AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

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Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #60 – August 15, 2022, 08:11:31 pm

If one were to take a risk and given the high stakes for the Blues, Williams over Stocker everyday of the week. One is good ordinary footballer the other an elite when he’s on song, received a huge contract , if he’s fit to play longer than half a game Williams will be selected.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #61 – August 15, 2022, 08:17:33 pm

No way. Williams is an over paid, over hyped injury prone player who needs to dominate in the twos before getting a run. Played about two decent games for us. Put up or pi.. Off.

Stocker 100% for the pies.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #62 – August 15, 2022, 08:49:53 pm

If Zac is fit I would play him, we need more run and better delivery going forward.

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Reply #63 – August 15, 2022, 09:50:00 pm

Zac should play if fit. Has been disappointing first two seasons with us but is a gun player. I think Weits, Young and Gov are enough talls need more ground ball players - Marchy is off the boil with his marking and defending and would replace him with Zac.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #64 – August 15, 2022, 10:16:07 pm

Quote from: madbluboy on August 15, 2022, 08:49:53 pm

If Zac is fit I would play him, we need more run and better delivery going forward.

He's is iffy when fit let alone coming back from a long lay off. No thanks.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #65 – August 16, 2022, 08:10:31 am

Let's just hope if this is happening it's under the old Carlton ways, keeping a lid on player progress and catching the opposition off-guard!

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Reply #66 – August 16, 2022, 08:23:59 am

Quote from: JonDorotich on August 15, 2022, 07:14:16 pm

Can’t believe anybody could be contemplating dropping Stocker to accommodate Williams who hasn’t done a thing since he arrived at Ikon. Don’t think Voss will be that silly and he’ll need to earn the right to rejoin the team through the VFL.

Stocker was excellent against the Dees and provides some much needed hardness to our side.

FWIW, i was probably the first to throw Stockers name up, but i was doing it based off how the MC would do it, rather than my own preference.
Stocker seems to be the last one in, and first one out.
If you are going to push for Williams (which seems to be the rumblings) then someone makes way.....who would the MC drop if it wasn't stocker?

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #67 – August 16, 2022, 08:55:02 am

Don't worry, there will be an injury to create a slot.

I'd be evaluating Motlop and wait he brings, what his role is etc. We might need more pace and flexibility.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #68 – August 16, 2022, 09:23:00 am

Maybe if Stocker had a ridiculous contract
like Williams he wouldn't get dropped so often.Even McGovern and Martin had to do some time in the twos to get some fitness before returning, I just don't see what's so special about Williams he gets an automatic spot in the 22.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #69 – August 16, 2022, 09:30:31 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on August 16, 2022, 09:23:00 am

Maybe if Stocker had a ridiculous contract
like Williams he wouldn't get dropped so often.Even McGovern and Martin had to do some time in the twos to get some fitness before returning, I just don't see what's so special about Williams he gets an automatic spot in the 22.

Williams? Just too big a risk. The heat there will be in next Sunday's game would be a bridge too far for a bloke lacking match fitness.

Re: AFL Rd 23 2022 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood

Reply #70 – August 16, 2022, 10:27:27 am

Still unclear why Cerra missed

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Reply #71 – August 16, 2022, 10:41:02 am

Quote from: Gointocarlton on August 15, 2022, 10:16:07 pm

He's is iffy when fit let alone coming back from a long lay off. No thanks.

I would take the gamble because I don't think we can beat Collingwood.

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Reply #72 – August 16, 2022, 10:57:42 am

Don’t think Scott will give 2 sh1ts about the Coleman and would not want to risk Hawkins especially now that Cameron is at a real risk to miss the first final.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Hawkins is a late out.

Their whole campaign would be in the bin if Hawkins is injured in what is a nothing game for them.

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Reply #73 – August 16, 2022, 11:05:13 am

At least it means Charlie is almost a lock for the Coleman.....he'd only really need to kick one or two leaving Hawkins or Lynch to kick about 9 each.

And for me, Stocker stays in this week. I was at the game against the Pies early in the season and saw the work he did off the ball to Ginnivan. I know Ginnivan isn't playing this week but they have a raft of those small/medium forward types and we need someone who can play a lockdown role....not sure Williams has ever been able to do that? Hopefully if Cerra is back, Doc can move back as well....and either of Stocker or Doc have shown they can have a run through the midfield.

If Cerra is fit, then in for Motlop.

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Reply #74 – August 16, 2022, 11:19:08 am

Quote from: Professer E on August 16, 2022, 10:27:27 am

Still unclear why Cerra missed

Groin tightness when warming up before the game.