtr and he really didn't deliver.
Cameron Giles - not as conspicuous as last week, but what he does (somewhat like Reynolds) he does well.
Sam Docherty - tired a bit again but gee, when this bloke gets the aggott in his hands his disposal and footy smarts come to the fore. Made less mistakes than last week when tiring. Is going to be a beaut.
Tom Temay - not as influential as last week but did suffer a little from poor delivery into the forward line when he was there. Nothing special.
Jaryd Waite - kicked a couple of dead easy ones and missed some even easier ones. Didn't dominate as you would have expected but did work hard though I wonder if he's nearing the end of the road - got eased out of position by a younger opponent too many times.
Jeff Garlett - I expected Jeffy to tear it up. He didn't. Was hardly noticed until the tempo picked up then he did go in harder. Shouldn't get a recall on what he dished up today.
If I think of anything more I'll post it. I'm hungry!
Have a pie or three.
Nice report Baggers - wish I had joined you instead of going to the G.
Did Bell use the ball well?....he will always play well vs kids from the VFL, he is too big and powerful for most of them and can crash and bash his way through but when he tries the same stuff at AFL level he gestsfound out and then gets sloppy by foot.
We probably needs his vigour vs the Dogs but I need to know he is cleaning up his disposal......Wood is a given IMO...Warnock was just ok today vs a spud in Spencer but didnt give us much 1st class use of the footy and IMO isnt the answer.
Docherty match fit or not comes in and I would have thoughts about Giles...our defense sucks and I reckon Giles might help improve our run and provide a taller 3rd defender. Melbourne copied the estbablsiedh method fo beating us with three taller forwards...Dunn was too big for Touhy and we lacked that 3rd taller defender.
EB1, good question re Dinger. To be brutally honest, I think he is a bloke who will be better back home in Qld. He'd likely find another leg when playing there. Although today's stats and endeavour reflect well on him in the NBs, and make no mistake he really gave everything, he's not gonna be our answer or a bloke who can take a game by the throat. Nuh.
Wood is better than folks think. This bloke has got more ability than he and others believe. I've seen him two weeks in a row and am convinced all he needs is 'angry' and determined focus to take the next step. Today for the NBs he was there all the way.
Agree re Docherty. Enough playing with the kids. But it might take him time to get into stride...
Docherty match fit or not comes in
A must. He seems to be a very big part of our future and is far more warranted than Graham IMO.
ATM I'd be very reluctant to bring in too many more unmolested newbies and have them sample the toxic seniors culture. In fact, while we're at it, get Cripps, Graham and Buckley back to the NBs as soon as possible, they've seen too much already!
So, don't play any of our young blokes until Malthouse goes? Sounds like a plan Cookie ;)
ATM I'd be very reluctant to bring in too many more unmolested newbies and have them sample the toxic seniors culture. In fact, while we're at it, get Cripps, Graham and Buckley back to the NBs as soon as possible, they've seen too much already!
So, don't play any of our young blokes until Malthouse goes? Sounds like a plan Cookie ;)
Well I'd certainly be trying to build that winning culture in th NBs based on as many newbies as poss.