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Reply #1965 –
FMD, one minute the doctors are telling us they have put Trump on a cocktail of otherwise untested(in context of COVID) and aggressive drugs centred around powerful steroids, then Trump is out "spreading the word" that it was just the like Flu!

Because we all take a bunch of Off-Label use drugs when we get a cold, just to try something different! :o

FYI, "Off-Label" means using a drug in a regime that it isn't officially tested or approved for, in effect an experimental treatment!

The key to dealing with SARS-CoV-2 seems to be;
 - First prevention, it's better than a cure.
 - Second, early detection, the sooner they find an infection that sooner they can treat it!

These are both things Trump denies the US population, yet he seems to be a significant beneficiary of early detection!
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #1966 –
Quote from: LP on
FMD, one minute the doctors are telling us they have put Trump on a cocktail of otherwise untested(in context of COVID) and aggressive drugs centred around powerful steroids, then Trump is out "spreading the word" that it was just the like Flu!

Because we all take a bunch of Off-Label use drugs when we get a cold, just to try something different! :o

FYI, "Off-Label" means using a drug in a regime that it isn't officially tested or approved for, in effect an experimental treatment!

The key to dealing with SARS-CoV-2 seems to be;
 - First prevention, it's better than a cure.
 - Second, early detection, the sooner they find an infection that sooner they can treat it!

These are both things Trump denies the US population, yet he seems to be a significant beneficiary of early detection!

Let's see how many US citizens, who contract C-19, get free or low cost access to the drugs that the Orange Rodent did.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #1967 –
This is going to be so interesting to see how it plays out. 

A few scenarios.

1.  Trump doesnt actually have COVID and this is just a ruse.

2.  He has COVID, and its not that bad and the world has been over reacting.

3.  He has COVID and its actually bad and he gets seriously ill irrespective of what happens with the election whether he wins or loses.

We wont find out for sure, for some time.





"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #1968 –
Scenario 1 doesn’t fly. If he wanted to do this, he could have just stayed in the White House as he did initially and then say he beat it easily b/c he’s an Aryan Superman. Why would he concede that it got to him badly enough to require oxygen, an airlift to a hospital, and then serious drug interventions? If this scenario were true, does this mean that all of his aides & the 3 GOP Senators who’ve tested positive after the ill-fated SCOTUS announcement were also faking it? And would such a ruse be worth his inability to attend rallies for some time despite early voting being underway already?

Scenario 2 is funny. I repeat the stuff about the airlift to hospital and emergency treatment with drugs. If it wasn’t that bad, surely that means Trump overreacted. After all, he was the one who called for the airlift & drug treatment. So I guess Trump’s a major snowflake. And if it wasn’t that bad, surely he would have authorised his personal osteopath to give out all the remarkable medical details which would have enabled the world to marvel at this modern medical miracle. Instead, Trump acted like Basil Fawlty - don’t mention the war, or the oxygen, or the details about the lungs, or how high the temperature was etc etc.

Funny thing is that Chris Cuomo continued to host his CNN show from his basement while seriously affected by Covid. He complained of trouble breathing and that he had ‘rigors’ (spasms causing teeth to chatter etc.) By comparison, what has Trump done apart from walk up some stairs & stand on a balcony? Tough guy my ar$e ...

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Reply #1969 –
By the way, I hope Kamala Harris’ advisers are preparing her for a Trump showstopper: getting Pence to blow past the Perspex dividers in order to approach her for a handshake. Yes, it’s clearly against the rules Pence agreed to, but Trump flouted rules he agreed to in the 1st debate. He arrived late so the hosts couldn’t test him as arranged and then assured them he tested negative at the White House (which now seems to be a lie). Then he his family walked in with masks on and then all took them off when they sat down, refusing to put them back on when approached by organisers.

