I don't think MM will want anyone taking the field who is not 100% - if there's one thing he isn't it would be sentimental, even towards Juddy!
Not too sure about that Cookie; Malthouse has a history of playing injured players in finals; Didak in 2010, Beams, Jolly and Reid in 2011. Hopefully, he's learned his lesson and our 22 will fit and ready to go.
re: the Thailand incident....its all wrong but when you have a country that runs on the sex trade and life is so cheap its hardly surprising. Seems you can buy your way out of anything there..been to Thailand but I wont be going back...
That's probably the key EB; life is cheap and $93K is an awful lot of money for someone with next to nothing and in a country that is largely a subsistence economy.
Different culture, different values, and different ways of doing things.
I'm sure they think a lot of our practices are weird ( FFS I think our political system is weird ).
The challenge is for both parties to recognise the differences, accept them and not be judgmental of each other. It should then be possible to deal appropriately with each other, but not necessarily on equal terms.
And if he came here on holiday and drove over your lover, child or mother?
You have to go by the values and laws of the country you're in. Break our laws and you're subject to our justice system. Break their laws in their country and you're subject to their justice system. That doesn't mean you have to agree with the death penalty for drug smuggling, just don't smuggle drugs.
I don't normally have a lot of time for Bob Katter and I can't stand animal cruelty. However, I recently heard Katter talking about the reaction to the killing of the Australian steer in Indonesia (that led to the suspension of live cattle exports) and he asked what right do we have to impose our values on Indonesian butchering practices? I think that is a fair question, after all, in the immortal words of the Backsliders "the facts are not only in English".
Different culture, different values, and different ways of doing things.
I'm sure they think a lot of our practices are weird ( FFS I think our political system is weird ).
The challenge is for both parties to recognise the differences, accept them and not be judgmental of each other. It should then be possible to deal appropriately with each other, but not necessarily on equal terms.
I am putting the acid on defence Coach Gavin Brown:
There were 2 snap shot forward pocket goals by the Port Forwards but no Carlton defender blocked the Half Forward / forward pocket space to prevent them running off the mark at right angles....
BASIC ERROR AND LAZY FOOTBALL.......
The Trengrove to Westhoff goal was a shocker....the bloke on the mark had his back to the play and was casually marking the turf when the Hoff strolled into kick the goal....the player on the mark and the player minding Westhoff should be doing a lot of pushups and running this week...
Walker's effort looked worse than it was; even if he had his eyes on the ball, he could never have got near enough to Westhoff to affect the kick. Westhoff's direct opponent probably should be in the gun.
Tuohy gets away with that play on an incredibly regular basis. Forwards must shut down defensively when the opposition is shooting for goal.
Kreuzer had 2 kicks and one handball. Nowhere near good enough for four quarters.
True PI2C, but Kreuzer did lay eight tackles and slotted a nice goal. He was also unlucky to miss out on a free for interference in a marking contest just outside the goalsquare.
I think Kreuzer is a player who needs to play himself into form. Hopefully, he'll be better for the run.
Yes, Murph took a big step forward in the leadership stakes tonight.
No doubt...both he and Gibbs were challenged by the coach and delivered. Murphy looked better down forward and his finishing was important. Credit also to Yarran who played very well and his work was very classy at times....
Credit must go to Malthouse who really put the onus on the leaders and even Duigan I thought was a valuable player...
Big question is can this same group of players who won the game for us tonight led by Murphy deliver again next week....
Come on EB, I don't expect sycophantic comments from you.
Hopefully Malthouse now realises that playing Yarran off halfback is critical to our success, as is having Duigan put his big frame into the contest.
If Malthouse is as good a coach as some would have us believe, he will throw his pre-conceived ideas about structures and favourites out the window and build on what worked in previous seasons.
We're still a way off a genuine finals contender but there is huge potential if we can retain Betts, play Yarran and Walker in their best positions, pick up a genuine KPP and get at least one of our rucks to win the ball around the ground. Encouraging risk taking football as Hawthorn plays wouldn't go astray but that may be a 'bridge too far' or our rather conservative coach.
Finally, I'm leading my former workplace's footy tipping by 3 coming in to this round . . . and I tipped Port Adelaide It could cost me dollars but I don't mind
DJ...not flattering anyone to buy any favours or changing my opinions over one game just giving credit where its due to the individuals who won the game.... a win is a win and someone must have done something good to achieve the result.
As I said the challenge is there for the players I mentioned to do it again....am I sold on Murphy as captain ..No...Gibbs as a A grade matchwinner...No... Duigan to keep his place on the list..No and while I will give Malthouse another 12 months there is nothing to suggest he has improved this team as yet or is just another Pagan collecting his super.
The three amigo's forward line wont win us a flag, we need decent KP forwards....prefer Yarran on the wing...
If your assessment is correct EB, why has it taken Malthouse an entire season to "challenge" Murphy, Gibbs, Duigan and other leaders?
I don't believe Malthouse did anything different, other than perhaps swallowing a little pride and accepting that the previous coach had worked out the best positions for a few players. My take is that some of the players - particularly Murphy, Gibbs, Yarran, Betts, Duigan, Garlett and Walker - took it upon themselves to show that it hasn't been a wasted season.
I agree with you that the three amigos shouldn't all be on the forward line; Yarran should be running off half back and Betts and Garlett have to provide a greater midfield contribution. A KPP is a must have for next season and I'd love to see a Stevie J type forward/midfielder in navy blue. I'm not convinced that Menzel has a place in our best 22 and I don't think that Kreuzer and Warnock can form an effective ruck partnership.
Yes, Murph took a big step forward in the leadership stakes tonight.
No doubt...both he and Gibbs were challenged by the coach and delivered. Murphy looked better down forward and his finishing was important. Credit also to Yarran who played very well and his work was very classy at times....
Credit must go to Malthouse who really put the onus on the leaders and even Duigan I thought was a valuable player...
Big question is can this same group of players who won the game for us tonight led by Murphy deliver again next week....
Come on EB, I don't expect sycophantic comments from you.
Hopefully Malthouse now realises that playing Yarran off halfback is critical to our success, as is having Duigan put his big frame into the contest.
If Malthouse is as good a coach as some would have us believe, he will throw his pre-conceived ideas about structures and favourites out the window and build on what worked in previous seasons.
We're still a way off a genuine finals contender but there is huge potential if we can retain Betts, play Yarran and Walker in their best positions, pick up a genuine KPP and get at least one of our rucks to win the ball around the ground. Encouraging risk taking football as Hawthorn plays wouldn't go astray but that may be a 'bridge too far' or our rather conservative coach.
Finally, I'm leading my former workplace's footy tipping by 3 coming in to this round . . . and I tipped Port Adelaide It could cost me dollars but I don't mind
the former vic labor govt blamed the kennett government for 11 years...
With good reason LR . . . most of everything that is wrong with Victoria, including Carlton's failure to challenge for another flag, is down to Kennett's mismanagement.
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It could cost me dollars but I don't mind
For the first half of the season a significant number of posters wanted him banished to the NBs.
