All ready for tomorrow. I won't be seeing a single minute, so those who can, please shout for me.
Well could be interesting , hoping Rowe goes forward today, see some attitude and a good contest
It has been confirmed, Simpson will not be playing. Lang is in.
I consider that a huge out and a major disadvantage to us.
Yes will be a loss , but chance for Lang
First goal to Brisbane: Rayner. >:(
It has been confirmed, Simpson will not be playing. Lang is in.
I consider that a huge out and a major disadvantage to us.
300 games of guts and courage replaced by 50 games of pea heart.
We are being beaten outside at the moment. They have over double the uncontested possessions, 10 to 23.
Charlie show continues , great goal
Charlie show continues , great goal
Just what we need!
Sad thing , we are the worse scoring side in the league for years, we are playing the second bottom side and our 3 forward hopes Mackay, Kerr & Levi, all can't get a game, it's an indication of where we really are
Sad thing , we are the worse scoring side in the league for years, we are playing the second bottom side and our 3 forward hopes Mackay, Kerr & Levi, all can't get a game, it's an indication of where we really are
Indeed.
This game is NOT high scoring one so far: 15 minutes and 1 goal each.
Sad thing , we are the worse scoring side in the league for years, we are playing the second bottom side and our 3 forward hopes Mackay, Kerr & Levi, all can't get a game, it's an indication of where we really are
No, an indication of crape team selection. Hasn't been alot wrong with our key forwards, until Levi got injured and lost form. Lately, together with Charlie, they seem the only ones who can score. Pity we didn't pick any of them other than Charlie.
Well obviously not pushing for game time or they would have been selected. You would think we are picking our best options
Philips down in the rooms
Philips down in the rooms
We have a trillion talls in our side that can cover for him.
No, an indication of crape team selection. Hasn't been alot wrong with our key forwards, until Levi got injured and lost form. Lately, together with Charlie, they seem the only ones who can score. Pity we didn't pick any of them other than Charlie.
Local predict rain, so later it might not be a talls game, but if true why the two rucks?
Our MC is a mystery wrapped in an enigma!
No, an indication of crape team selection. Hasn't been alot wrong with our key forwards, until Levi got injured and lost form. Lately, together with Charlie, they seem the only ones who can score. Pity we didn't pick any of them other than Charlie.
Maybe not 'crap', but certainly questionable.
Jack Silvagni is the only one on either team not to have a possession yet. We lead by 3 points.
Nice pressure caused a turnover, nice goal SPF in the end
More of that please SPS
Important thing is we actually converted from the team effort
Was listening to ABC Grandstand while watching, had to change stations because they started banging on about Marc Murphy rejecting the Lions, twelve years ago!
FFS, where do they find these commentary spuds!
8 Possessions to Matthew Kennedy, 6 to Marchbank and 6 to Lang. Trying to make an early point? I don't know. But I wish I could see the SPS goal! :)
Goal to them. 11 inside 50's to 6.
Looks like we are good at kicking points: 2 - 5 - 17 to 2 - 1 - 13
Great to see Marchbank back, Weitering also seems more confident
Charlie's dropped a couple he'd usually swallow.
Looks like we are good at kicking points: 2 - 5 - 17 to 2 - 1 - 13
They get one to hit the front. They've had a lot of the ball.
8 Possessions to Matthew Kennedy, 6 to Marchbank and 6 to Lang. Trying to make an early point? I don't know. But I wish I could see the SPS goal! :)
Goal to them. 11 inside 50's to 6.
Those bloody red time goals again.
Too predictable going forward, often Charlie has two or three on him and yet we kick it on his head.
FFS Carlton, over coached bullcrap football as usual, not an independent thought among them!
They get one to hit the front. They've had a lot of the ball.
We are 23 possessions behind, but lead the inside 50's 15 to 7. We won the contested football easily, but the uncontested ball has gone their way. 73% of the time the ball was in our forward half, yet we have 2 goals to show for it. Very frustrating.
Please Bolton, abandon the zone defence that pushes up the ground and leaves the opposition to run through it and break to goal faster than than we man up.
Keep it simple and just play tight accountable defence, maybe with a loose player back.
We cannot go on with defensive tactics that don't work.
Here’s a thought.....hold your friggin’ marks Charlie.....
13 possessions to Beams and 9 to Gardiner in defence.
