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Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: kruddler on June 11, 2014, 06:27:55 pm

Title: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: kruddler on June 11, 2014, 06:27:55 pm
So i've long been a critic of Robbo and his inability to find a teammate with the ball. Despite his best Miley Cyrus impersonations, a lot of his hard work is for nothing and can be counter productive.

I've recently noticed that he could be a very important player for us if we made a move.
Play him as a marking Half forward, ala Adrian Hickmott.

For those who cannot recall, Hickmott, was a medium sized player with a large sized heart and scrotum.
He was a team player that never died wondering and did the 1%ers.
He was a terrific mark for his size.
He was a decent shot at goal.
He loved a scuffle.
He was a very important player for the Blues despite him not being blessed with the skills/speed/endurance of the modern day footballer.
He was also a ranger with short hair.

Now mitch has been predominantly used as a midfielder who drifts forward, or can sometimes be played as a defensive forward.
I reckon we should use him as a more permanent forward. He will provide us with the defensive pressure we require up forward. He will no longer hurt us with his rainmakers. He will impact the scoreboard.

What do you reckon?
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: PaulP on June 11, 2014, 06:48:47 pm
 I think there's scope for him to spend more time forward, but personally I wouldn't want him there permanently. Given where he's at now, if he spent say another 20% time up forward, that would do me.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 11, 2014, 06:57:14 pm
So i've long been a critic of Robbo and his inability to find a teammate with the ball. Despite his best Miley Cyrus impersonations, a lot of his hard work is for nothing and can be counter productive.

I've recently noticed that he could be a very important player for us if we made a move.
Play him as a marking Half forward, ala Adrian Hickmott.

For those who cannot recall, Hickmott, was a medium sized player with a large sized heart and scrotum.
He was a team player that never died wondering and did the 1%ers.
He was a terrific mark for his size.
He was a decent shot at goal.
He loved a scuffle.
He was a very important player for the Blues despite him not being blessed with the skills/speed/endurance of the modern day footballer.
He was also a ranger with short hair.

Now mitch has been predominantly used as a midfielder who drifts forward, or can sometimes be played as a defensive forward.
I reckon we should use him as a more permanent forward. He will provide us with the defensive pressure we require up forward. He will no longer hurt us with his rainmakers. He will impact the scoreboard.

What do you reckon?
I reckon thats a great idea.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: kruddler on June 11, 2014, 07:17:28 pm
Also gives mick another option should things not be going to well for us.

Send Robbo into the midfield

aka...
(http://diegodn.info/diegodn/uploads/blog/2013/11/Unleash-Hell.jpg)
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: LordLucifer on June 11, 2014, 07:23:18 pm
There is one flaw in this plan and its quite significant.

There are some strong similiarities between Hickmott & Robinson but whenever Hickmott had to take an important set shot, he nailed it. Robinson is a bit like Casboult, no-one knows where it will end up.   
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: kruddler on June 11, 2014, 07:28:44 pm
There is one flaw in this plan and its quite significant.

There are some strong similiarities between Hickmott & Robinson but whenever Hickmott had to take an important set shot, he nailed it. Robinson is a bit like Casboult, no-one knows where it will end up.  

Robinson is a much better set shot than Casboult.
Robinson is a much better shot at goal than he is when having a shot on the run.

You'd actually be surprised how good of a shot he is...and he takes a lot of shots from 50m
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: LordLucifer on June 11, 2014, 07:33:17 pm
There is one flaw in this plan and its quite significant.

There are some strong similiarities between Hickmott & Robinson but whenever Hickmott had to take an important set shot, he nailed it. Robinson is a bit like Casboult, no-one knows where it will end up.  

Robinson is a much better set shot than Casboult.
Robinson is a much better shot at goal than he is when having a shot on the run.

You'd actually be surprised how good of a shot he is...and he takes a lot of shots from 50m

I'm a better set shot than Casboult so that isn't saying much.

Is he as reliable as Hickmott was though ?? I highly doubt it !!
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 11, 2014, 08:00:15 pm
There is one flaw in this plan and its quite significant.

There are some strong similiarities between Hickmott & Robinson but whenever Hickmott had to take an important set shot, he nailed it. Robinson is a bit like Casboult, no-one knows where it will end up.  
Disagree strongly, Casboult is terrible ATM. Robbo is generally a very good kick for goal. You're onto something here Krud.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 11, 2014, 08:15:47 pm
There is one flaw in this plan and its quite significant.

There are some strong similiarities between Hickmott & Robinson but whenever Hickmott had to take an important set shot, he nailed it. Robinson is a bit like Casboult, no-one knows where it will end up.  

Robinson is a much better set shot than Casboult.
Robinson is a much better shot at goal than he is when having a shot on the run.

You'd actually be surprised how good of a shot he is...and he takes a lot of shots from 50m

I'm a better set shot than Casboult so that isn't saying much.

