Next week we play the late match on Sunday afternoon, starting at 1640 in Sydney. Not going to be on TV again.
Not really happy about that, but ... :(
We have a chance of having Liam Jones back, which will help our defence. Mind you Levi Casboult had a very good game against Collingwood.
GWS are depending on Dawson Simpson at the moment for ruckman: he is beatable, which could make a huge difference for us.
If we can come back after having our hearts broken again, that would be a phenomenal effort. And the Umpiring simply cannot be as one-sided again. I really hope we officially complain. But that is another story.
You want to fix the umpiring from this weeks game?
You expect that will happen against the AFLs pride and joy.....and on their turf?
Dreaming.
Could be interesting team selection this week.
Jones would probably come straight in. Casboult out? Too top heavy with him in??
Plowman potentially injured, who takes his spot? Are Newman and/or Simpson ready yet?
You want to fix the umpiring from this weeks game?
You expect that will happen against the AFLs pride and joy.....and on their turf?
Dreaming.
Could be interesting team selection this week.
Jones would probably come straight in. Casboult out? Too top heavy with him in??
Plowman potentially injured, who takes his spot? Are Newman and/or Simpson ready yet?
BB said in his presser that they are close, but he is not convinced they will be ready.
By the sounds of how Levi played today it would be a shame to see him dropped to bring in Jones. I think Jones is better in defence but it would deflate Levi after a decent game in a new role. Team balance and match ups are most important. I wonder what BB has in mind for team selection. It would be great to get Doc in but he should not have to worry about games on the field this season.
I think Newman is a chance, Simpson needs at least another week. No idea about Jones
We bring what we brought yesterday for 110 mins for 120 mins, we are every chance irrespective of the ins/out.
We bring what we brought yesterday for 110 mins for 120 mins, we are every chance irrespective of the ins/out.
I give us a chance vs GWS for sure but playing them interstate probably is a tougher ask IMO than the Pies, I'd be more inclined to give those injured players another week and look to have them cherry
ripe for very winnable games in Stkilda and Essendon. Lose both those games and I think the crape will hit the fan big time..
I give us a chance vs GWS for sure but playing them interstate probably is a tougher ask IMO than the Pies, I'd be more inclined to give those injured players another week and look to have them cherry
ripe for very winnable games in Stkilda and Essendon. Lose both those games and I think the crape will hit the fan big time..
Get what you mean but it sort of sends the wrong message EB (whether it be internally or externally). Pick the best side every week and plan to beat everyone, if they are ready, they are up for selection. Anyone, anywhere, anytime, we want to beat GWS, StK, CheatsFC and any one else we play.
Get what you mean but it sort of sends the wrong message EB (whether it be internally or externally). Pick the best side every week and plan to beat everyone, if they are ready, they are up for selection. Anyone, anywhere, anytime, we want to beat GWS, StK, CheatsFC and any one else we play.
Yep. Agree, totally.
I suspect if Newman is even close to right he will have to come in and replace Plowman (injured)
Get what you mean but it sort of sends the wrong message EB (whether it be internally or externally). Pick the best side every week and plan to beat everyone, if they are ready, they are up for selection. Anyone, anywhere, anytime, we want to beat GWS, StK, CheatsFC and any one else we play.
GTC..I want to win every week too but if your good players are 50/50 only injury wise I think you have to look at the draw and be practical...just my theory.
I suspect if Newman is even close to right he will have to come in and replace Plowman (injured)
I think Plowman even if not injured might be the unlucky one to go for Jones and/or Newman if either is ready. If both come in tough call - maybe Stocker to take a step back into the 2s to work on what he has learn't in the 1s? Doesn't deserve to be dropped but someone would have to make way and it's hard to see who else goes.
On Levi in defence I am not sure there is a matchup really for him at the Giants - their tall forwards would be too quick for him IMO.
Watching them against the Hawks...."There's nothing there that we cant handle" :D ;)
Watching them against the Hawks...."There's nothing there that we cant handle" :D ;)
Hopefully Bolton is paying close attention. Double team Cameron (they go to him much too much), force them to the flanks by zoning in the corridor, and hope Mummy and Whitfield are out. I've never seen them look so unskilled.
Good to see we get to do round 8 again after going so close yesterday...lol.
