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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Among the latest garbage to spew from the mouth of the former POTUS is his demand that fellow Republican Liz Cheney should face "nine barrels shooting at her".  Given the nature of MAGA supporters, that’s tantamount to incitement to murder.

He also said that he did not believe Ms Cheney had the "guts" to fight in a war.  That’s unbelievable given the lengths he went to in order to avoid the draft and possible service in Vietnam, as well as his continual disrespect for service personnel.  A coward calling into question the courage of someone else is the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

Whilst I agree he shouldn't be making those comments, or dreaming up those types of scenarios (and yes he is being hypocritical) his coward comment IMO is correct. The Cheneys are right up there with McConnell and many others as pure evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40JmEj0_aVM
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Anyway my real story about kids identifying as cats just highlighted that neither side will ever agree. The usual suspects here just dismissed my "story" as made up as it doesn't suit their agenda.

I can't speak or post for anyone else, but please show me where I stated or implied your wife's testimony was fabricated.

This issue, at least IMO, has nothing to do with left versus right. I have not made any value judgements about whether the kids, schools, teachers are right or wrong, or whether I agree or not. I placed the story in the realm of minor incidents and passing fads, because as best as I can tell, that's what the data supports. I also made the judgment that compared to other behaviors in schools, this seems trivial.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
My "story" about my wife's dealings with kids who identifying as cats is happening now. The kids might be harmless but the angry parents not so much.

No need for the quotation marks. You know exactly what I meant by "story', and you know I have already acknowledged your wife's testimony as anecdotal evidence. In however many pages this discussion has been going, you have not once mentioned parents, which is a whole other issue.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)

The "students identifying as Cats" story, and its related components, e.g litter boxes in bathrooms. As best as I can tell, it started in 2021 and as is the way with these stories in an era of social media, becomes a bit of a fad. There's little to suggest it has anything to do with Dan Andrews, or wokeness, or mental health issues. Of course, in a world with 8 billion people, you can find examples of everything. But there's nothing to suggest that it is an epidemic, or out of control, or signifies the decline of Western civilization. Do a survey of teachers and ask them if they're more worried about threats and abuse from students, or a student looking for a sunny spot to nap.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
The more you read around the internet, the more you realize that this story is :

a. a few years old
b. apart from a few isolated incidents, is basically a media beat up.

https://www.google.com/search?q=students+identifying+as+cats&client=firefox-b-e&sca_esv=575e196b9b070b7e&ei=iS4jZ_D3Mpy84-EPlsmV6QU&start=0&sa=N&sstk=Aagrsuj_aCycNQq0xduFy0aLvbLv3i8lSj31zB6bOPg0jZzlNhGhbPVMXE6gUzNWwGEAv3CIWa4OvBGwq0yME3cU6OI-NVktsBNC31dPL-GdDtmMyIAk8ONAwXrwCXyivA4Wj5i0e8KvISp7QLn4SBijVFPJlBa6X9g&ved=2ahUKEwiw4PqmibiJAxUc3jgGHZZkJV04FBDy0wN6BAgIEAQ&biw=1920&bih=1006&dpr=1
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Based on limited facts and detail, and somewhat conflicting anecdotal reports, I'd hazard a guess and say this will be a rather harmless and short lived fad.

If we're talking school behavior, we should be a lot more worried about manosphere influencers like Andrew Tate. There have been reports for a while now about threats to mostly female teachers and his generally toxic influence on young boys. Forget the cats.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
My wife works in a school but what would she know hey?

No doubt anecdotal evidence has its place, but I'd be wary of drawing general conclusions based on that. My daughter attends a government high school, and I quizzed her about it this morning. She certainly knows the subculture, but said it's a very small number of students, and there's no interruptions to classes, secret recruiting drives in hallways, or much else of note. In order to see whether there's a general problem, we need a lot more than a couple of anecdotes.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Some of the rationalisations given for supporting Trump are just bizarre. The desire to just ignore facts, gloss over significant flaws and shortcomings, is truly something.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)

Are you sure you want to confirm that...it kind of goes against what I think you believe ;)

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/19/politics/trump-derangement-syndrome/index.html

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Let’s start with what Trump Derangement Syndrome means.

Urban Dictionary offers up this handy definition: “Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason.”

Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases or stages:

“In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect’s every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world.”
“The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim’s vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of hyperbole.”
“As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality.”


Yep, it’s not really related to the point I was making, and it’s a counterintuitive definition IMO, but I take the correction.