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Quote from: DJC on February 09, 2014, 11:44:50 pm

Quote from: ItsOurTime on February 09, 2014, 05:16:05 pm

Quote from: DJC on February 09, 2014, 03:56:14 pm

Natanui averages less marks per game than Kreuzer    Tippett averages one more mark per game than Kreuzer.  If they are exceptional, Kreuzer mustn't be far off the mark.  On the other hand, Cox and McEvoy average more marks per game than Tippett.  Leuenberger and Kreuzer are virtually on a par but Kreuzer takes more contested marks.  That's not bad for a bloke that doesn't make it to contests 

Marking stats are never going to tell us much. Those marks could be in the back pocket, unmanned, they could be one out against a small opponent and we don't know what happens after a mark. NicNat, for example, can get 8 touches and turn a game. And whilst it is just one Mark a game more, that represents an almost 50% higher number.

I know that stats don't tell the whole story but, clearly, the marking prowess of other teams' rucks is exaggerated.

Talking about stats, if Kreuzer averages one more mark per game than Natanui, how does that represent an almost 50% higher number?  I don't follow that at all     Perhaps it's because Kreuzer takes more contested marks?

I'd also like to know when Natanui last turned a game?  There'd be no argument from me if you'd said Dean Cox but the best NicNat does is look like he could turn a game 

Nic Nat averages more contested marks than Kreuzer, as does Cox, as does Tippett.

Last time Nic Nat turned a game North Melbourne games last year. Last time Kreuzer turned a game never.

Quote from: DJC on February 09, 2014, 03:56:14 pm

Natanui averages less marks per game than Kreuzer    Tippett averages one more mark per game than Kreuzer.  If they are exceptional, Kreuzer mustn't be far off the mark.  On the other hand, Cox and McEvoy average more marks per game than Tippett.  Leuenberger and Kreuzer are virtually on a par but Kreuzer takes more contested marks.  That's not bad for a bloke that doesn't make it to contests 

Marking stats are never going to tell us much. Those marks could be in the back pocket, unmanned, they could be one out against a small opponent and we don't know what happens after a mark. NicNat, for example, can get 8 touches and turn a game. And whilst it is just one Mark a game more, that represents an almost 50% higher number.

Quote from: Juddkreuzer on February 09, 2014, 01:35:15 am

Clearly we've been watching different games. A fit Kreuzer (and that's the whole point here) is an exceptional mark and a great ruckman. His follow up work is second to none and his accuracy in front of goal get's a pass mark that's ahead of some of the more noted forwards.

As much as I love to pump up our ruckmen, I have to tag the highlighted comments as pure fantasy.

SpecialK is good in the ruck not great and not exceptional, and he is an ordinary mark because many times like Levi he isn't even making it into the contest. They either read the ball very poorly or are too easily put out of the contest.

Exceptional marks would be Naitanui or Tippett, good marks are Cox, McEvoy or Leuenberger, at the moment SpecialK is clearly well behind those all with question.

The rest of the comments about his 2nd efforts and kicking are reasonably accurate.

Quote from: flyboy77 on February 05, 2014, 04:51:47 pm

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"I reckon Marc Murphy, Simpson, Carrazzo and Jamison, they are captain, vice-captains and deputy vice captains, they are all strong characters, they will lead and will get better, particularly Marc Murphy who is only a young man."

Not in footballing terms he's not.

"'Daisy' is a wonderful kid, I really enjoy his company. He is one of those kids, I have two sons and two daughters, so I am not about to say I love him as a son - but I do love him as a son," Malthouse said.

"He is just a beauty. He brings so much to a football club. I try hard to not be biased and not show it but, at the end of the day, the more you avoid it the more it becomes obvious.

"I treat every player the way I see them. I know very well the chemistry mixes with some people. Some just went to get on and be professional footballers and just move on, it doesn't matter who coaches them. Others are concerned about who coaches them, others like that personal touch.

"I get on very well with Daisy - I am here to admit it and he is going to be a great bonus for our club."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mick-malthouse-admits-his-unabashed-admiration-for-dale-thomas-20140205-320vp.html#ixzz2sQ8hoy6k

Speaking on FIVEaa radio, Malthouse has urged team leaders Marc Murphy, Michael Jamison, Kade Simpson and Andrew Carrazzo to continue their development, urging them to not worry about being "loved" by their teammates.

The eight-man leadership group also includes Bryce Gibbs, Lachie Henderson, Brock McLean and Andrew Walker.

"What we need, I am the first to say it, is we want players to stand up. We have a young, fresh group of leaders led by Marc Murphy," he said.

"I reckon Marc Murphy, Simpson, Carrazzo and Jamison, they are captain, vice-captains and deputy vice captains, they are all strong characters, they will lead and will get better, particularly Marc Murphy who is only a young man."

Malthouse had felt former skipper Chris Judd had been "overburdened" in the role but, with a more confident Murphy moving into his second year in the job, he has noticed a greater contribution from the leadership group.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mick-malthouse-admits-his-unabashed-admiration-for-dale-thomas-20140205-320vp.html#ixzz2sQ9ph4L0