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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs St Kilda
He accused me of "embracing failure", not once have I even suggested it and if this bozo knew anything about me he wouldn't be so insulting in all his other posts, so instead of defending him let him take some responsibility. That's the problem with this site it's always the same old crew, ignoring the rest of us whilst you have you little conversations, this site is really nothing more than an ongoing conversation between about ten of you. You only ever respond to the majority of posters when you condescendingly comment on our "stupid" posts, or your usual response, just ignore what we have to say. And some of you wonder why this site has lost so many members.....
I've been posting here, and it's former carnation for over ten years, followed the team since I was in grade two, 1970, sat in the stand and watched five premierships, watched them loose two, my moniker says I am still bleeding Blue! So when some anonymous keyboard warrior  starts insulting my opinion, and trust me I truly consider my posts, it leaves such a foul taste in my mouth. I don't want to let bullies win, so whilst part of me wants to feck off, the significantly bigger bit wont let the Laj's of this world win anymore. I founded a charity that fights for men's mental health, I've raised hundred's of thousands of dollars for the men of Ballarat so don't accuse me of accepting failure, I fecking eat it for brekky. Happy for any PM's from anyone in regards to my charity and foundation.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs St Kilda
It is exactly the same reason I left this place before, then it was a key board bully maned Pass It To Carrots, this particular bully is fixated upon some perceived uninformed notion that I actually am enjoying this current debacle.  Mods I find his behaviour insulting and if you are concerned about loosing posters and members then look at the arrogance of this particular buffoon. He will now typically respond and throw some more insults.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs St Kilda
I am getting a little tired of the condescending presumptive attitude that dominates some of the posters here, assuming that I am enjoying this distressing mess, advocating failure, not "understanding" our predicament and how we just keep going back to the well when it gets tough.

Mate we have been the media's punching bag for a decade, because of the inbreed arrogance that people like yourself demonstrate on a daily basis, that's why all the other clubs despise Carlton, we were so successful for so long, and it was based upon a fraud. And now when finally the administration wakes up to the real world, and realise that there are no more quick fixes, and that the previous administrators (I actually blame Collins and his self serving) had no idea, that we are a complete basket case who have not learnt a thing from our sins of the past, and your response is to sack the coach again.

And if another person reminds me of how he teams I mentioned are not comparable "I'll spew", its not about games won, or ladder positions, its about decisions. None of the teams, including the Dogs, were undergoing a reconstruction, they were resets. Unfortunately our team has chosen to go down a much deeper and harder option all I want is it to be given a chance to play out, what have we got to loose it's too late to top up....
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs St Kilda
Keep Bolts, sack all of his dud assistants. Bring in ex coaches to replace them, Eade, Voss, Roos..hell!! Even bring in Hird. Bolts needs better support to make him a better match day coach, he is currently surrounded by crap.

Now finally here is someone who can read my mind!!!! Never said that Bolton is our messiah, but we have been so committed to this reconstruction we simply must see it out until the end of next season, we brought in cheap foot soldiers (Mullet, Shaw, Kerridge, O'Shae etc) who have proven to be allbut useless, but what wasn't and couldn't have been anticipated was the injury list from hell, these blokes were not meant to play more than 5 or 6 games a year, but the spuds have been in every game. Someone broke a mirror, or killed a chinaman, and today was Friday the 13th!!!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs St Kilda
You embrace failure? One win and embarrassment.

You think there's no good coaching options out there. We have to actually get it right for once.
Firstly Laj, unless you are are mind reader you don't know what I think, and if you are you are no good.

Richmond, Geelong, and Collingwood all faced down the doubters and two of them by sticking with the coach and plan won flags, Collingwood this year in my obviously flawed opinion are probably the only team that can challenge Richmond,

What is our history this century? Bring in (or back in the case of Parko) an "old coach", use him up then sack him for an untried one, three times for zero stability and sustainability

So according to your plan lets do it one more time for the likes of, who? Lyon? Roos?

Or adopt those other successful clubs, stick fat (to coin a Sticks phrase) and see what happens. We dont do that and all we are doing is feeding the chooks and endorsing the sad fact that we are a reactionary club that is lead by other's opinions..
Again, two ruckmen is your gripe, one with a hammy and one with shortness of breath... seriously ?

Northern, my "gripe" as you put it was more about that the players we lost in the first quarter were both crucial to the entire structure for both games, Martin is good enough again to be All Australian this year, so we played two ruckmen to curtail his influence, the "fit"one goes down early, robbing us of the option of an extra tall forward so Kreuser has to ruck all day. This week he goes down, with no back up as we brought in an untried young player who is a forward, not a back up ruckman, Some will say its madness at the MC but my take is that we are running out of players. Kreuser goes down early (by the way only back one game since being injured!!! My point!!!), game over.

So lets sack the coach as usual.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 16: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs St Kilda
While we have some real crap at the bottom end there's enough decent players at the top end, a few albeit underdone, to be better than one win and 65 & 64pts defeats to the two bottom sides.

Whatever message Bolts is sending it's either the wrong message or it is simply falling on deaf ears. Enough is enough. Bolts isn't the man.


So we sack him and fall back into the young coach old coach trap? Repeating the sins of the past yet again?? As tough as it is stick with him and stay on the plan, but move on the supporting cast including the complete sports science crew there are too many injuries in game and to critical players, Two weeks in a row lost a ruckman, except this week it was the only one playing, completely destroyed the structure and something we were just not able to recover from. All the talk about landing "a big fish" will be moot when Cripps doesn't sign and requests a trade home......... :( :( :(
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 - What do you expect from the club?
I believe that at times in 2018 there are going to be a lot of frustrated Carlton supporters and I fear that one or more of the idiotic factions of the club will pull the trigger and thwart the rebuild before it is finished. 

The bottom line is that losing Gibbs and Docherty is going to cost us big time.  Those two were huge contributors in wins last year (e.g. Gibbs vs Suns) last year and  in Tennis parlance, we have to defend those points for starters just to square the ledger.  Some of our wins in 2017 were against very highly rated sides and repeating that would be a great effort.

The list is a step closer to where the club wants it to be but aside from Kennedy and Garlett I can't see any of the draftees contributing in  a meaningful way for at least a couple of seasons.  The future-thinking drafting is a clear sign of staying the stated course, but does not address immediate needs.  For example, we have a Grand Canyon-sized chasm forward of centre to fill.  I am concerned that other clubs have been viewed as "destination" clubs and have advanced on us simply by the calibre of players they could attract.

As for game style and general play I expect greatly improved ball movement or questions should be asked.  The JLT series is going to give a better guide in this area.  I assume that Bolton will have learnt from some of the mistakes of this year e.g playing excessively young sides or inappropriate selections.

The silver lining is next year's draft.  Kids like Jack Lukosious and Ivan Rankine are rated as once in a generation type players.

"Prophetic" words if I ever saw them....