Clearly, Trump would love to run ads featuring a horrified Harris backing away from a friendly Pence. That’s the sort of dominance display he wants. If I were her adviser, I’d make sure she can legally carry pepper spray to the podium and make sure she can spray him in the eyes as soon as he passes the divider. Seeing Pence writhe in pain on the ground would subvert the dominance display. It would also be a great juxtaposition with the shameful scenes of Trump’s militias using teargas to clear peaceful protestors so he could have a photo op while holding a Bible at a church.

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Reply #1971 –
Trump is having a ball on his medication and sounds like he's lost the plot - messages from god and now announcing that he'll give the medication he got to all Americans for free...  :))  :))  :))  big pharma is gonna love hearing that, along with many of his Republican buddies...
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #1972 –
Quote from: Baggers on
Trump is having a ball on his medication and sounds like he's lost the plot - messages from god and now announcing that he'll give the medication he got to all Americans for free...  :))  :))  :))  big pharma is gonna love hearing that, along with many of his Republican buddies...
How did he get COVID, he was taking HCQ which he claimed prevented COVID? ::)

I assume all those around him were on it too, given how cheap, effective and widely available it is! Yet those around him are falling to COVID like flies in a freezer, what happened did they run out of HCQ? Did Trump buy it all up and forget to give those around him a dose? ;D

Am I cynical to think he has shares in some or all of those related companies? ;)
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #1973 –
Pence easily won that, Harris looked out of her depth.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #1974 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Pence easily won that, Harris looked out of her depth.
@madbluboy‍

I didn't watch or listen to it, but the early polls have Harris winning in a landslide at a 3:1 approval ratio! :o

The US is very different to here, they vote on emotion and rhetoric, not policy!
The Force Awakens!
 

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Reply #1975 –
Quote from: LP on
@madbluboy‍

I didn't watch or listen to it, but the early polls have Harris winning in a landslide at a 3:1 approval ratio! :o

The US is very different to here, they vote on emotion and rhetoric, not policy!

I had the day off and watched it, Pence won easily.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #1976 –
Quote from: LP on
@madbluboy‍

I didn't watch or listen to it, but the early polls have Harris winning in a landslide at a 3:1 approval ratio! :o

The US is very different to here, they vote on emotion and rhetoric, not policy!
I'm pretty sure FOX will give it to Pence and CNN will give it to Harris.

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Reply #1977 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
I had the day off and watched it, Pence won easily.

Pence was superb and countered her easily.  Playing the gender card doesn't work anymore.

EDIT - the moderator was not up to her job either ... maybe even a little bit biased toward Pence with regard to running over allotted time

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Reply #1978 –
I thought Pence won comfortably, Harris made some facial gestures when Pence talked that made her look immature and bratish.
Harris had a good moment talking about Obamacare but didnt handle the tax/economy stuff well IMO and I thought the relaxed smooth approach of Pence was a polar opposite of Harris who only settled when she rambled on about how her and sleepy Joe had similar upbringings/values etc and how proud she was to receive the phone call from Joe, but never actually answered the question. Both Biden and her struggle with the economy and business side of running a country and are much better when it comes to dealing with questions that have a more human focus.
Reckon Trump would be satisfied with Pence but IMO is still a long way off reversing the polls and will lose unless something dramatically changes.

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Reply #1979 –
Hmmm ... I’m guessing the posters who say Pence won are white guys (correct me if I’m wrong). No criticism there: I’m a white guy too. But would women and people of colour agree? It looks like Trump has a massive problem with women and I doubt they would have been impressed by Pence’s dominance displays such as interrupting and blowing past agreed time limits. I doubt black women in particular would have been impressed by Trump telling Fox that Harris came across as a monster.

The problem with saying X won the debate is that the only result that matters is whether the debate changed minds. Treating it as an academic exercise is missing the point. Both made sure they didn’t alienate those who are currently leaning towards voting for their tickets. The problem is that there’s more leaning towards Biden and historically VP debates don’t change momentum very much.