Carlton Supporters Club

The election was not a shock, people need to wake up and stop believing what the media tell you to believe.

Hillary  was never going to beat Trump , Bernie Sanders would have won all those close states she lost.

The election was not a shock, people need to wake up and stop believing what the media tell you to believe.

Hillary  was never going to beat Trump , Bernie Sanders would have won all those close states she lost.

The media is owned and operated by oligarchs and promotes their interests. This will be a challenge for Trump and it will be interesting to see how he meets this. There has been speculation that he would launch his own media empire but I'm not sure how that would work now he is president elect?

Who exactly is assassinating him? Not sure Democrats are pro
Gun and violence - that's Republican voters.

As someone said, he'll just be the loud mouthed figure head just like George W - others will be in charge.

Gee Pauline Hansen is thrilled. Say no more 

Pauline being thrilled is of little consequence, but Vladimir Putin being delighted is a whole other worry.  Don't think I'd like to be living in any of the Baltic states for the next few years......

Pauline being thrilled is of little consequence, but Vladimir Putin being delighted is a whole other worry.  Don't think I'd like to be living in any of the Baltic states for the next few years......

I'd think the Black Sea states will have a bigger issue given the previous blockades of the Dardanelles and Bosphorous!

If the media owners still had power he wouldn't be President, he has been overtly anti-the-established-media from the start of his campaign. The media thought they could build up their ratings using his sensationalism, then tear him down at the appropriate time, instead as the finish line approached he kicked them in the balls and crossed the line first!

Social media is undermining the influence of the established media and at the moment they are powerless to do anything about it, their revenue streams have shrunk massively. Unless of course they can get control of the likes of Facebook, Google and Twitter.

The Mainstream scoffed at the likes of Michael Moore, among many others, telling them what was happening in the back blocks. They refused to believe that California and Washington would bow down to the Midland states, that Bernie Sanders would have won, and that Trump resonates with the disenchanted everywhere.

I watched The Project last night, the likes of Waleed Aly and Carrie Bickmore pondering how can it be. They think that they speak for Joe Average, that they are part of the mainstream, they don't get that they are viewed as elite! Yet I wonder if they have ever asked, "Do you know who I am?" This sort of incredible foolishness is rife through the media, people that think they are one with the crew in the front bar!

The local equivalents of Michael Moore have been warning for some time that if our current parliament and media don't get their sh1te in order we will see the very same result next election, with the far right parties like Family First and The Hanson United Australia Party being the beneficiaries.

I find it ironic that the likes of Bolt are painting this as a result of the Left's arrogance, while the Left commentary claims it's the rise of the Extremist Right. Of course they are both to blame, as will be the case here in Australia, because they have become so similar and so disconnected from Joe Average, especially in the way they pander to minorities.

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I watched The Project last night, the likes of Waleed Aly and Carrie Bickmore pondering how can it be. They think that they speak for Joe Average, that they are part of the mainstream, they don't get that they are viewed as elite! Yet I wonder if they have ever asked, "Do you know who I am?" This sort of incredible foolishness is rife through the media, people that think they are one with the crew in the front bar!

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The whole Caucasus/Central Asian area has been and will be a key strategic area of conflict and one that the US has been very keen to control and influence - oil, gas, pipelines and geographically strategic. Be interesting to see how that plays out now between Trump and Putin.

I don't watch the show, but Aly doesn't strike me as the "I think I speak for all Australians" type. He takes a position based on some sort of logic and intelligence, which is much better than the Bolts and Alan Jones' of this world. I would imagine he would, like most of those in the media, speak mainly for himself, expecting others who share his ideals and thought processes to come along for the ride. Unlike the right wing shock jocks, he does at least make some attempt to appeal to our better side. Whether or not "all Australians" agree with him is frankly irrelevant.

Quite apart from any of this, there's no such group as "all Australians".