For us, Kreuzer: 6, Lang: 7, Cripps: 6, Kennedy: 8, Marchbank: 6, Murphy: 5, Thomas: 5.
Mathieson is an absolute grub with his staging for free kicks
Well, he missed.
Someone squash Hodge: he's had 7 possessions.
Anyone know what role Wright is meant to play these days?
Great selections by the MC, Philips gone for the day by the looks after 10 minutes, a 1 man forward line in Charlie anyway and either Harry or Patty Kerr sitting on their arses back here in Melbourne, well done Bolts and the boys, really top notch selection... >:(
Well, he missed.
Someone squash Hodge: he's had 7 possessions.
Lang doing his best to make old man Hodge look like a cheetah!
Great selections by the MC, Philips gone for the day by the looks after 10 minutes, a 1 man forward line in Charlie anyway and either Harry or Patty Kerr sitting on their arses back here in Melbourne, well done Bolts and the boys, really top notch selection... >:(
That hurts us so much.
Hooray, SoJ got a handball!
How easy do the Lions take it coast to coast, very bad signs!
Not enough from our 'tail':
Silvagni: 1 possession
Jones: 1
Pickett: 1
Charlie 2:
Ed: 3
Rowe: 2
Graham: 3
Hooray, SoJ got a handball!
If his name wasn't Silvagni would he be here next year?
If his name wasn't Silvagni would he be here next year?
You'll get flamed asking questions like that, it's like accusing a certain deity of........., don't go for dinner in Lygon St!
2 goals now to Hipwood. We really need some guys to step up.
Sam Rowe, the answer to all our forward woes, now up inside 50, that’ll help Bolts, good one
The Lions have taken more uncontested marks inside F50 in a half than most teams get in a game!
You'll get flamed asking questions like that, it's like accusing a certain deity of........., don't go for dinner in Lygon St!
Yes you might be right LP lol , will be back in Melb in a few weeks I will watch out. But I wonder how much his name keeps him on the list?
They are dominating the game, over 20 possessions in front and the ball is in their inside 50. Missing Simmo: not so many rebounds.
Real snooze you of a game
BB is obviously not in fear of losing his job, because no AFL coach would deliberately create this game plan if his career was in doubt!
They are dominating the game, over 20 possessions in front and the ball is in their inside 50. Missing Simmo: not so many rebounds.
We are close to 3 goals down now and just not getting the ball. Only 8 possessions to Cripps.
20 possessions to Dayne Beams, and 12 to Hodge. But who is going to step up?
We are close to 3 goals down now and just not getting the ball. Only 8 possessions to Cripps.
Cripps can't keep up with the fast Lions midfield, and we won't set up to let him use his height or strength!
We've taken a premium Melbourne Cup runner and tried to make him win The Everest!
Amazing effort by Lang to get the don't argue from a first year player. Just sensational.
Out manoeuvred by a geriatric now over powered by a teenager
Ffs
Embarrassing yet again!
Disgraceful efforts - non efforts!
100 point loss coming up.
Lang can just fark right off now. Get changed, get on a plane and fark off back to Geelong. Brushed aside by an 18 yo, embarrassing >:( >:( >:(
Over 3- possessions down and down 23 points down.
I think i'm over Bolton as a coach. We are so poorly drilled as a club. No structure, no skill, no idea what we are supposed to do.
What complete idiot would go with a zoning game that we are no good at in a game that's highly winnable.
Too hot for the Blues today, they are taking short steps everywhere already....pretty weak effort really....looking like Freo all over again
I think i'm over Bolton as a coach. We are so poorly drilled as a club. No structure, no skill, no idea what we are supposed to do.
What complete idiot would go with a zoning game that we are no good at in a game that's highly winnable.
So not tanking, just an accident?
Tell me why Cripps is going to re-sign?
I feel yet another goalless quarter coming on......surely we’re on track to break some sort of season record with that stat.....
Game plan playing into Brisbane's strength. Coaching staff have no idea.
I feel yet another goalless quarter coming on......surely we’re on track to break some sort of season record with that stat.....
A goalless quarter, to the 17th placed team. Just disgraceful
I think i'm over Bolton as a coach. We are so poorly drilled as a club. No structure, no skill, no idea what we are supposed to do.
What complete idiot would go with a zoning game that we are no good at in a game that's highly winnable.
Over 40 possessions down and now losing contested possessions. We had a lead on over 15 there!
