Poll
Question:
Who were your top 3, WORST on ground?
Option 1: 1 - Walker
votes: 7
Option 2: 2 - Menzel
votes: 0
Option 3: 3 - Murphy
votes: 5
Option 4: 4 - Gibbs
votes: 4
Option 5: 6 - Simpson
votes: 0
Option 6: 7 - Buckley
votes: 0
Option 7: 11 - Warnock
votes: 14
Option 8: 12 - Robinson
votes: 6
Option 9: 13 - Yarran
votes: 1
Option 10: 17 - Rowe
votes: 5
Option 11: 23 - Henderson
votes: 2
Option 12: 28 - Bell (starting sub)
votes: 0
Option 13: 30 - Waite
votes: 5
Option 14: 33 - Everitt
votes: 0
Option 15: 35 - Curnow
votes: 0
Option 16: 38 - Garlett
votes: 19
Option 17: 39 - Thomas
votes: 1
Option 18: 40 - Jamison
votes: 0
Option 19: 42 - Tuohy
votes: 12
Option 20: 43 - White (subbed out)
votes: 20
Option 21: 44 - Carrazzo
votes: 4
Option 22: 46 - Ellard
votes: 0
This one should be a bit easier this week....or is that a bit harder? Plenty to choose from in any event.
Malthouse ;D
Walker 2 games for two WOGs for me. Garlett has spiraled to a never seen before low and White is just list clogging.
Malthouse, Rogers, Kernahan, Mackay....
We have plenty of threads on malthouse...and the recruiters etc.
How about we save this one for the players...they need to be named and shamed.
If they had any kind of internal drive and pride in ones own performance, they would wanna show it soon. Can't pass the buck all the time.
They were putrid and should be seriously questioning whether or not they should continue as AFL players. Can't bothered to expend any more effort on them, the 22 of 'em can GAGF'd!
Warnock , Walker, Murphy, Carlton FC.
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Warnock, Walker and White
Warnock, White and Walker in that order. Rowe wasn't far off at one stage either.
Today's worst performers were:
Leadership.
Initiative.
Spirit.
Cohesion.
It's not fair to only pick 3 after tonights debacle, all 22 were not good enough.
I would go Warnock, Walker and Waite.
Waite: Sums up CarltonFC pretty well at the moment. He turned 31 this year and I am still waiting for him to reach his full potential. The greatest never was.
That's two howlers for Walker out of two this year.
This guy is a sook and has no leadership ability what so ever.
Im potting Bryce Gibbs.
Ran around without an opponent all night, and did feck all to influence the team.
You want Daisy money put in Daisy effort. The bloke ran himself into the ground, and attacked each contest like life depended on it.
Im potting Bryce Gibbs.
Ran around without an opponent all night, and did feck all to influence the team.
You want Daisy money put in Daisy effort. The bloke ran himself into the ground, and attacked each contest like life depended on it.
Agree on Gibbs although he wasnt our worst....Daisy is playing like a man who thinks he made a mistake leaving Collingwood.
He is a class player but having to do some of the monkey work in the packs isnt his go and I hope his body holds up.
Im potting Bryce Gibbs.
Ran around without an opponent all night, and did feck all to influence the team.
You want Daisy money put in Daisy effort. The bloke ran himself into the ground, and attacked each contest like life depended on it.
You're kidding aren't you? Gibbs was worth closer to 700k than Daisy was last night. ATM we have a bloke on 700k that looks like he still has the skill but in terms of run is another Broke McLean. very concerning.
Im potting Bryce Gibbs.
Ran around without an opponent all night, and did feck all to influence the team.
You want Daisy money put in Daisy effort. The bloke ran himself into the ground, and attacked each contest like life depended on it.
You're kidding aren't you? Gibbs was worth closer to 700k than Daisy was last night. ATM we have a bloke on 700k that looks like he still has the skill but in terms of run is another Broke McLean. very concerning.
You obviously were not watching the chasing they were both doing.
I was in row P on the ground level of the Southern stand last night, and watching him look around for an opponent for 3 quarters is what I saw. Not to mention I saw players run away from him and him fail to even pretend to go with them.
Daisy at least chased, harrassed and worked for his cash last night. I dont think Gibbs did.
