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I'll wait to see how things pan out a little more b4 making a call on Schache. I am interested. I'm a little unsure on his toughness and resilience just yet!

I have reservations for getting Sache on big money ,what has he shown,I would rather spend the money on a PATTON,LYNCH,CAMERON,WRIGHT ,LOBBE

Why? Have you heard something??

When you get down to it, a LOT of talented players leave Brisbane after a short while and play a LOT better. Sam Docherty springs to mind easily. Schache could well do the same if his heart was in it.

To be honest, players that have all the attention is where I would be steering clear from if I were the list manager.  We need blokes that have ability and a point to prove rather than blokes who were taken early in the draft and are looking for a pay day.

We need young heads, but we need to maximise our chances of success here too in terms of a strategy that sees us tread water, whilst attracting some draft picks, and picking up a player which fills the hole.

So, keeping that in mind, the player we can most afford to lose, that has some market value, and might be attractive for sides:

Levi Casboult.  With his tidy kicking this season and step up in the ruck, he is a free agent, and the compensation might yield good results in terms of a first/second rounder.

The player we should bring in to replace him??  I would be looking at Kurt Tippet as being a bloke who has had a poor few years, is in the twilight of his career, has had his pay day, and will be looking to elongate his career whilst having a point to prove and plenty of football left in the tank.

If we could somehow swing that deal, we would walk away from it at worst having broken even at the trade table and perhaps in an even better position at the draft than we are in at the moment.  Obviously I wouldnt be pulling out all the stops for Tippett, but its a buy low, sell high scenario whilst breaking even.  This is the blue print we trade with moving forward.

Let's also keep our perspective when it comes to list management.  Our current build seems to be much better than our previous one in the noughties.  We've prioritised talls and unlike the noughties we have a lot of promising prospects.  In the noughties, we prioritised elite mids, traded away our only elite young KPP (JK) and hoped to find some tall talent outside the top 10 (and failed spectacularly).

But now 3 of our best mids are aging and we'll need replacements soon: Murphy, Gibbs and Simmo.  We don't want to repeat the mistakes of the last rebuild by falling prey to an obsession to continually add to our strength while forgetting about our weakness.

We'll need to use our early picks/tradebait to go after elite mids, either in the draft or through trades.  We'll have to pay over the odds to get Schache.  Let's take the time to see if Charlie, Harry, JSOS and BSOS (Ben) and the Bolt can do the job first.

My read on it is that we are "going to the draft" this year, and next year will make a big play. Tom Lynch is a free agent next year, top up the mids this year and go hard for Tom, a Blairgowie boy, for 2019....

I would not be keen on what amounts to a swap of Cas for Tippett.

I would not be keen on what amounts to a swap of Cas for Tippett.

.............. I imagine Casboult would net us a second rounder as compensation.  I would estimate that would be his value on the open market.

I know what you are saying, but its about team balance with greater potential for output.  Tippet would absolutely be of greater help to Kreuzer in the ruck and around the ground, and if we got him as a delisted free agent (not as a trade), and lose Casboult as a free agent via the free agency compensation model, I imagine Casboult would net us a second rounder as compensation.  I would estimate that would be his value on the open market.

Im looking to strengthen our hand for the draft, and not weaken our team structure which is what I imagine SOS is trying to achieve at the trade table each time.