29 points down. 2 goals to Barrett!
1 score (a rushed point) to 8 this quarter.
15 to 6 inside 50 this qtr against us hard to make an impact with those stats. This is looking a rabble today, can't blame the heat
Over 40 possessions down and now losing contested possessions. We had a lead on over 15 there!
29 points down. 2 goals to Barrett!
1 score (a rushed point) to 8 this quarter.
Against 17th no less
Same old same old.
We dish this up every time at the Gabba.
We look like we're on holidays and have overindulged on the buffet.....
Why did we recruit Lang. No sign of any contribution to date.
15 to 6 inside 50 this qtr against us hard to make an impact with those stats. This is looking a rabble today, can't blame the heat
It's only 24 degrees in Brisbane. They did an entire preseason through summer.
Pickett's Carlton's fastest player, and gets run down like he's a witches hat!
Why did we recruit Lang. No sign of any contribution to date.
This blokes is another Smedts, a good player when he's gets to be the 5th or 6th stringer!
Zorko will kill us. Again.
It's only 24 degrees in Brisbane. They did an entire preseason through summer.
I am on the Sunshine Coast , only 22 here , really reaching for excuses if we blame the heat
It's only 24 degrees in Brisbane. They did an entire preseason through summer.
Yep, reality is ignoring the commentary about humidity. BOM reports below average humidity today, 20% less than most days this week!
Claims Phillips has done his knee again!
our club hasnt worked out that every crap game of football i suffer through they are losing fans.
this is putrid its screwing rubbish, ive had a screwing gutful of this crap effortless gutless bullcrap that these screwwits dish up, and those maggot screwwit umpires can get screwed too.
I am on the Sunshine Coast , only 22 here , really reaching for excuses if we blame the heat
Thanks for the update RB, I thought it was bullcrap reporting, and it must be!
I bet you our club comes out and uses it as an excuse post match!
The first person that mentions it, BB, SOS, whoever, should get the sack on the spot without regard!
1 behind for the whole quarter and it was rushed.
Against 17th
Well we will have the number 1 draft pick after this for sure
If we consistently push top sides to the brink then I expect to beat Brisbane, no ifs or buts.
We're so good at picking the wrong coaches. How poorly drilled can a side be. Today of all days against this opposition why a zoning game plan. Idiots of the highest order.
(Hoping by going early for a reverse jinx...lol).
1 behind for the whole quarter and it was rushed.
Against 17th
Sad stuff Barbs , and Levi, Mackay, Kerr back in Melb. And no promise in the NBs
Another embarrassing effort at every level - selection, game plan, and execution. We are non competitive against a bottom side. 11 scoring shots to 1 rushed behind for the quarter.
How long do we keep have to watching this tripe? It's just sickening to think how far away we are from even being competitive week to week. At what point does something have to change?????
That's enough for me. Going to watch a replay of the Brazil Belgium game.
#1 pick is all but assured.
Another embarrassing effort at every level - selection, game plan, and execution. We are non competitive against a bottom side. 11 scoring shots to 1 rushed behind for the quarter.
How long do we keep have to watching this tripe? It's just sickening to think how far away we are from even being competitive week to week. At what point does something have to change?????
x2
If we consistently push top sides to the brink then I expect to beat Brisbane, no ifs or buts.
We're so good at picking the wrong coaches. How poorly drilled can a side be. Today of all days against this opposition why a zoning game plan. Idiots of the highest order.
(Hoping by going early for a reverse jinx...lol).
Agreed. This goes well beyond just having young inexperienced players.
Our tactics are broken and the coaching panel won't adapt.
55 - 18 against a young 17th placed side. So similar to 2017 2016.....
When do we learn?
No excuses. We are poorly coached and are executing what ever the game plan is, poorly.
I can keep the faith when there's effort and quality opponents. But this. >:(
Half time and we are 37 points behind after not kicking a goal. Our only score was a rushed point.
We are 53 possessions behind and down in just about every stat. The players who were decent early have dropped out of the game.
If Phillips is done for the day, and probably the season it is embarrassing as he is not a smallest possessions getter! There are 6 players who are equal or less!
That is just not good enough! There are no excuses for this non-effort!
Lang had 2 possessions that quarter, for example. Pickett had NONE! Not a single touch!
Lang had 2 possessions that quarter, for example. Pickett had NONE! Not a single touch!