Fair enough I wasn't at the ground so I can't say either way. Gibbs was at least in the game trying to make something happen.
Im potting Bryce Gibbs.
Ran around without an opponent all night, and did feck all to influence the team.
You want Daisy money put in Daisy effort. The bloke ran himself into the ground, and attacked each contest like life depended on it.
Please tell me what player was having an influence, because I saw 22 blokes running around with no purpose or influence.
I really can't name the 3 worst :-[
Im potting Bryce Gibbs.
Ran around without an opponent all night, and did feck all to influence the team.
You want Daisy money put in Daisy effort. The bloke ran himself into the ground, and attacked each contest like life depended on it.
Agree on Gibbs although he wasnt our worst....Daisy is playing like a man who thinks he made a mistake leaving Collingwood.
He is a class player but having to do some of the monkey work in the packs isnt his go and I hope his body holds up.
Funny but I thought the same thing and commented as such during the game. If I was Daisy I'd be thinking 'of all the places I could have gone, how the hell did I end up with this rabble?'
Im potting Bryce Gibbs.
Ran around without an opponent all night, and did feck all to influence the team.
You want Daisy money put in Daisy effort. The bloke ran himself into the ground, and attacked each contest like life depended on it.
Please tell me what player was having an influence, because I saw 22 blokes running around with no purpose or influence.
I really can't name the 3 worst :-[
Henderson and Carrazzo. Simpson wasnt bad either but turned it over a lot, and Menzel showed him the way. Daisy at least has had a lengthy spell out of the game, and we paid him overs to get here. Whats Gibbs excuse for not chasing an opponent running off him?
Im potting Bryce Gibbs.
Ran around without an opponent all night, and did feck all to influence the team.
You want Daisy money put in Daisy effort. The bloke ran himself into the ground, and attacked each contest like life depended on it.
Please tell me what player was having an influence, because I saw 22 blokes running around with no purpose or influence.
I really can't name the 3 worst :-[
Henderson and Carrazzo. Simpson wasnt bad either but turned it over a lot, and Menzel showed him the way. Daisy at least has had a lengthy spell out of the game, and we paid him overs to get here. Whats Gibbs excuse for not chasing an opponent running off him?
I wasn't making excuses for Gibbs, I just couldn't pick out anyone in particular. Even those you mentioned were horrible, Carrazzo yes, out for a while but every handball went directly to an opponenet. I'm really struggling to find positives. Maybe Menzel & Buckley but neither of those you would expect to have a influence.
garlett, 4 posessions one tackle, Simon White, one posession in 2.5 quarters, was second to his man all night.
Gibbs, cheap posessions no influence and a bomber ran away from him in the last quarter.
Was there last night and if effort equates to $ then Daisy is worth twice Gibbs
Thats exactly the point I was making re Gibbs. It was an effortless nothing performance. He got ran off more than once too. Not even a token chase down. Attacked the ball hard maybe once or twice, but nothing special.
RE: Simon White, after half time, he walked onto the field, and went down to the wrong end of the field at the start of the quarter and realised his mistake, and then had to sprint from forwardline to backline while everyone down back was trying to figure out who was to take the loose man.
Thats what stood out last night. Just how naieve our team is. They have no idea. Not a clue. I thought the Bombers looked decidedly smarter than we did last night except for number 23 playing in defense for them. He was pretty crap.
Sounds like a team that's lacking direction Thry.
Thats the thing Carrots, this is the sort of thing that shouldnt be taught at senior level.
In soccer, talking on the park is drummed into us at age 14. Then there are the other basics, like passing it onto your teamates "good side" or, putting it in a position where they can best use it, rather than just the hit and hope option.
Then there is the diving into a tackle argument. Corall your opponent and put him on his non preffered rather than just letting them waltz around as they please.
If you cant tackle, close the space they have to work in, and push them to a certain direction (non preffered side).
Then there is other stuff. How to use your body to advantage in a marking contest, reading the flight of the ball, how about kicking and handballing on the non preffered side? Last night Walker failed to connect with two passes off each side of his foot which resulted in a scrubber kick.