Last time we played them they smacked us in the last qtr 7 goals to 1 with just 16 men at times.
Thinking we've improved on that.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/giants-loss-to-hawks-the-worst-in-their-history-bartel-20190513-p51mse.html
This could get ugly, real ugly. If Mumthug doesn't play we might have a slim chance, emphasis on slim.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-14/disappointed-giants-hungry-to-atone-after-hawks-dismantling
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-14/disappointed-giants-hungry-to-atone-after-hawks-dismantling
Great...Mummy and Whitfield probably back and GWS probably going to be tackle crazy given they didnt lay too many vs the Hawks.
DeBoer on Cripps to be critical, I might include Kennedy this week vs his old mob and give him Kelly or Coniglio to follow around.
Great...Mummy and Whitfield probably back and GWS probably going to be tackle crazy given they didnt lay too many vs the Hawks.
DeBoer on Cripps to be critical, I might include Kennedy this week vs his old mob and give him Kelly or Coniglio to follow around.
Yes, both massive ins for them, if they come up. Whitfield is very underrated IMO.
Should feel like a GWS old boys reunion for several of our blokes.
Do GWS have carte blanc as well to beat the +*,'! From us or are the umpires going to do their job for once?
Great...Mummy and Whitfield probably back and GWS probably going to be tackle crazy given they didnt lay too many vs the Hawks.
DeBoer on Cripps to be critical, I might include Kennedy this week vs his old mob and give him Kelly or Coniglio to follow around.
Kennedy has almost become our forgotten man!
Great...Mummy and Whitfield probably back and GWS probably going to be tackle crazy given they didnt lay too many vs the Hawks.
DeBoer on Cripps to be critical, I might include Kennedy this week vs his old mob and give him Kelly or Coniglio to follow around.
I guess the upside is how much of a challenge it will be, making a win all the more impressive. Gulp.
I guess the upside is how much of a challenge it will be, making a win all the more impressive. Gulp.
The media this week will pump up GWS to atone for their Hawks loss. Similar to what they did with Norp in the lead up to our game.
Will make the win all the more sweeter >:(
Assuming Newman comes up but Jones and Simpson do not we have missing from our backline
Simpson Jones Plowman
Williamson Macreadie Docherty
Not a bad defence on its own. No wonder we struggle a bit.
A lot will turn on their selections. If Cameron Mummy and Whitfield don't come up they are a very different proposition to the team that has those 3 fit and playing.
Reckon it might be time for H's breakout game. Plenty to like thus far, but we're ready for him to announce himself with an authoritative bag of six pointers and many contested grabs.
Reckon it might be time for H's breakout game. Plenty to like thus far, but we're ready for him to announce himself with an authoritative bag of six pointers and many contested grabs.
I like your optimism, but Norp are the weakest defense in the AFL and they kept him scoreless, check out the Stats HERE (https://www.finalsiren.com/MatchDetails.asp?GameID=8135&Code=14c09eea2a84bc40b80b370cfb552048&Sort=Disposals%20Desc). McKay had a massive Casboultian moment, in a loss that was apparently all sMurph's fault!
Perhaps he should have spent more time studying the opposition and less time stuffing onions in lockers!
I think the GWS defenders might run him into the ground.
CARLTON
B: Dale Thomas, Jacob Weitering, Caleb Marchbank
HB: Marc Murphy, Mitch McGovern, Jack Silvagni
C: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Patrick Cripps, Ed Curnow
HF: Zac Fisher, Charlie Curnow, Will Setterfield
F: Michael Gibbons, Harry McKay, David Cuningham
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Sam Walsh, Paddy Dow
Int: Harrison Macreadie, Nic Newman, Liam Stocker, Levi Casboult, Lochie O'Brien, Matthew Kennedy, Jarrod Garlett, Alex Fasolo (Four to be omitted)
IN: Harrison Macreadie, Nic Newman, Lochie O'Brien, Matthew Kennedy, Jarrod Garlett, Alex Fasolo
OUT: Tom Williamson (Injured), Lachie Plowman (Injured)
GWS GIANTS
B: Zac Williams, Nick Haynes, Heath Shaw
HB: Sam Taylor, Phil Davis, Sam J. Reid
C: Jeremy Finlayson, Tim Taranto, Adam Tomlinson
HF: Matt de Boer, Jeremy Cameron, Daniel Lloyd
F: Brent Daniels, Harry Himmelberg, Toby Greene
R: Shane Mumford, Jacob Hopper, Josh Kelly
Int: Lachie Whitfield, Dawson Simpson, Isaac Cumming, Jackson Hately, Brett Deledio, Lachlan Keeffe, Adam Kennedy, Harry Perryman (Four to be omitted)
IN: Shane Mumford, Lachie Whitfield, Isaac Cumming, Jackson Hately, Brett Deledio, Lachlan Keeffe, Harry Perryman
OUT: Stephen Coniglio (Injured), Zac Langdon (Injured), Matt Buntine (Omitted)
Mumford coming in is a big 'in' for them. Hopefully he is not as effective as he used to be, but he is certainly no cleaner. Coniglio is a huge 'out'.
