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Showed more in his first game than Mitchell, McCarthy, Casboult and Watson have in their whole career.

It's a bit rough lumping Casboult in with that lot LP but you're not far off the mark 

I dont think its fair based on one factor.  The positive performance of Casboult has directly effected at least 2 results for our mens seniors let alone the VFL seniors.

Aside from the two games, he kicked 3 goals against the Bombers when we mauled them in 2012.

His better performances were actually against Brisbane, the Doggies and Richmond in that same year.

That game against Essendon everyone had a huge day.

Was pretty good against GWS in 2013 too.

Quote from: Thryleon on April 09, 2014, 03:55:15 pm

Aside from the two games, he kicked 3 goals against the Bombers when we mauled them in 2012.

His better performances were actually against Brisbane, the Doggies and Richmond in that same year.

That game against Essendon everyone had a huge day.

Was pretty good against GWS in 2013 too.

Hmm, think carefully, are you sure?

Yes.  I'm sure.  Just like I'm sure you shall spew forth some ruck work response which doesn't take into consideration where Levi has come from to get where we are today and theft that he is a forward who can help in the ruck, rather than a ruckman and should therefore not be graded according to conventional ruck KPI's.

@Vfl level he kicked a lazy 5 goals for the bullets in an elimination final.

Showed more in his first game than Mitchell, McCarthy, Casboult and Watson have in their whole career.

Quote from: LP on April 09, 2014, 11:18:46 am

Showed more in his first game than Mitchell, McCarthy, Casboult and Watson have in their whole career.

I just proved to you, that this was a false statement.

This is the origin point of the discussion.

The fact that you are bringing in Kreuzer in to the discussion also proves that I knew you were going to discuss his rucking ability.  In reality, its not important. We lack Key forwards, and comparing a rookie that made it to AFL footy to a number 1 draft pick is the most laughable part of the discussion.


The sad part?  Levi has kicked 3 goals in one match during his career.  From memory that would equal Matthew Kreuzer's game high record goals kicked wouldnt it?  The sample population of matches, and the original talent level for both players are worlds apart to go with that, which speaks for just how wrong our club gets the developement of footballers.

I dont think its fair based on one factor.  The positive performance of Casboult has directly effected at least 2 results for our mens seniors let alone the VFL seniors.

Something that the others cannot even hope to boast as yet.

Lets not forget the relative obscurity Casboult has come from to join us as opposed to Byrne who although is new to AFL is a star in his own right back in Ireland.

Interesting, Kreuzer didnt play in the 2012 Doggies game with Casboult.

Casboults good AFL form and Kreuzer playing are not mutually exclusive, ergo proving you incorrect.

Meanwhile how harsh are you being, the guy hasnt even reached 20 AFL games yet!

Lets use him as a litmus test comparison to a solid yet uninspiring mainly forward and see whether or not his career is going okay:

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/C/Chris_Dawes.html

Lets not forget that Casboult has played his footy in a team with no big target like Travis Cloke to share the workload forward, and that Collingwood were a top 4 proposition in the years that Dawes played his early football.  We also use Casboult in the ruck more than Chris Dawes would have played there at the pies.

Then you have to consider our forward structure, and our sub standard delivery to tall targets over the last few years.

So at the moment I would say he is coming along okay.  He might forge a decent career for himself if we were a little more understanding and forgiving of the fact that this bloke has not played much footy to match the high expectations that people have on him.