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My guess is that if Goodes was drafted by CFC, he would've lasted 50 games, gone nowhere, and then been delisted or traded. Players are like seeds. Without fertile soil, good climate, care etc. they don't flourish.

My guess is that if Goodes was drafted by CFC, he would've lasted 50 games, gone nowhere, and then been delisted or traded. Players are like seeds. Without fertile soil, good climate, care etc. they don't flourish.

I don't acknowledge Stevens (and he ended up with us anyway), Goodes would have been nice... some ordinary footballers selected before both those guys, and Simon Black.

Actually, especially during the Shane O'Sullivan days, our back end spec. picks produced some Ok types ie. Fisher, Hamill.

Where we've really struggled is our front end picks. Most of those have been uninspiring.

I did an experiment with a colleague comparing our drafts from 2000-2013 with St. Kilda's, expecting ours to be far inferior. In fact, given all of the early round picks they had over the early 2000's period, ours isn't that bad in comparison. They had their share of spuds as well.

We then looked at Geelong vs ours and they had a couple of great drafts which built the core of their premiership side. They also had a ton of excellent FS picks, which is where we have had no luck at all, as SOS has been the most notable one, with a truck load of duds, and of course the one guy who would have produced some solid lads ie Sticks, has 3 girls.

Its a good little experiment to do as its so simple to just say our recruiting has been tripe, but its got to be in context.

Honestly, and this will surprise some people, when the draft started, Melbourne were far and away the most successful team early days. In 1987-88 they got some wonderful players (Febey twins in particular).

I agree with quite a few posters here, in that the more picks were get in the top 20-30 the better our strike rate will be as you improve your capacity to get hits in the deeper end of the draft at the top and it gives you a chance to take more risks.

Actually, especially during the Shane O'Sullivan days, our back end spec. picks produced some Ok types ie. Fisher, Hamill.

Osullivan was a woeful National draft recruiter and could only draft players with a form 4 and cheque book....
2000 was a draft which set us back bigtime IMO.....0/5

Stevens was top class,  but at Carlton he was asked to do it all with very little support, Campo,  the last of Ratten and a busted Kouta.
But even without the standouts there were some very good players taken after Massie, Chad Cornes and Tarrant immediately after in fact, Hawthorn managed to snag Vandenberg at 78 who captained them for three seasons.
It's the difference between success and failure,  we've just never been any good at identifying talent and the last draft doesn't seem to have been an exception.

To clarify, i don't acknowledge Stevens because of his recent disgrace.

Yes... Cornes, Tarrant, Scarlett also (FS, but maybe the other standout) that year. But geez, what a lot of spuds!

Looking at the first 50 players in that draft... reckon Massie would would still be a 1st rounder if you re-ranked it (in the 10-20 range).

O'Sullivan once told someone I know well that we had a gun coming over from SA the following year,  by the name of Scott Freeborn.
True story.

O'Sullivan once told someone I know well that we had a gun coming over from SA the following year,  by the name of Scott Freeborn.
True story.

shane osullivan should be moved on and thanks for his great service to the club...

Is Col Kinnear still on the payroll?