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Reply #2505 –
Quote from: LP on
I'm shocked but not really surprised by how quickly Murdoch has turned on Trump.

It seems once his print journalism group flipped the broadcast media groups followed suit very quickly, almost in the space of a breath!

It seems the dollar rule$, does that mean Trump hasn't got any?

Is it true that the donations for Trump fighting fund include a fine print rider that declares the funds can be redirected to cover the budget blow out from his campaigning overspend?

Yep, that was indeed an interesting manouevre.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #2506 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
Just a small technical point LP, Trump is still officially POTUS. I also read that Biden is not yet President elect until the election results are ratified.

Yes, the POTUS retains his position until the inauguration of the new POTUS.  However, there's no formal process for determining the president-elect as such.  It's more or less a colloquial term for the person who appears to have won a conclusive majority of electoral college votes.  By tradition, the president-elect is "declared" by media networks.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #2507 –
Quote from: cookie2 on
Just a small technical point LP, Trump is still officially POTUS. I also read that Biden is not yet President elect until the election results are ratified.
Corrected.

Always happy to be corrected @cookie2 , no need for an apology being wrong and admitting it is a grown up part of life!
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Reply #2508 –
Quote from: Mav on
Thryleon, I don’t disagree that the issue of consent can be fraught. I personally think the suggestion that there needs to be a verbal call out of consents like 2 pilots going through a check list is going too far, e.g. “May I now move my hand from your left breast to your right breast?” But that’s not what we’re talking about here.

We all know going in for a 1st kiss should be a slow move, both for romantic and consent reasons. Giving the woman a chance to say no or turn her head is important. Pouncing on a woman you haven’t even met carries with it the prospect of an assault charge. And grabbing their pussies before you’ve said a word to them is even more risky.

This was the behaviour he was describing.

Inference yours regarding behaviour and what he was describing.  The fact you can find people who support that narrative says a bit about our society.  I could also point to people sharing my opinion, but we are playing the commentary (again at face value) and assuming that stars get their fair share of women who will throw themelves at them.  Why they do it, is beyond me but the fact it happens is well known, understood, and for the most part, doesnt matter.

Likewise, I cannot infer that Biden is a paedo based on the stuff thats online about him.

If you go searching for information you want to see, you might find it and about people who you would never consider to be that way inclined, and all that tells me, is that there is confirmation bias everywhere, and we need only look at the response to the COVID situation to find out exactly how that can polarise everyone in different ways that you wouldnt even think of.  Before anyone can jump on me, I am going to mention 5G here, as how this happens.

Ive heard a lot of stories over the years.  Often, there is a lot of fruit salad, exaggeration and half truths to stories, and what that has taught me is to ignore everything you hear, and mistrust even what your eyes are telling you, because very occasionally our biases skew our viewpoints so much, that we often ignore what is actually true. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #2509 –
He never claimed women threw themselves at him. If he’d done that, maybe people would have thought he was deluded but that would have been it. If he’d said he could chat women up so well that they were putty in his hands, same thing. But taking what you want is quite another thing. Anyway, let’s agree to disagree. I’m sure there are those who think like I do and there are those who agree with you. What the split is is anyone’s guess and given the failure of the polls in this election there’s not much chance of figuring it out.
 

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Reply #2511 –
I really can't get too outraged by any of that vision.
I see a 77 year old man trying to make kids feel a bit comfortable and having perhaps the opposite effect because of changing times.
The hands on the shoulders thing seems to be a common trait for Biden... men, women and children of all ages.
The hand around the waists is at a level where his arm ends.
It's not something I'd do in this day and age....But It's something that was probably quite common and not raise an eyebrow in the generation before mine.
My Dad used to steer me by the shoulders.

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Reply #2512 –
That's it, I was expecting / dreading a Rudy Giuliani style video, or a Trumpesque grope?

Rather I think it's now a bit more of a disturbing insight into the mindset of the people asserting the claims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEGFaOeUm2A
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Reply #2513 –
Interested in the election fraud conspiracies circulating amongst QAnon & rightwingers?