Is he as reliable as Hickmott was though ?? I highly doubt it !!
Mitch's first 5 yrs of AFL, he kicked 52G 52B (0.59G per game). In Hicky's first 5 yrs, he kicked 37G 42B (0.51G per game), just saying.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on June 11, 2014, 08:31:13 pm
Hickmott changed his kicking action under the tutelage of Wayne Brittain and became a dead eye dick from set shots. He was 83.42 in his last four years.

There are some similarities though Hickmott had a touch of class IMO.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: kruddler on June 11, 2014, 08:37:04 pm
Hickmott changed his kicking action under the tutelage of Wayne Brittain and became a dead eye dick. There are some similarities though Hickmott had a touch of class IMO.
He only had class later in his career.

As g2c stated, 5 years in, they are on a par.

FWIW, only 1 of those years was Hicky at Carlton.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: Jean-Claude on June 11, 2014, 10:08:20 pm
Me like. Use him to our advantage, will try and mark anything in his postcode and he is a pretty decent mark as he never shutters from contact and might draw a few free kicks. Not to mention, his pressure and he will most likely crash some packs. Then chuck him in a few centre bounces for a bit of chaos when needed. Will complement the class of Menzel nicely.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: ItsOurTime on June 12, 2014, 08:49:46 am
Since Eddie left and Garlett struggles for a game. I think we could use Robbo's pressure in the forward line. The ball comes out of our forward line so easily sometimes...
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: Brettie on June 12, 2014, 12:35:22 pm
Although I agree that Robbo would be a more than handy permanent forward (good hands overhead, excellent leap, nimble on his feet, forward pressure personified)....can you imagine a forward line containing Robbo, Levi and Waite - arguably the worst 3 shots at goal in the AFL? *shudder*
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: denimundies on June 12, 2014, 01:02:25 pm
Although I agree that Robbo would be a more than handy permanent forward (good hands overhead, excellent leap, nimble on his feet, forward pressure personified)....can you imagine a forward line containing Robbo, Levi and Waite - arguably the worst 3 shots at goal in the AFL? *shudder*

lol true that
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 12, 2014, 01:12:33 pm
Trade bait for something equally as aggressive but with better skills..........I wouldnt want him kicking for goal to save my life either, he might be a better shot than Casboult but who isnt..

No one is saying give Robbo away but if we can gets something better then thats business
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: ItsOurTime on June 12, 2014, 02:12:53 pm
Trade bait for something equally as aggressive but with better skills.........

No one is going to give up something better than Robbo for Robbo. How would you sweeten the deal? Garlett? I think we need to keep or improve our draft picks so I'd be hesitant in giving them up if it doesn't get us a better pick in return.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on June 12, 2014, 02:22:35 pm
I reckon a side like North would be interested in that package maybe? I like Robbo personally.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: kruddler on June 12, 2014, 06:01:45 pm
Trade bait for something equally as aggressive but with better skills..........I wouldnt want him kicking for goal to save my life either, he might be a better shot than Casboult but who isnt..

No one is saying give Robbo away but if we can gets something better then thats business

Package him up for GWS who need a hitman to look after the kids?

Throw him in to get our big forward across the line.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: sandsmere on June 13, 2014, 08:54:48 am
Now you're talking Kruddler .  :)
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: kruddler on June 14, 2014, 08:44:18 am
So, bit of a breakout game for Robbo up forward today, perfect timing.

18 touches.
6 marks, 2 of them inside 50 and 1 contested.
8 tackles
and 3 goals 1.

I'd call that a success.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on June 14, 2014, 08:45:36 am
Big success. Just like Hicky, he really provided a target across half forward.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: PaulP on June 14, 2014, 08:46:11 am
So, bit of a breakout game for Robbo up forward today, perfect timing.

18 touches.
6 marks, 2 of them inside 50 and 1 contested.
8 tackles
and 3 goals 1.

I'd call that a success.

Yep, credit where it's due. Nice work Mitch and good call Kruds
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 14, 2014, 09:00:49 am
So, bit of a breakout game for Robbo up forward today, perfect timing.

18 touches.
6 marks, 2 of them inside 50 and 1 contested.
8 tackles
and 3 goals 1.

I'd call that a success.
BANG Krud
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: toddy on June 14, 2014, 10:55:40 am
Great call.

I'd still love to trade him for someone with a brain but this is definitely Mitch's best position.

In 2011 he used to play the defensive forward role and nailed it.

Keep him there or trade him.
Title: Re: Mitch Robinson --> Adrian Hickmott mark II!
Post by: Brettie on June 14, 2014, 02:00:21 pm
Surely he has to start as a forward for the rest of the year? I'm sure there'll be times he'll be summoned up the ground, but as a forward is where he must start.