Our defence is looking very threadbare. It might be improving significantly in the next couple of weeks, but that won't help us this weekend. I am a bit surprised with Macreadie being chosen, and absolutely horrified to see Fasolo's name on the list.
Not as horrifying as seeing o brien named.
If he plays we wont win.
Conligio has a sore pinky, bit like Beams who suddenly got sore but I see is straight back for the Pies this week.....think the GWS man might be having a managed holiday.
See GWS have picked Keefe who is a big defender and will probably pick up Harry, Mummy is is a big plus for them and will probably try and body slam a few of our little blokes disguised as tackles of course.
Just saw the last time we played them they won by a lazy 105 points. And that game was in melb :o
However out of the 22 players that took the field in that game only 9 are playing in this week game so that’s 13 changes in one year!
Makes you realise how inexperienced our current best team is, in terms of playing continuity as a group....
Don’t think we will win but play with the intensity and belief we did last week and we will scare the sh1t out of them. And if we for once get a decent run off the umpires maybe we can upset them.
Just saw the last time we played them they won by a lazy 105 points. And that game was in melb :o
However out of the 22 players that took the field in that game only 9 are playing in this week game so I’m other words 13 changes.
When you see that you realise how inexperienced our current best team is, in terms of playing continuity as a group....
Don’t think we will win but play with the intensity and belief we did last week and we will scare the sh1t out of them. And if we for once get a decent run off the umpires maybe we can upset them.
...and off the top of my head, the time before that we beat them by a point, here. CBF checking how many changes we've had since then.
I just remember it was one of my kids 1st game, he was our lucky charm.
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However out of the 22 players that took the field in that game only 9 are playing in this week game so I’m other words 13 changes.
When you see that you realise how inexperienced our current best team is, in terms of playing continuity as a group....
Don’t think we will win but play with the intensity and belief we did last week and we will scare the sh1t out of them. And if we for once get a decent run off the umpires maybe we can upset them.
Yes, agree. Understanding context, dynamics and history is important.
Over our blokes being physically beaten up. Somebody has to stand up to the likes of MumThug, if he tackles-slams somebody we must counter at some point with some retribution - it doesn't have to be him, just make a few of the others start looking sideways. GWS aren't a hard side - they wont like it if we push back.
Over our blokes being physically beaten up. Somebody has to stand up to the likes of MumThug, if he tackles-slams somebody we must counter at some point with some retribution - it doesn't have to be him, just make a few of the others start looking sideways. GWS aren't a hard side - they wont like it if we push back.
GWS were poor last week and we are not without a chance, they must be cocky resting Coniglio and if we can do the pushing they might fold up like they did last week.
Target Kelly and Whitfield for close attention and make sure we look after Cripps at the stoppages and deal with Debeor like Mummy will deal with our onball kids if he gets a chance.
O'Brien, Garlett and Fasolo named.....don't recall any of them doing anything in the VFL in recent weeks!!!
O'Brien, Garlett and Fasolo named.....don't recall any of them doing anything in the VFL in recent weeks!!!
I haven't seen too much of the VFL reports lately, but with the injury carp we have going on I think we are looking for anything that will vaguely fit into the open gaps.
Speaking of injuries do we know the extent of Williamson's "back" injury. Is it a relapse. Can't help but think he may not make it now...
With Plowman and Williamson out and Newman back, then probably just one more defender so maybe Garlett gets a shot (gulp). One of Levi or McGovern will have to play back as they'll have Cameron, Finlayson and Himmelberg up forward. Would still like Kennedy in that team to give Cripps a chop out....no one else is stepping up in the midfield to help.