Apparently, QAnon conspiracists are a bit lost and confused. After all, Trump was supposed to be Q and he was working with the FBI and military to bring down the “cabal” (Satanic Democrat paedophiles) in an event called “the Storm” when Democrats including Hillary Clinton were to be rounded up and locked up. This was supposed to happen in 2017, but QAnon believers are nothing if not patient. The latest twist intended to explain Trump’s loss to Biden is that Trump had a cunning plan. He got his homeland security people to insert invisible code onto mail-in ballots so that the Democrats would unwittingly fall into the trap of forging ballots. Now it’s just a matter of time until Trump does the big reveal and all votes for Biden are obliterated.

The other conspiracy theory paints the Democrats as ultimate Bond villains. Supposedly, the Democrats got their hands on the Hammer Supercomputer which is more powerful than any weapon Ernst Blofeld could hope to own. But wait ... there’s more! Hammer was coupled with the incredible Scorecard software and together they allowed the Democrats to change 3% of the votes.

Of course, some wet blankets are not buying these 2 brilliant stories. The amended QAnon theory seems to require a centralised print company responsible for all ballot papers but in reality the printing is the responsibility of the various states which arrange for printing in their own States. And the guy who is responsible for the Hammer and Scorecard story is a well-known hoaxer: Infamous ‘Hoax’ Artist Behind Trumpworld’s New Voter Fraud Claim, Daily Beast.

The above article is an amazing read. The hoaxer fooled the CIA and George W. Bush into believing that Al Jazeera broadcasts contained secret Al Qaeda traffic. Bush was almost at the point of shooting down 2 incoming French passenger jets on the strength of this guy’s claims. Fortunately, he forced them to turn around instead ...

Of course, this crap won’t go anywhere in Court. But if it can be whipped up into a scandal, naive or nefarious State Governors or legislatures might be persuaded to ignore the vote and send a slate of Trump electors to the Electoral College to throw the election his way.

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Reply #2514 –
Super computer v Russian hackers. Like I said they're as bad as each other.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #2515 –
Quote from: Lods on
I really can't get too outraged by any of that vision.
I see a 77 year old man trying to make kids feel a bit comfortable and having perhaps the opposite effect because of changing times.
The hands on the shoulders thing seems to be a common trait for Biden... men, women and children of all ages.
The hand around the waists is at a level where his arm ends.
It's not something I'd do in this day and age....But It's something that was probably quite common and not raise an eyebrow in the generation before mine.
My Dad used to steer me by the shoulders.

Would you leave him alone with your grand kids?
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #2516 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Would you leave him alone with your grand kids?
That's a bit disturbing, the idea you are selecting some strangers to leave in charge of your grand-kids! :o

I suspect there are some grandparents floating around that struggle to leave their grand-kids with the kids parents! ;D
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Reply #2517 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Would you leave him alone with your grand kids?

Probably.
He's the President elect of the United States.
It would be a great experience for them.

Seriously....
How many unfamiliar adults would you leave your grandkids alone with.
The thing about groomers of children though is that they are experts at the secret stuff.
They don't carry out their evil practices at special political events in front of a dozen cameras.

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Reply #2518 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Super computer v Russian hackers. Like I said they're as bad as each other.
Definitely. In the same way Jaws from Moonraker was as bad as Julian Knight. Except of course one is real and the other is fictional.

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Reply #2519 –
Quote from: Lods on
I really can't get too outraged by any of that vision.
I see a 77 year old man trying to make kids feel a bit comfortable and having perhaps the opposite effect because of changing times.
The hands on the shoulders thing seems to be a common trait for Biden... men, women and children of all ages.
The hand around the waists is at a level where his arm ends.
It's not something I'd do in this day and age....But It's something that was probably quite common and not raise an eyebrow in the generation before mine.
My Dad used to steer me by the shoulders.

Exactly Lods.  I forced myself to watch most of the "pedophile" compilation and I reckon you'd be hard-pressed to find any footage that simply didn't show an older bloke trying to put young kids at ease. 
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball