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Title: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on June 28, 2016, 03:37:45 pm
This week the Blues play the Meat Pies at the Holden Centre as sort of the Curtain Raiser at 1600 this Saturday. That way we may be able to see the game before the Blues - Pies game.
The Meat Pies have been winners lately, not as impressively as Sandringham, but winning all the same. As such the Blues are going to have play decently.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on June 29, 2016, 12:35:34 pm
Sheehan has done a hamstring and needs an operation. He will miss the rest of the season. It must put his place on the list in doubt.
Gorringe could be back for this game, but it looks like our list won't be improving for a while.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: jeza on June 30, 2016, 05:21:51 pm
Shocking luck for Sheehan.

Is it just me or is Josh Fraser ultra-negative with the little player reviews he does on the carlton website?

Always a little positive for each player followed by a pretty decent backhander.

Might be a good thing, I don't know, but he seems pretty difficult to please.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: RiverRat on June 30, 2016, 06:34:30 pm

Is it just me or is Josh Fraser ultra-negative with the little player reviews he does on the carlton website?


Mostly accurate and realistic IMO.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: DJC on June 30, 2016, 06:56:17 pm
Mostly accurate and realistic IMO.

Seems that way to me.  Fraser is limited to a couple of sentences so he can't go into great detail but he does seem to summarise each player's performance very fairly as well as highlighting positives or areas requiring improvement.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on June 30, 2016, 07:53:16 pm
Collingwood vs Northern Blues
 Saturday 2nd July, 2016
 Holden Centre at 4.00pm

Collingwood

B: 41. T Golds 45. J Frost 55. R Pendlebury
HB: 71. A Rambaldi 43. A Oxley 34. A Toovey
C: 66. D Hinkley 33. R Wills 27. M Goodyear
HF: 47. D Wyatt 9. J White 3. B MacAffer
F: 63. G Borthwick 44. C Gault 62. L Ferguson
R: 15. J Witts 29. T Broomhead 58. B Moloney
Int: 56. J Taylor 67. M Smith 54. J Collopy 65. L Howe 74. J Viola 53. J Hellier 61. N Gray 60. J Kelly
  
23P: 77. C Lane
    

Northern Blues:

B: 38. B Gowers 31. J Foster 4. S Russell
HB: 7. D Buckley 34. J Glass-Mccasker 26. M Dick
C: 65. D Viojo 32. N Graham 76. J Tutt
HF: 51. B Boekhorst 48. K Jaksch 23. H Kerbatieh
F: 19. H McKay 14. L Jones 10. T Totevski
R: 36. C Wood 42. M Whiley 1. T Wilson
Int: 22. D Aujla 12. Z Ballard 50. B Jordan 29. B Casley 80. M Korcheck 37. T Jones 67. C Smith 24. T Roos

23P: 21. C Barrett
 
We looks a little better on paper this week with Boekhorst and McKay named. However, I am not expecting much from McKay, maybe half a game. Having Tutt and Whiley back in helps our midfield. However, Gorringe was not named, so Korchek will be the 2nd ruckman. he didn't have a big game last week. However, he wasn't alone. Most of our forwards got cold as the ball didn't get down to them while Wood had a shocker. he was really towelled up last week. If we are to win, he needs to really lift. I can't see it: he has been playing like he is past it all season.
Smith might miss out: he had only a handful of possessions last week, although all of them were particularly effective. We can't afford a Carlton listed player to get less than 8 possessions.

Collingwood do look strong on paper. Hopefully that is deceptive. However, they have been playing well. Pity about that. Time to change that.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on June 30, 2016, 08:03:47 pm
Box Hill Hawks vs Northern Blues
 Sunday 3rd July, 2016
 Box Hill City Oval at 11.00am

Box Hill Hawks

B: 8. A Bond 17. A Kennedy 22. M Burt
HB: 21. J Fisher 15. T Gordon 58. L Jeffs
C: 2. M Lock 29. S Gibson 16. L Williams
HF: 3. W Murphy . N Evans 33. D Hehir
F: 66. L Langford 38. L Surman 49. J Firns
R: 19. C O'Sullivan 52. B Mcintyre 39. A Woodward
Int: 25. R Monkhorst 27. S Smith 50. L Cavanagh 28. J Sandric 53. T Castledine 18. J Sullivan 44. J Nolan 47. B Kilpatrick 14. M Traynor 51. L Cox 43. S Horner 55. J Kidd
 

Northern Blues:

B: 54. C McCabe 50. B Jordan 22. D Aujla
HB: 6. G Strachan 41. J Cripps 35. K Declase
C: 25. A Brown 37. T Jones 24. T Roos
HF: 58. C Curnow 30. S Bolger 82. D Iermano
F: 28. J Collins 29. B Casley 67. C Smith
R: 70. S Peet 12. Z Ballard 45. D Stevens
Int: 53. H Payne 57. B Lamanna 55. W Krithararis 73. A Aurrichio 64. L Jacques 9. J Corboy 74. B Malual 84. M Vesnaver 5. J Cyster 69. B Hawkes 13. C Adams 66. M Dawson
 
It appears that our Development side plays Box Hill every 2nd week.

I do hope that Aurrichio is fit. He is the real ruckman in this side and it does need one. Nice to see Jayden Collins named.
Very nice to see Charlie Curnow named. Maybe he can get through training this week :) .
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on July 02, 2016, 11:58:47 am
(http://northernbluesfc.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Bertocchi-23-vs.-Collingwood-copy.png)
I like this format.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: DJC on July 02, 2016, 12:04:20 pm
Smith is in the development side?  Not a good sign.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Amers on July 02, 2016, 03:29:52 pm
Im here at the holden centre waiting for the game to start, if my phone battery holds up, I may be able to give updates!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Amers on July 02, 2016, 03:30:51 pm
Thanks for the player numbers Crash, they'll come in handy!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on July 02, 2016, 03:42:25 pm
Smith is in the development side?  Not a good sign.

Agree - his time seems to be running out.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: madbluboy on July 02, 2016, 03:44:30 pm
Smith is in the development side?  Not a good sign.

I copped a bit of a whack here when I said he wouldn't make it after his first game for us. It's not something I do often either, I'm always for giving kids at least 2 years to find their feet but nothing about him was AFL standard that night.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Robblues on July 02, 2016, 04:23:07 pm
Sounds like Harry McKay not playing , was hoping we could have got some game time in to him
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Robblues on July 02, 2016, 04:27:46 pm
Coll 7.1 NB 0.1.1 poor start
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on July 02, 2016, 05:14:48 pm
Mostly accurate and realistic IMO.

x2. Yep, accurate and realistic.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Amers on July 02, 2016, 05:28:25 pm
11.2.68 Pies to 3.4.22 Blues @ half time.
As the score line shows, we've been horrible. Slow, reactionary, putting little to no pressure on the oposition. Jones has taken a couple of nice marks and Boeky kicked a nice goal, but positives are few & far between.
Smith is definitelyplaying.
Nice to see Charlie C, Gallucci, and Cuningham in the crowd supporting the boys.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on July 03, 2016, 11:30:14 am
Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtpYPBsfi5I
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on July 03, 2016, 02:20:32 pm
Coll 7.1 NB 0.1.1 poor start
We started appallingly yesterday. By the time my daughter and I got there it was quarter time and the damage had been done. From that point we were the better team and worked our way back into the game. Skills: well, not do good and it was not always easy to identify players on the other side of the ground in the dark.

AFL Victoria Development League
Box Hill Hawks   5.1  12.2  14.7  16.10 (106)
Northern Blues   2.0  5.1  7.1  11.3 (69)

GOALS:
Box Hill Hawks: Mcintyre 3 Sullivan 3 Langford 2 Murphy 2 Surman  Gordon  Traynor  Williams  Evans  O'Sullivan
Northern Blues: Brown 3 Bolger 2 Cyster 2 Payne  Strachan  Curnow  Stevens

BEST:
Box Hill Hawks: Cox Lock Kennedy Gordon Williams Murphy
Northern Blues: Brown Stevens Cripps Vesnaver Strachan Krithararis

We were good here after half time, but the damage had also been done. Curnow got a goal.

Peter Jackson VFL 2016
Collingwood   7.1  11.2  12.6  15.9 (99)
Northern Blues   0.3  3.4  9.8  13.8 (86)

GOALS:
Collingwood: Ferguson 3 Howe 2 White 2 Borthwick 2 Hellier  Gault  Golds  Witts  Wyatt  Pendlebury
Northern Blues: Jaksch 2 Jones 2 Boekhorst 2 Kerbatieh 2 Buckley  Wilson  Wood  Jones  Barrett

BEST:
Collingwood: White Smith Oxley Moloney Ferguson Gray
Northern Blues: Graham Wood Totevski Whiley Buckley Gowers

There were some good signs, but we just couldn't find the steadiness when it mattered.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on July 03, 2016, 02:53:07 pm
DISPOSALS: Graham 36, Whiley 26, Kerbatieh 22, Gowers 21, T. Jones 21, Wilson 21, Buckley 19

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmVlj4dVYAEf6Cb.png)
Haven't seen the final stats yet, but I'll do my best anyway.

Buckley: unsighted early, but came into the game nicely and showed some dash. With Byrne going down, there is a pot in defence that he could fill. He could have had a couple more goals, but we were pretty ordinary for a while.

Liam Jones: he must have got cold early, we were so hopeless, but he gave a good target after quarter time. Our forward structures didn't help him much, and I was looking for chasing and tackling, but I didn't see as much as I would like. Still, he gave a target and must come into consideration for next week.

Matt Dick: not his best game at all. He usually dominates at this level, but he really struggled to get the ball. I didn't notice him after time - was he injured?

Tutt: didn't play. he was emergency for the seniors. He was missed.

Foster: OK in patches, but was out-marked a few times. Not our worst, but not the sort of game that would see him remain next year. In fact, he was on Jessie White for a while and White was one of Collingwood's best.

Glass-McCasker: Not as impressive as he was last week. Defended well enough against Gault when he had that task.

Cameron Wood: His best game for the year by a long way. He was adequate in the ruck, but he took marks around the ground, got centre clearances and generally gave Collingwood a headache. When he got on top of Witts we got back into the game. He rucked a lot smarter than Witts, which I was very happy about. he formed a great relationship with Puss.

Nick Graham: not many marks, but played the sort of game he was playing last year to get noticed. He was at the bottom of the packs and getting clearances. An excellent game.

Billy Gowers: he and a couple of Magpies obviously didn't get along well, but Gowers managed to get a the ball more and looked pretty good. Very solid in the air and didn't make many mistakes.

Whiley: he really lifted after the 1st quarter and was very solid. Not always sure it was him in the dark, as he and a couple of others had similar hair. :) Showed more thought today than he has in the past. He can be happy with his effort.

Boekhorst: it actually took me quite a while to realize that 51 was Boekhorst. he was pretty good in patches, but his disposal by hand was woeful. He stuffed up 3 scoring opportunities with poor disposal and I was ready to send him back to the Development League. Then he would do something good and I would again think he had a future. Pretty rusty and will be better for the run.

Dillon Viojo - Rainbow: Not as good as last week, but he didn't look 100% from about half way through the 2nd quarter. Skittles needs more consistency.

Clem Smith: a couple of nice cameos, but he struggled to get near the ball. His days are numbered.

Matt Korchek: not bad in the ruck, but got out-bodied a few times by Witts. When he does get the tap, it usually goes to our advantage. Still, a long way to go yet for this American.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Jeffy38 on July 03, 2016, 03:30:27 pm
Would like to see gowers get a go seems a good fit with Byrne out. Him or Buckley. If nick graham can't get a game in our midfield he has a limited future
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 03, 2016, 06:00:25 pm
Would like to see gowers get a go seems a good fit with Byrne out. Him or Buckley. If nick graham can't get a game in our midfield he has a limited future

Gowers has built himself up to a decent size and I reckon we need another big bodied mis as we looked a bit weak and intimidated by Collingwood.....the Crows are very strong in the midfield with some big bodies and I would be promoting Gowers for Byrne and having a good look at him in the seniors.
While Graham had 36 and Buckley was ok its Gowers size and blue collar approach we need IMO....
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: LP on July 03, 2016, 06:03:20 pm
Gowers has built himself up to a decent size and I reckon we need another big bodied mis as we looked a bit weak and intimidated by Collingwood.....the Crows are very strong in the midfield with some big bodies and I would be promoting Gowers for Byrne and having a good look at him in the seniors.
While Graham had 36 and Buckley was ok its Gowers size and blue collar approach we need IMO....

Agreed, 100% on the money!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 03, 2016, 07:29:12 pm
Gowers has built himself up to a decent size and I reckon we need another big bodied mis as we looked a bit weak and intimidated by Collingwood.....the Crows are very strong in the midfield with some big bodies and I would be promoting Gowers for Byrne and having a good look at him in the seniors.
While Graham had 36 and Buckley was ok its Gowers size and blue collar approach we need IMO....
Agree but I bet they will go with Graham, see that he isn't up to AFL level and drop him the following week.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on July 03, 2016, 07:46:36 pm
Gowers has built himself up to a decent size and I reckon we need another big bodied mis as we looked a bit weak and intimidated by Collingwood.....the Crows are very strong in the midfield with some big bodies and I would be promoting Gowers for Byrne and having a good look at him in the seniors.
While Graham had 36 and Buckley was ok its Gowers size and blue collar approach we need IMO....

Yep, EB1, as the Spotted Cat said... 100% on the money.

Loved reading from Captain CRASH that Gowers made some enemies at Rottingwood, I love that about him...as they say, hard as a cat's head and plays close to the line. Brings hardness to the contest which Graham and Buckley haven't the body for. Like Buckley, Gowers is a bloody good kick and likes to run and take on the game.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on July 04, 2016, 08:40:57 am
(https://proxy.bigfooty.com/forum/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuYHHi0C.png&hash=6a7d49dd301431e23e4d06740b2c7b10) Interesting stats.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: NudeNut on July 04, 2016, 03:09:55 pm
Sounds like Harry McKay not playing , was hoping we could have got some game time in to him

Anyone know why he didn't play?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Professer E on July 04, 2016, 06:05:10 pm
Our mids had heaps of ball but we got flogged.... Must have been a truckload of junk possessions.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 04, 2016, 06:39:58 pm
Anyone know why he didn't play?
Didnt he and Curnow play in the development side?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on July 04, 2016, 07:23:23 pm
Our mids had heaps of ball but we got flogged.... Must have been a truckload of junk possessions.

Grahame especially looks like he had a very busy day!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on July 04, 2016, 07:47:30 pm
Anyone know why he didn't play?

Played half in the Development game.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on July 04, 2016, 07:55:01 pm
Where was Tutt?

Was listed as omitted from the 1's, but didn't play 2's.

Injured?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Thryleon on July 04, 2016, 09:01:36 pm
Emergency
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on July 04, 2016, 09:44:14 pm
Emergency

1's played sat night?
2's played sunday did they not?

Surely he can get up for a game the next day??
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: DJC on July 04, 2016, 09:46:34 pm
1's played sat night?
2's played sunday did they not?

Surely he can get up for a game the next day??

Saturday arvo and Saturday night.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 13: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on July 04, 2016, 09:56:19 pm
Saturday arvo and Saturday night.

My mistake, the development league played on sunday.