......................................... Would still like Kennedy in that team to give Cripps a chop out....no one else is stepping up in the midfield to help.
Not happy with Setterfield's work ?
Speaking of injuries do we know the extent of Williamson's "back" injury. Is it a relapse. Can't help but think he may not make it now...
So is it confirmed as back, I had heard he may have a new unrelated injury?
So is it confirmed as back, I had heard he may have a new unrelated injury?
In the injury report, it was stated that he hyper-extended his back.
PP...yeah happy having Setterfield but he seems to play more outside/wing than in the guts. Kennedy seems to be regularly in the best in the VFL (don't get much of it over here) but there seems to be other guys that get a berth in the team ahead of him....just curious as to whether there's something about his game that's not up to standard? I guess we'll see later this arvo when final squads are announced.
PP...yeah happy having Setterfield but he seems to play more outside/wing than in the guts. Kennedy seems to be regularly in the best in the VFL (don't get much of it over here) but there seems to be other guys that get a berth in the team ahead of him....just curious as to whether there's something about his game that's not up to standard? I guess we'll see later this arvo when final squads are announced.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-05-08/carlton-coaches-corner-will-setterfield
Dated 8th May.
PP...yeah happy having Setterfield but he seems to play more outside/wing than in the guts. Kennedy seems to be regularly in the best in the VFL (don't get much of it over here) but there seems to be other guys that get a berth in the team ahead of him....just curious as to whether there's something about his game that's not up to standard? I guess we'll see later this arvo when final squads are announced.
So far Setters hasn't had the physique to be an inside player: he had the height and he wasn't slow, but he was a stick figure against The Mountain. As a result he has been an outside player, much in the way the young Kouta was. Setters hasn't taken many big marks, but he does have decent hands. In time he will develop. His injuries have stunted his development so far, no doubt.
At the moment he isn't really doing enough (my humble opinion). However, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he gets his body and mind right.
I am hopeful of seeing improvement in numbers and intensity as the season goes on. If that doesn't happen, then I will be asking questions.
Kennedy has been doing well enough in the VFL, but he hasn't been tearing games apart. As an inside player with a big body, I was expecting more power inside, like Cripps has. I haven't seen much of that yet. He has been quite reasonable at getting the ball outside, but that is not what we were looking for from him. His marking is OK, but his defensive efforts to this point have been substandard. His kicking for goal has not been particularly reliable to this point: think Levi Casboult. I have not given up on this guy yet, but I am looking for clearances, tackles and goals.
Last year, against the Tigers, he had 7 possessions in the first quarter before getting injured. Three of those lead directly to scores. If he can keep that up, then he will have a spot.
Newman and Macreadie in for Plowman and Williamson.
Newman and Macreadie in for Plowman and Williamson.
Im ok with that, like for like. Now go and do the business.
Macreadie is down as 6’6” in the old. Does that surprise anyone else???
Macreadie is down as 6’6” in the old. Does that surprise anyone else???
Nope.
He was 196cm when we drafted him.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-dig-deep-into-defensive-stocks-20190517-p51olc.html
No Coniglio or Langdon - two significant outs....
Coniglio has been their best by some distance this year.
Mumford will be slower than snail. Kreuzer needs to work him over....
I really like our chances.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-dig-deep-into-defensive-stocks-20190517-p51olc.html
No Coniglio or Langdon - two significant outs....
Coniglio has been their best by some distance this year.
Mumford will be slower than snail. Kreuzer needs to work him over....
I really like our chances.
I reckon we are some chance too...very cocky to rest Coniglio( I dont buy the injury story at all, like Beams he has been rested IMO)
Prefer if Mummy wasnt playing, Kreuzer doesnt really enjoy the big physical types so as you say I hope he can tire Mummy out...
Cripps will need to shake Debeor and have a blinder for us to win though...Kelly, Taranto, Whitfield and Hopper is still a decent unit.
The other problem will be Cameron , if he is on thats probably the end of the game, big challenge for Weitering...
I reckon we are some chance too...very cocky to rest Coniglio( I dont buy the injury story at all, like Beams he has been rested IMO)
Prefer if Mummy wasnt playing, Kreuzer doesnt really enjoy the big physical types so as you say I hope he can tire Mummy out...
Cripps will need to shake Debeor and have a blinder for us to win though...Kelly, Taranto, Whitfield and Hopper is still a decent unit.
The other problem will be Cameron , if he is on thats probably the end of the game, big challenge for Weitering...
If the pies 'team' can't stop Crippa, Deboer has no chance...
Kreuzer should relish this....
Cameron - our midfield stops him, not Weiters or Macreadie.....
It's a big game for Casboult.
He's in the team as backup ruck and tall defender.
I don't think he has a hope in hell against Cameron, so he better be good at zoning off and blocking his run/space.
Ruck wise it's as good as you could hope for with Mumford. Cas should throw his weight around and run off his ruck opponent for the first time ever. It's just down to how much ruck time hell have against mummy. Not much I suspect.
Sounds silly, but if Casboult can have a good game we're in with a chance. I can't help but feel hell be a liability in this game purely down to match ups down back.
I'd really like to see Macreadie get a good run at it. I reckon he is a pure defender, knows when to mark it, knows when to punch it, has good speed for a big fella and is a good kick. Given time in the side, I hope he can cement himself in our back line. From the small sample size that I have seen, talent and defence wise, I prefer him to Plowman (who has been very ordinary this year). Reminds me a little of Grimes.
I'd really like to see Macreadie get a good run at it. I reckon he is a pure defender, knows when to mark it, knows when to punch it, has good speed for a big fella and is a good kick. Given time in the side, I hope he can cement himself in our back line. From the small sample size that I have seen, talent and defence wise, I prefer him to Plowman (who has been very ordinary this year). Reminds me a little of Grimes.
Me too but he's straight back from injury - again?
I would have given Goddard a crack but you'd think Macreadie is more mobile....
Me too but he's straight back from injury - again?
I would have given Goddard a crack but you'd think Macreadie is more mobile....
He returned when Williamson did. Hes had a couple of vfl games and they just had a bye round.
I think he's played 2 matches in the vfl. From what I've seen of Goddard he's only going to get a go if there are no other options available for key talls.
CARLTON
B: Dale Thomas, Jacob Weitering, Caleb Marchbank
HB: Nic Newman, Mitch McGovern, Jack Silvagni
C: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Patrick Cripps, Ed Curnow
HF: Zac Fisher, Charlie Curnow, Marc Murphy
F: Michael Gibbons, Harry McKay, Will Setterfield
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Sam Walsh, Paddy Dow
Int: Harrison Macreadie, David Cuningham, Liam Stocker, Levi Casboult
Emg: Lochie O'Brien, Matthew Kennedy, Jarrod Garlett, Alex Fasolo
IN: Nic Newman, Harrison Macreadie
OUT: Tom Williamson (Injured), Lachie Plowman (Injured)
GWS GIANTS
B: Zac Williams, Nick Haynes, Heath Shaw
HB: Sam Taylor, Phil Davis, Sam J. Reid
C: Jeremy Finlayson, Tim Taranto, Adam Tomlinson
HF: Matt de Boer, Jeremy Cameron, Daniel Lloyd
F: Brent Daniels, Harry Himmelberg, Toby Greene
R: Shane Mumford, Jacob Hopper, Josh Kelly
Int: Lachie Whitfield, Brett Deledio, Adam Kennedy, Harry Perryman
Emg: Dawson Simpson, Lachlan Keeffe, Isaac Cumming, Jackson Hately
IN: Shane Mumford, Lachie Whitfield, Brett Deledio, Harry Perryman
OUT: Dawson Simpson (Omitted), Stephen Coniglio (Injured), Zac Langdon (Injured), Matt Buntine (Omitted)
I am happy to see Fasolo not in the team.
I’m sitting in a conference just across the road from Giants ground, literally 50 or 100 metres away. Open training starts at 3 pm. “Guidelines for new injectable diabetes medications" starts at 3.15. :-\
Kennedy, O’Brien, Garnett are all non starters for the Northern Blues. I smell at least 1 change.
Kennedy, O’Brien, Garnett are all non starters for the Northern Blues. I smell at least 1 change.
Hope its Kennedy in and not the other two...very surprised he wasnt picked vs his old mob.