Its deplorable. These guys have been in the system for a long time now, and should at least have it down pat. Its a mockery when Zach Tuohy seems to use the ball better than half of our side, and the guy didnt even play up growing footy. Working together to setup a kickout defense, nope. Get out option in the forward pocket with the nearest bloke pointing at the next bloke to pick him up, even when he has no opponent.
Fair enough I wasn't at the ground so I can't say either way. Gibbs was at least in the game trying to make something happen.
At the ground I thought Gibbs was clearly our best player.. I haven't had the stomach to sit through the replay yet...
Fair enough I wasn't at the ground so I can't say either way. Gibbs was at least in the game trying to make something happen.
At the ground I thought Gibbs was clearly our best player.. I haven't had the stomach to sit through the replay yet...
It is often the case that what Gibbs does off the ball doesn't get shown on TV, on TV his disposals look uncontested and soft. At the game you usually see him putting an opponent out of the contest early. Often on TV when you see him beaten in a one out contest, which isn't very often, it is because he has left his man to pick up a player someone else has dropped off.
Fair enough I wasn't at the ground so I can't say either way. Gibbs was at least in the game trying to make something happen.
At the ground I thought Gibbs was clearly our best player.. I haven't had the stomach to sit through the replay yet...
You're going to sit through the game again!!?? Wow you're game. I'm just waiting for a win this season so I can watch a replay. Have promptly deleted all three games straight after the final siren so far.
Fair enough I wasn't at the ground so I can't say either way. Gibbs was at least in the game trying to make something happen.
At the ground I thought Gibbs was clearly our best player.. I haven't had the stomach to sit through the replay yet...
Interesting, I thought the opposite.
We were not far away from each other either which is interesting.
I watched it on tv and didn't think much of Gibbs' game.
I certainly noticed Daisy's effort though.
The thing with Daisy is, he works his butt off when he hasn't got the ball and if you are not looking at/for him, you don't notice.
Always shephards, tackles, blocks, chases...none of that gets highlighted, but you can bet that he puts in more effort in those area than Gibbs.
Daisy was responsible for setting up a goal too, with a clearance from a stoppage and a long kick (to advantage) inside 50. Can't remember who took the mark, maybe Garlett?
I watched it on tv and didn't think much of Gibbs' game.
I certainly noticed Daisy's effort though.
The thing with Daisy is, he works his butt off when he hasn't got the ball and if you are not looking at/for him, you don't notice.
Always shephards, tackles, blocks, chases...none of that gets highlighted, but you can bet that he puts in more effort in those area than Gibbs.
Daisy was responsible for setting up a goal too, with a clearance from a stoppage and a long kick (to advantage) inside 50. Can't remember who took the mark, maybe Garlett?
Ditto. Read it the same way. Though Daisy did look quite dejected at times and who'd blame him... those looks weren't during play but at the breaks and at the end.
I just wish we'd imagine that Gibbs was pick 23 and drop the midfield expectation. He's done his best work as a run-with and perhaps should stick to that. It only teases and disappoints to expect him to be a dominant inside mid.
Fair enough I wasn't at the ground so I can't say either way. Gibbs was at least in the game trying to make something happen.
At the ground I thought Gibbs was clearly our best player.. I haven't had the stomach to sit through the replay yet...
You're going to sit through the game again!!?? Wow you're game. I'm just waiting for a win this season so I can watch a replay. Have promptly deleted all three games straight after the final siren so far.
I always watch the replay.... Eventually.. :D
Still havent watch the essendon one yet though.. Although i did fast froward to that free kick Murphy didnt get for holding the ball on Hocking. That was an absolute disgrace..
He could have handballed it 4 times over but instead chose to kick after taking about 5 steps and it missed is boot.. Dropping the ball all day.. Yet the umpire said he had no prior and made an attempt..
No prior? He got tackled and tried to break through the tackle instead of hanballing it.. Then at the end chose to kick instead and missed.. Even the Essendon supporterss were laughing..
Fair enough I wasn't at the ground so I can't say either way. Gibbs was at least in the game trying to make something happen.
At the ground I thought Gibbs was clearly our best player.. I haven't had the stomach to sit through the replay yet...
Interesting, I thought the opposite.
We were not far away from each other either which is interesting.
Yes we were..
But I thought he tried hard and put in all game..