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Interesting perspective:
‘Health system in distress’: how ambulance ramping became a major problem, The Guardian.

In short, ambulance ramping is a problem across the States and increasing the number of ambulances isn’t the silver bullet. Access bottlenecks due to shortages of hospital staff and beds and the aged care sector’s reliance on hospitals were exacerbated by Covid.

So Brett Sutton has just announced in his own words ‘despite 2, 3 or 4 booster shots of covid vaccine the vaccine has now shown that it does not assist in preventing covid’

Who would have thought!!

So in other words we are all responsible for our own protection of covid and whether the guy beside you is vaccinated or not your risk of contracting covid does not change.

With that in mind why were unvaccinated forced to leave their positions as nurses, policemen construction, emergency works - oh except those in law (they were exempt) wonder why that was…….but that’s another story.  And unfairly blokes like Jones or Djokovic that decided they don’t want the vaccine were treated by the majority as outcasts and scumbags who only care about themself.

Our healthcare and emergency services are undermanned and under enormous pressure and how much I’m of that is due to not allowing the unvaccinated to keep their position, a position we need them more then ever now.

The pollies are a disgrace they lie stretch the truth deceive then when they are found out they are never dealt with they way the general public would have been and find a way to just continue on. They chop  and change the rules as it suits them and then demand we take their ‘health advice’ as though it’s gospel. Nothing can be further from the truth. I was conned into having the first double dose and still struggle with some of the side effects and have covid twice and as well as covid I’ve had the flu twice!  My last ‘cold’ I reckon was at least 3 years ago and don’t even remember when I had the flu last.
Got the vaccine and had them both twice in the last 18 months!! Really makes you wonder…..

Absolutely disgraceful how this pandemic has been handled and how those who stood their ground were treated. Time to admit they got it wrong and give the unvaccinated their jobs back.

This has been going on for the better part of 2.5 years now, but some people are still missing the basics.

No, it doesn't prevent Covid. Nobody said it did. You may be prevented from getting it, but at a minimum...
It limits the intensity,
which limits the amount of people who end up in ICU
which limits the amount of people we need to find a bed for
which limits the amount of people who miss out on a bed
which limits the amount of people who die.

Which in turn eases the strain on the health care system so people who have 'regular issues' like heart attacks can actually get an ambulance when they need one, which again, limits the people who die.

But sure....its all BS.

I get the theory about limiting the body count with more jabs but the ambulance system is broken in Victoria with or without CoVid and the ER's are full to overflowing with ramping at extreme levels despite the Governments denials.
Staff are leaving in droves and we have Private Hospitals now being being recruited and forced to close wards for patients to take up the slack and supply facilities and staff.
The reality is more people are passing due to CoVid with the new strains than the original but no one wants to talk about it
or do anything to fix the system and its the Herd mentality approach and when its the economy vs losing some of the herd the economy wins...

100% the ambulance system is broken.

The last thing they need though is more fuel on the fire....which Covid adds.

I think Shawny has fallen foul of a beat up about Sutton's community action statement that was rolled out in the last week of July. There are a bunch of hack stories going around, written word and video, paraphrasing and selectively summarising what Sutton had to say.

In that statement Sutton said is was critical to get your 3rd or 4th boosters to prevent/reduce COVID causing ICU admissions, and he called for the public to take affirmative action on masks, social distancing and the like to minimise COVID numbers. After all, it is a numbers game. But the get your boosters part is being edited out, and the hacks are again running with the "vaccines don't stop COVID" shizen yet again, despite unequivocal evidence that the vaccines save lives!

I think Shawny has fallen foul of a beat up about Sutton's community action statement that was rolled out in the last week of July. There are a bunch of hack stories going around, written word and video, paraphrasing and selectively summarising what Sutton had to say.

In that statement Sutton said is was critical to get your 3rd or 4th boosters to prevent/reduce COVID causing ICU admissions, and he called for the public to take affirmative action on masks, social distancing and the like to minimise COVID numbers. After all, it is a numbers game. But the get your boosters part is being edited out, and the hacks are again running with the "vaccines don't stop COVID" shizen yet again, despite unequivocal evidence that the vaccines save lives!

Still havent tested positive after 8 months of catching PT to and from the city.  In amongst a bunch of kids, going past the Austin Hospital, continuing past Flinders street station, going to Flagstaff.

Not sure whats going on, but I hope I get it whilst they still make you isolate for 7 days because I forsee a time when they stay isolate only whilst symptomatic.  Not sure how under pressure hospitals are either.

You might be one of the those cats, 3 Leos, who is asymptomatic. Mrs Baggers tested positive once with no symptoms at all.