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Title: Reality TV
Post by: LP on March 29, 2023, 12:18:04 pm
It was interesting to hear about how the secrets of Reality TV get exposed, mostly throw it's own hubris and overwhelming desire to profit from short term fame at every possible level.

It seems that one of the recently finished reality TV shows had exposed the winners name many many weeks ago, long before broadcast had even started. This occurred due to bookings appearing across the country for a speaking/publicity tour. You have no choice now but to use genuine ID, things like drivers license or passport are required for air travel and even for some accommodation. Data mining allows the Internet of Trolls to assemble(dox) potential candidates and the resulting vectors neatly identify the pre-determined results, secrets are secrets no more!
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Lods on March 29, 2023, 12:42:58 pm
It was interesting to hear about how the secrets of Reality TV get exposed, mostly throw it's own hubris and overwhelming desire to profit from short term fame at every possible level.

It seems that one of the recently finished reality TV shows had exposed the winners name many many weeks ago, long before broadcast had even started. This occurred due to bookings appearing across the country for a speaking/publicity tour. You have no choice now but to use genuine ID, things like drivers license or passport are required for air travel and even for some accommodation. Data mining allows the Internet of Trolls to assemble(dox) potential candidates and the resulting vectors neatly identify the pre-determined results, secrets are secrets no more!

I watch Married at First Sight for the excellent relationship advice. :D
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: LP on March 29, 2023, 03:19:34 pm
I watch Married at First Sight for the excellent relationship advice. :D
Yes, I can see your point, but I particularly like the tips gleaned from the show on public etiquette and mindfulness!
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 29, 2023, 03:40:32 pm
I watch Married at First Sight for the excellent relationship advice. :D
If MAFS is reality then we as a human race are forked. It is anything but reality and scripted to the hilt IMO. The "experts" (term used loosely) pick the most opposed people (lets call them the fire) they can find to get together and then just pour petrol on it.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Lods on March 29, 2023, 03:44:25 pm
It is difficult to keep things from being divulged long before a reality series ends, especially in those relationship shows.
Too much social media around.
Photos of participants with other people etc.
Not to mention that they're probably heavily edited to produce drama, goodies and baddies.

I struggle to see the interest in some of them myself, but some of my friends and relatives can't get enough of them.
I missed the days of the 8.30 movies...but with streaming services that's a bit redundant now.
Folks seem to want the short sharp reality burst in prime-time, free to air.
Movies and Sport are on tap. with the Netflixes and Foxtels (Kayo)

Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: DJC on March 29, 2023, 03:54:07 pm
A young man, let's call him Bruce, that I used to coach in junior basketball told me that he couldn't play his final season for the club because he was in a TV show.  I think it was called the Resort and it involved a bunch of young folk trying to renovate an abandoned resort on a tropical island.  The show flopped and was cancelled halfway through filming.  Bruce came back to play out the rest of the season.  He brought with him an exotic dancer who was another contestant in the show.  She was very attractive and about 5 years older than Bruce.  He thought that the show was contrived rubbish ... but he enjoyed the experience, both during and after!

The other young men in the team seemed to play a little better when Bruce's dancer was supporting the team  :)
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 29, 2023, 05:06:56 pm
A young man, let's call him Bruce, that I used to coach in junior basketball told me that he couldn't play his final season for the club because he was in a TV show.  I think it was called the Resort and it involved a bunch of young folk trying to renovate an abandoned resort on a tropical island.  The show flopped and was cancelled halfway through filming.  Bruce came back to play out the rest of the season.  He brought with him an exotic dancer who was another contestant in the show.  She was very attractive and about 5 years older than Bruce.  He thought that the show was contrived rubbish ... but he enjoyed the experience, both during and after!

