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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: DJC on
We have been sending Cripps forward, and quite effectively too.

It really shouldn’t matter if the opposition sets out to limit Crippa’s influence.  Our other mids, and rucks, should take up the slack and allow him to play a little more as an outside mid.  His work as a link up player is invaluable and he can do that without having to get first hands to the ball at every contest. 

It would be nice to see our rucks and other mids putting more pressure on Crippa’s opponents too.

The skipper is a big fan of the two rucks and I don’t think that he’d accept that one quieter game from him is any reason to change.
Skipper is a big fan of having Pitto to rove too.....not necesarily 2 rucks.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by DJC -
Quote from: kruddler on
Just for something different....

Stop Cripps.
Stop Carlton.
OK, maybe.

What do we do when Cripps is getting beaten? Send him forward.
However, we already have Charlie, Harry and now TDK forward....can we afford to have Cripps there as well? Probably not.

So who is the weak link in that chain?

Yep, going back to the 1 ruck debate.
1 less ruck in the team means an extra midfielder and more flexibility/versatility with making moves.

I've been against it, but maybe its time to try TDK as a key back? We have extra talls good enough to play 1's, but running out of spots to play them all.....yet we have a big opening at CHB that we can't nail down. Why not TDK?

We have been sending Cripps forward, and quite effectively too.

It really shouldn’t matter if the opposition sets out to limit Crippa’s influence.  Our other mids, and rucks, should take up the slack and allow him to play a little more as an outside mid.  His work as a link up player is invaluable and he can do that without having to get first hands to the ball at every contest. 

It would be nice to see our rucks and other mids putting more pressure on Crippa’s opponents too.

The skipper is a big fan of the two rucks and I don’t think that he’d accept that one quieter game from him is any reason to change.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
Quote from: PaulP on
I would tend to agree DJC. The idea that stopping Cripps goes a long way to stopping Carlton is hardly new. Collingwood didn’t discover anything new. Cripps has been blocked, tagged and scragged his whole career. For whatever reason, we weren’t able to do anything about it.  The coaches’ votes make pretty clear that apart from Nick Daicos, no player on either team had a particularly great game.

Just for something different....

Stop Cripps.
Stop Carlton.
OK, maybe.

What do we do when Cripps is getting beaten? Send him forward.
However, we already have Charlie, Harry and now TDK forward....can we afford to have Cripps there as well? Probably not.

So who is the weak link in that chain?

Yep, going back to the 1 ruck debate.
1 less ruck in the team means an extra midfielder and more flexibility/versatility with making moves.

I've been against it, but maybe its time to try TDK as a key back? We have extra talls good enough to play 1's, but running out of spots to play them all.....yet we have a big opening at CHB that we can't nail down. Why not TDK?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by DJC -
I don't really get the criticism of Lewis Young.  He might provide a few heart in mouth moments but I thought that he defended very well against Collingwood and did the job on Cox and Cameron when they went forward.

Only two of Young's eight marks were contested but he led the way for us with nine 1%ers and only Nic Newman had more intercepts.  On top of that, he only had one turnover for the game, not bad for a "panic merchant".

I imagine that Weitering will take Van Rooyen and we'll need another tall KPD to go with Petty and Gawn when he goes forward.

I wouldn't play Kemp on Fritsch.  Fritsch is too elusive and would exploit Kemp when he provides the extra at marking contests.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Domestic violence and why the government will struggle to attention the problem.
Last post by Thryleon -
Quote from: Mantis on
Thank you guys for your kind thoughts.

I will do my best to answer any questions. Give me a little time to collect my thoughts please. I am In the process of selling my house. My deepest apologies.
Don't feel you have to answer to anything, you have already shared heaps.  Just makes me wonder.  I do that.  Its my nature.

Still don't understand it, but maybe thats part of the issue.  Its irrational and understanding the irrational is sometimes impossible.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by Thryleon -
At the ground, I saw Fantasia working back to cover Steele Sidebottom and giving Cotters a chop out.

Hes not amazing, but him and Durds were both getting up the ground a significant way.  Owies I like, hes dangerous.  The problem we had was probably more to do with our forward entries and where the ball was being put, rather than where the guys were and werent getting to. So many times, the ball was being rebounded, because we kicked to a contest where we were outnumbered.  The collingwood backs were working up and down the ground all day, and they had 2 additional days break to do so.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by WASurfer -
For me, Kemp comes in and gets first shot at Fritsch. He's got pace to go with him and match him in the air.

If McGovern and Martin pass fitness tests, play them. We might need one of the ruckmen pushing back when Gawn goes forward so Martin offers some marking ability forward. Martin isn't and has never been a high possession player......but surely offers more than Fantasia at the moment. But one more soft tissue injury this season for him and that's just about it.

IN:  McGovern, Martin, Kemp
OUT:  Young, Williams, Fantasia

I think Cincotta stays in.

Young just looks completely lost out there at the moment and is a panic merchant when he gets the ball. Williams was good early in the season with his kicking and run, but last week I lost count of how many panic dump kicks he did out of defence.

And one of Carroll or Binns as the sub.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by townsendcalling -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Martin is a 3rd tall in our forward line with no JSOS down there and is a marking target as well as a creative ground player.
Orazio and Durdin are traditional small forwards only so different players to Martin imho and not competing for the same position. I think Martin also makes  life easier for Charlie and Harry as that alternative target.
The player being missed is Fogarty who provides the extra pressure you need as the modern forward.
Playing both Orazio and Durdin in the same team doesn't work....

"The player being missed is Fogarty who provides the extra pressure you need as the modern forward."

Correct!! He provides what others fail to produce. Get Fogarty and Martin back into the forward line (as we had at the end of last year) and watch the ripple effect take place.