I’m sitting in a conference just across the road from Giants ground, literally 50 or 100 metres away. Open training starts at 3 pm. “GGuidelines for new injectable diabetes medications" at 3.15
Don’t worry, you’ll be able to find a summary of “Guidelines for new injectable diabetes medications" somewhere on the internet by 5....go check out the training!! ;)
Kennedy, O’Brien, Garnett are all non starters for the Northern Blues. I smell at least 1 change.
Reckon it’s just added insurance because we are playing late Sunday- doesn’t surprise me we are taking an extra emergency.
Will probably train or at least have a run later today so I’m sure we will hear if someone was not there.
I’m sitting in a conference just across the road from Giants ground, literally 50 or 100 metres away. Open training starts at 3 pm. “Guidelines for new injectable diabetes medications" starts at 3.15. :-\
So I guess you wont know that much about guidelines for new injectable diabetes medications then.
Reckon it’s just added insurance because we are playing late Sunday- doesn’t surprise me we are taking an extra emergency.
Will probably train or at least have a run later today so I’m sure we will hear if someone was not there.
Three sounds a bit much for simply insurance, especially as O'Brien and Garlett are similar outside types and Kennedy a mid sized player as well. Its not like we are taking three versatile and mutually complimentary types to cover unexpected contingencies - eg Jones/Kerr/Lang as travelling emergencies would cover just abut any unexpected late withdrawal even if not that satisfactorily.
I’m sitting in a conference just across the road from Giants ground, literally 50 or 100 metres away. Open training starts at 3 pm. “Guidelines for new injectable diabetes medications" starts at 3.15. :-\
Are the bombers training at the conference?
Just back from the open training with my 9yo son
Beautiful afternoon in Sydney and another belter forecast for tomorrow. Not many people there and my lad got photos with nearly every player.
All 3 of the emergencies trained and we didn’t spot Cunningham out there. I might be mistaken but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t out there.
What did surprise me was the size of Liam Stocker. He has very big legs and is a beautiful kick on both sides of his body. Looks like he has all the tools. Weitering has really filled out and Marchbank moves incredibly well for a guy his size. Doc did stride through sand run laps for 45 minutes under Russell’s tutelage.
Nice report sbf. Thanks for that.
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Just back from the open training with my 9yo son
Beautiful afternoon in Sydney and another belter forecast for tomorrow. Not many people there and my lad got photos with nearly every player.
All 3 of the emergencies trained and we didn’t spot Cunningham out there. I might be mistaken but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t out there.
What did surprise me was the size of Liam Stocker. He has very big legs and is a beautiful kick on both sides of his body. Looks like he has all the tools. Weitering has really filled out and Marchbank moves incredibly well for a guy his size. Doc did stride through sand run laps for 45 minutes under Russell’s tutelage.
Cheers for that. Will be dissapointed if Cunners misses, we need his pace.
Indeed. Cunners has really shown something so far this year.
O’Brien in Cunningham out
General soreness.... >:(
Cunningham out.
O’Brien in.
Bigger loss then it may look I reckon. Is one of only a few that we have that has geniune speed around the ball.
Surely Kennedy against his own mob should have been given a go ahead of O’Brien.
Cunningham out.
O’Brien in.
Bigger loss then it may look I reckon. Is one of only a few that we have that has geniune speed around the ball.
Surely Kennedy against his own mob should have been given a go ahead of O’Brien.
Agree....maybe the brains trust think we cant win and LOB needs the development vs Kelly and crew.
I would have picked Kennedy as I think he would be value and know the opposition better but he seems on the outer at the moment....
Cunningham out.
O’Brien in.
Bigger loss then it may look I reckon. Is one of only a few that we have that has geniune speed around the ball.
Surely Kennedy against his own mob should have been given a go ahead of O’Brien.
Hard to see how O’brien gets picked before Kennedy.
I just don’t get why he gets to develop in the firsts while Kennedy keeps running out in the vfl to work on his game. (Or this week - not play at all)
Agree....maybe the brains trust think we cant win and LOB needs the development vs Kelly and crew.
I would have picked Kennedy as I think he would be value and know the opposition better but he seems on the outer at the moment....