The other young men in the team seemed to play a little better when Bruce's dancer was supporting the team  :)
Every cloud has a silver lining I guess
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 29, 2023, 05:20:01 pm
If MAFS is reality then we as a human race are forked. It is anything but reality and scripted to the hilt IMO. The "experts" (term used loosely) pick the most opposed people (lets call them the fire) they can find to get together and then just pour petrol on it.
I was told a few things about the show via a TV contact ....The experts dont pick anything or anyone...the Producers do, the couples are matched to produce more drama than marriages and as you say is heavily scripted. Every series has a villain and he or she has to see the series out so his/her partner is told they have to keep writing stay to achieve that goal regardless if they want to leave the show or not.
The experts are miked up and told what to ask, hence one of the female experts who began with the show left because she wouldnt be used in a contrived role. Contestants get about $150 a day to go on the show and have to rely on their social media accounts gaining numbers due to exposure on the show to make money for them as they tend to pick a lot of influencers as contestants who want to get moresponsorships/marketing deals from companies.
A couple of the recent contestants are also professional reality stars who have appeared in other countries versions of similar reality type shows. The Professional model who appeared on MAFS this season is a seasoned performer who dates rocks stars etc and got a few noses out of joint with the other women given her glamourous appeal has led to her taking most of the good post show marketing/company gigs and she is set to become very successful after the show.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: LP on March 29, 2023, 05:22:42 pm
I was told a few things about the show via a TV contact ....The experts dont pick anything or anyone...the Producers do, the couples are matched to produce more drama than marriages and as you say is heavily scripted. Every series has a villain and he or she has to see the series out so his/her partner is told they have to keep writing stay to achieve that goal regardless if they want to leave the show or not.
Sounds like The Block!
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 29, 2023, 05:35:48 pm
Sounds like The Block!

Entertainment always wins over Reality in the TV world because it pays more......
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: kruddler on March 29, 2023, 06:38:44 pm
Entertainment always wins over Reality in the TV world because it pays more......
Reality costs less, which is why there is an abundance of trash reality tv
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 29, 2023, 09:46:49 pm
I was told a few things about the show via a TV contact ....The experts dont pick anything or anyone...the Producers do, the couples are matched to produce more drama than marriages and as you say is heavily scripted. Every series has a villain and he or she has to see the series out so his/her partner is told they have to keep writing stay to achieve that goal regardless if they want to leave the show or not.
The experts are miked up and told what to ask, hence one of the female experts who began with the show left because she wouldnt be used in a contrived role. Contestants get about $150 a day to go on the show and have to rely on their social media accounts gaining numbers due to exposure on the show to make money for them as they tend to pick a lot of influencers as contestants who want to get moresponsorships/marketing deals from companies.
A couple of the recent contestants are also professional reality stars who have appeared in other countries versions of similar reality type shows. The Professional model who appeared on MAFS this season is a seasoned performer who dates rocks stars etc and got a few noses out of joint with the other women given her glamourous appeal has led to her taking most of the good post show marketing/company gigs and she is set to become very successful after the show.
The model you are referring was on UK Big Brother and was associated with some other scumbag that was in the news recently. The are all professional DHs
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Thryleon on March 29, 2023, 09:55:04 pm
Sigh.  Had a rough spot in our marriage a few years back.  Went to a marriage counsellor for a bit, and found it a good test of whether or not she was any good when she referenced something happening on MAFS. 

Needless to say, i disregarded her as being any good from that moment onwards.

Imagine being serious about being a relationship advisor and using a social experiment as an example of anything worthwhile.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 29, 2023, 11:20:59 pm
The model you are referring was on UK Big Brother and was associated with some other scumbag that was in the news recently. The are all professional DHs
Yep he was a crim of some sort, she was also hanging out with Justin Bieber for a while too but the point is she is not a genuine marriage prospect/contestant and was on for her ability to create a storyline and up her social media profile which I believe is large and even more prosperous now. One of the males on the show has also featured on English reality TV and was also a non genuine choice but there for the storyline value only.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Baggers on March 30, 2023, 08:25:29 am
I confess to having never watched any 'reality' TV show, I have too much respect for the mental health of my computer monitor and/or TV screen.  :D
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: LP on March 30, 2023, 08:36:26 am
I confess to having never watched any 'reality' TV show, I have too much respect for the mental health of my computer monitor and/or TV screen.  :D
I get dragged into it with the trouble and strife, I sit there hoping like hell that nasal hair I'm tugging on will be attached to my brain so I can end it all quickly!

