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Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #210 –
Quote from: laj on
Not so much miles away, we don't work hard enough on a consistent basis. Embedded over the last 20 years.

That worries me Jim. Not working hard enough for 20 years sounds like a very serious problem that will be extremely hard to fix.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #211 –
Quote from: laj on
Not so much miles away, we don't work hard enough on a consistent basis. Embedded over the last 20 years.

Yep,I'm envious.....

Good on the swans.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #212 –
Quote from: flyboy77 on
hope teague makes our lads watch the way the Swans are going about it....

(before tomorrow)

Shows what a good culture and good system can do.  Big turnover in players, doesn’t matter, just keep the course. 

Longmire, Clarkson (as much as I hate him) and Hardwick (don’t like him much either) bloody good at it. Set the culture and almost doesn’t matter the cattle you have
 

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #213 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
That worries me Jim. Not working hard enough for 20 years sounds like a very serious problem that will be extremely hard to fix.

It certainly has been. Become a habit. That's the tough task for our coach. Made us very competitive but we lose too many by not switching on too often.

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #214 –
Yep.   A bunch of kids and no names flogs the reigning premier.   Meanwhile we're neck deep in the same old ordure. Because their culture is first class and our I'd a deadset joke.

Sorry,  but playing the likes of Murphy is just prolonging the pain and epitomises our entrenched problems.   Gotta rip the band aid off and start afresh,  not keeping going back to the same old well.   It hasn't been good enough for 15 years,  why stick with the same names?
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #215 –
Quote from: laj on
It certainly has been. Become a habit. That's the tough task for our coach. Made us very competitive but we lose too many by not switching on too often.

Murphy needs to be only played in 'easy' games if our objective is to nurse him to 300.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #216 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
Watching the Swans today makes me very envious. This is what I expected us to become and God knows we've been trying long enough. From what I've seen so far we are miles away.
Swans have done very well out of their academy, one of our problems is that teams like the Swans dont stay down for long and allow us easy passage up the ladder. They are already rebuilding well, are competitive again and never seem to fall off a cliff like we have seen with the Crows last season and now Nth.

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #217 –
What happened to earning games?   Does he get gifted games just because he had a good one back in the day? 
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #218 –
I'm not quite sure where this idea of gifting games to Murphy comes from. Somehow, I seriously doubt it.

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Reply #219 –
Quote from: PaulP on
I'm not quite sure where this idea of gifting games to Murphy comes from. Somehow, I seriously doubt it.

well, looks like he's lining up tomorrow....
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #220 –
Quote from: PaulP on
I'm not quite sure where this idea of gifting games to Murphy comes from. Somehow, I seriously doubt it.

So we don't have anyone good enough to displace him?
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #221 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
So we don't have anyone good enough to displace him?

If Murphy is playing solely as a small forward, Betts at 44 is far better than him.

And quietly likely Owies and the new kid from SA (Durdin?) are just as deserving of a spot.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #222 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
So we don't have anyone good enough to displace him?

I think it's a figment of supporters' imaginations. The MC has decided whatever his good and bad points, that what he brings is better than the alternatives.

And in the unlikely event that he is being gifted games, you can shut this site down, and send the entire club packing to the Kerguelen Islands. And we then spend our time on some other, at least remotely productive endeavour. It would be shocking beyond belief, if true.

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Reply #223 –
Quote from: flyboy77 on
If Murphy is playing solely as a small forward, Betts at 44 is far better than him.

And quietly likely Owies and the new kid from SA (Durdin?) are just as deserving of a spot.

Stick murphy back in the midfield and see how that goes. No good there then we have to think about it.

Re: Pre Game Preparations: AFL 2021 R3 Carlton vs Fremantle at Marvel

Reply #224 –
Quote from: Professer E on
Yep.   A bunch of kids and no names flogs the reigning premier.   Meanwhile we're neck deep in the same old ordure. Because their culture is first class and our I'd a deadset joke.

Sorry,  but playing the likes of Murphy is just prolonging the pain and epitomises our entrenched problems.   Gotta rip the band aid off and start afresh,  not keeping going back to the same old well.   It hasn't been good enough for 15 years,  why stick with the same names?
Yep, you look at the Dogs and they are prepared to drop regulars like Mitch Wallis and play kids like Vandermeer and McNeil.
We keep players like Murphy and Curnow in the team to keep our heads above water but we never actually progress anywhere and just tread water. Beveridge is a weirdo but at the same time has a ruthless streak in terms of what he demands, his older players know they have to perform to keep their place. JJ was a premiership wing/half back but didnt want to contest properly after that and bludged for the easy ball, was dropped after signing a long term deal, has had to fight his way back into the team....our standards are different and until we get ruthless our results will stay poor.