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Another Hawthorn win and I'm frustrated. We do not have much idea how to kick goals.
Can we find something against the 'Aints? Well, if this game is an 'honourable loss' I'm going to be honourably upset.

Another Hawthorn win and I'm frustrated. We do not have much idea how to kick goals.
Can we find something against the 'Aints? Well, if this game is an 'honourable loss' I'm going to be honourably upset.

We all look for the answers to our goal famine , but it's a skill set, which our current crop of players don't have. It's instinctive skill to turn a half chance into a score . It's not a teachable thing , it's in bred , so if our current players don't have it , need different players. No point running out the same players Into the paddock, you will get the same result. No scores on a regular basis.

we've probably reached close to the full potential of our current list.

we've probably reached close to the full potential of our current list. We need to bring in some higher skilled talent next year, there's not a lot in the NBs from all accounts.

I reckon there's heaps of potential in our list but possibly not in the one area that's crying out for improvement; midfielders and defenders who can deliver the ball to the forwards.  Of course, we have Murphy to come back and David Cuningham could be OK if he can get fit and do a full pre-season.  Billy Gowers is another who has shown a bit.

Four or five midfielders/small forwards who are upgrades on Lamb, Sumner, Graham, Whiley, Buckley, etc and we'd match it with most sides.

I was referring to the list as a whole DJC. There are no doubt some talented players and some individuals who will no doubt improve further. However, taken as a whole I do not think it is capable of becoming premiership material, by a long way, without the injection of some serious talent particularly in the area you have mentioned, plus a good KPF. We have seen now two or three performances that have shown we are really pushing the envelope of our team's ability, for which they all should be applauded, but.....enter SOS.

. . . there are metrics that indicate strong effort and a game style/method that will put us in good shape for the future, as well as measurable evidence of learning.

I don't agree Cookie.  Even with our obvious deficiencies we have been competitive against top 4 teams, our disposal efficiency has skyrocketed and were executing the coach's plans pretty well.  As Trigg's email says;

Informed drafting and some judicious trades to bolster the midfield and add depth and we'll be flying 

PS I'd like to know what the "metrics" are 

I think that's what I was saying?  We won't be flying anywhere unless we do that. Being competitive with but heroically losing to a top side and beating that top side are a long way apart IMO, especially a team like the Hawks. We won't become ultimately successful until we fix our major deficiencies otherwise we'll end up in the same old place of relying too much on too few.