The good thing at the moment is that at least the girl has been won over by the dog shows, the only problem is those shows spend too much time talking to the people and not nearly enough time talking to the dogs!
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: DJC on March 30, 2023, 09:28:21 am
I confess to having never watched any 'reality' TV show, I have too much respect for the mental health of my computer monitor and/or TV screen.  :D

My exposure is limited to the promotional clips that the networks inflict on innocent viewers.  Although I did watch one episode of the Resort with my basketballer “Bruce”.

I do watch Grand Designs.  Is that reality TV?
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: rocky on March 30, 2023, 09:34:19 am
The reason we have 2 TV's is because of reality shows. Our marriage was seriously on the rocks when the wife was subjecting me to "Big Brother" on multiple occasions many years ago. Was even switching over when I was paying a visit to the toilet!!
Fortunately we got the second set and all the anguish dissipated and we are a happy couple again
 ;D
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Baggers on March 30, 2023, 09:47:40 am
My exposure is limited to the promotional clips that the networks inflict on innocent viewers.  Although I did watch one episode of the Resort with my basketballer “Bruce”.

I do watch Grand Designs.  Is that reality TV?

Ah, now there is quality stuff... Escape To The Country and all the other home reno and/or purchase advise shows - good value. I've gleaned many useful tips from those programs.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Lods on March 30, 2023, 10:09:50 am
My wife likes the Block and MAFS.
I organise my stamp collection while they're on ;D .
So I'm half watching.
She gives me a dirty look when I make comments at some of the less intelligent behaviour (frequently).
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: kruddler on March 30, 2023, 04:36:30 pm
I do watch Grand Designs.  Is that reality TV?

Less exploitation, but still not exactly reality.

My former boss (builder) was on it many years ago and was asked if he would do it again. We did some fancy, pretty cool stuff and he said hell no.

Almost everything you see is staged for the camera and troubles are 'trumped up and exaggerated'.

Still good viewing for the houses alone, just don't get sucked into the 'story' so much.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 30, 2023, 05:02:57 pm
Less exploitation, but still not exactly reality.

My former boss (builder) was on it many years ago and was asked if he would do it again. We did some fancy, pretty cool stuff and he said hell no.

Almost everything you see is staged for the camera and troubles are 'trumped up and exaggerated'.

Still good viewing for the houses alone, just don't get sucked into the 'story' so much.
I believe the Block houses are tricked up to look good but the new owners discover plenty of short cuts and cover ups.
Heard a couple of the ex Builders say its impossible to build the homes properly given the time factor and access needed....
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: Gointocarlton on March 30, 2023, 05:27:37 pm
I believe the Block houses are tricked up to look good but the new owners discover plenty of short cuts and cover ups.
Heard a couple of the ex Builders say its impossible to build the homes properly given the time factor and access needed....
I know one the builders who's worked on the Block for a few seasons.
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 30, 2023, 05:29:25 pm
I know one the builders who's worked on the Block for a few seasons.
One of the well known landscapers on the Block was my sons basketball coach for a couple of seasons...
Title: Re: Reality TV
Post by: kruddler on March 31, 2023, 03:04:28 pm
I believe the Block houses are tricked up to look good but the new owners discover plenty of short cuts and cover ups.
Heard a couple of the ex Builders say its impossible to build the homes properly given the time factor and access needed....
Once the block wraps up they get the real trades to go through and fix it up.
Some things are getting fixed up as the show moves on into other rooms.

The way they do the wet rooms is criminal. I haven't watched for quite a few years now, but if they still do what they used to, its probably not even up to standard regs and certainly done sub-par quality wise.
Gutting a bathroom, and putting it back together again in a week is not possible. Wait time required on screeding, waterproofing, plastering, tiling, painting etc etc takes longer than a week.
There are other examples of this, but thats the most obvious one.