I'm pretty shocked he hasn't cracked it for a game yet. He has been dominating some games in the VFL, has a bigger body and has been on the fringes for a while. Some have leapfrogged him going in and out of the side. It seems he is the 23rd best player on our list, and 22nd and 24th seem to swap positions every week. Not sure what else he needs to do.
re Intel vs GWS, that works both ways though. Maybe GWS know his weakness and can take him out of the game relatively easy. Who knows.
As for LOB <-> Cunners swap. Its as much about speed as anything else i suspect. LOB is pretty quick. We just don't get to see it enough.
At least my eyesight is still working :D
I reckon we are worried more about their outside run given our size. I will watch him closely.
I'm pretty shocked he hasn't cracked it for a game yet. He has been dominating some games in the VFL, has a bigger body and has been on the fringes for a while. Some have leapfrogged him going in and out of the side. It seems he is the 23rd best player on our list, and 22nd and 24th seem to swap positions every week. Not sure what else he needs to do.
re Intel vs GWS, that works both ways though. Maybe GWS know his weakness and can take him out of the game relatively easy. Who knows.
As for LOB <-> Cunners swap. Its as much about speed as anything else i suspect. LOB is pretty quick. We just don't get to see it enough.
Maybe Kennedy called BB and SOS a c@nt behind closed doors and they have long memories. Stranger things have happened to keep players from getting a game. ????
I am all for the direction of the club but the selection of LOB has me totally baffled, he has done SFA.
Hard to see how O’brien gets picked before Kennedy.
Maybe it ‘the need for speed’. O’Brien has it, Kennedy doesn’t. But then you need to get the pill!!
I am all for the direction of the club but the selection of LOB has me totally baffled, he has done SFA.
We'll lose - picking him is going in with one less player.
The kids only 19 granted but shouldn't be picked on form or output....madness.
O'Brien will be ok in a couple of years but he's too small right now. Why not Kennedy?
European Race walking Cup is on. Lots of people I know in it so the footy will come 2nd today. An on and off thing.
Given the opposition and the fact they are on the rebound it might not matter. As long as they don't beat us by 100pts again while playing the last qtr with 16 men.
Maybe it ‘the need for speed’. O’Brien has it, Kennedy doesn’t. But then you need to get the pill!!
One thing Jack Dyer used to say all the time, "no good being where the ball aint".
O'Brien will be ok in a couple of years but he's too small right now. Why not Kennedy?
European Race walking Cup is on. Lots of people I know in it so the footy will come 2nd today. An on and off thing.
Given the opposition and the fact they are on the rebound it might not matter. As long as they don't beat us by 100pts again while playing the last qtr with 16 men.
LOB doesnt contest well enough at this stage and is very outside which is fine if you hit your targets and help create for others but he doesnt do the outside well enough to
compensate for his lack of inside game.
LOB doesnt contest well enough at this stage and is very outside which is fine if you hit your targets and help create for others but he doesnt do the outside well enough to
compensate for his lack of inside game.
Can't argue with that.
Strap in Bluebaggers.
Go Blues
O’Brien in Cunningham out
General soreness.... >:(
LOB?
Baffling. Yes, Cuningham is quick and LOB is quicker than Kennedy but ...but... ::) ::)
LOB doesnt contest well enough at this stage and is very outside which is fine if you hit your targets and help create for others but he doesnt do the outside well enough to
compensate for his lack of inside game.
Surely garlett is a better alternative to lob at this stage.
No, Garrett is more of the same. Kennedy is the obvious one to bring in.
Kerr must be close too, been BOG for the NBs in two games and has a bit of crap in him.
Surely garlett is a better alternative to lob at this stage.
Garlett is another player who isnt contested material and along with Lebois needs to be moved on.
Pickett at least can win his own ball and is a robust enough player but not robust enough to stay on the park unfortunately.
Garlett is another player who isnt contested material and along with Lebois needs to be moved on.
Pickett at least can win his own ball and is a robust enough player but not robust enough to stay on the park unfortunately.
Garlett vs Lochie O Brien (if we are looking at outside run etc).
O brien keeps getting chances, but I have yet to see the requisite number of posessions, or endeavour.
Garlett appears to have ability to rack up possessions at least.
Neither have intestinal fortutide, but I find myself once again wondering why we bother with non hackers who
are yet to prove they can hurt anyone on the outside.
Cameron Polson isnt going to win many games for us, but at least his opponents know they played against him.