Pickett had the ball several times, and got run down!
#1 pick is all but assured.
we only play for draft picks these days.
twelve years of membership..... i will think long and hard before renewing because this football club doesnt deserve a fan like me.
Being intimidated by Brisbane, pushed around by their players and we appear to have given up running as we are now just being run off our feet, even Zorko who was out of the game is now back in it and Beams has just run around unopposed all game.
Can anyone play on Hodge?...just for 15 mins to stop him getting easy kicks...
Its not like Brisbane are any good either......
Graham, Polson and Obrien are VFL standard only.....Lang cant be bothered...
Agree.
This game was absolutely f’ing winnable!
Sick of watching this crap - we cannot possibly have too many crap players, something else stinks!
What the f does Lang give us? Lambs stupid dinky handball that then put his teammate under pressure and sure enough there’s a turnover and they get a shot on goal.
How the f does one team have so many players with crap skils!? What is going on?!
Don’t give me talk about the heat ffs
The Club is being derelict in its duties if it DOESN’T request a priority pick.....
we only play for draft picks these days.
twelve years of membership..... i will think long and hard before renewing because this football club doesnt deserve a fan like me.
Problem is we have already a fist of top draft pics running around, not really helping us to far
Being intimidated by Brisbane, pushed around by their players and we appear to have given up running as we are now just being run off our feet, even Zorko who was out of the game is now back in it and Beams has just run around unopposed all game.
Can anyone play on Hodge?...just for 15 mins to stop him getting easy kicks...
Its not like Brisbane are any good either......
Graham, Polson and Obrien are VFL standard only.....Lang cant be bothered...
God knows what that makes our VFL team like!
The Club is being derelict in its duties if it DOESN’T request a priority pick.....
Absolutely!
#1 pick is all but assured.
That's very nice but .... So what???
Can't see another pick 1 will help us too much tbh.
The Club is being derelict in its duties if it DOESN’T request a priority pick.....
We need the No 1 and 2 pick........
Graham, Polson and Obrien are VFL standard only.....
Yet they are not our worst! :o
Commentary around the traps is asking what is our Plan B, I've heard this before!
The Club is being derelict in its duties if it DOESN’T request a priority pick.....
agree
We need the No 1 and 2 pick........
If we go heavy in the draft again why would Cripps stay, it'll be 3 or 4 years before he sees any benefit, his career will be half over?
SEN reporting for 2018 the Lions are +21pts in 2nd halfs, we are
-200 -213pts.
Joy of joy! ;)
Our most recent no 1 pick just stood 2m behind the goal during a shot on goal. That's it. He just stood there.... :o
If we go heavy in the draft again why would Cripps stay, it'll be 3 or 4 years before he sees any benefit, his career will be half over?
We dont have the talent...the 3 drafts of the rebuild hasnt given us what we need to be competitive......Cripps needs to see we have some better kids...you look at Obrien for example.....wrong choice the kid is a bust IMO.
We need 2 or 3 priority picks. But more than that, we need some SPIRIT! Not enough guys out there care at all!
Look, I've given our coaching staff the benefit of the doubt, but this is not a doubt. This is simply a lack of plan, a lack of strategic and tactical nous. We are not getting the leadership at any level.
That's very nice but .... So what???
Can't see another pick 1 will help us too much tbh.
I was being ironic.
Absolutely amazing awesome display utter crape ashamed
Our most recent no 1 pick just stood 2m behind the goal during a shot on goal. That's it. He just stood there.... :o
He's not the problem today, commentary is bagging his fumbling and skills but at least he's getting his hand to the football and getting to the contest, others around him haven't looked like touching it!
I'd be disheartened as well, we are rubbish!
I don't generally criticize players. Just saw some footage and Darcy Lang is moving with no intent or intensity. I've seen more intense purposeful movement by a sloth >:D
Some of the footage being shown on Fox is pretty damning...again. Very lazy footballers at our club, many of them too.
Our current team is the worst I've seen since Fitzroy was in its dying days, maybe even worse than that.
The peanut who said we don't need a priority pick can follow 8 or 10 players out the door.
I don't generally criticize players. Just saw some footage and Darcy Lang is moving with no intent or intensity. I've seen more intense purposeful movement by a sloth >:D
When Hodge ran around Lang you knew immediately he was a bust, that's like a speedboat being lapped by the Titanic!
I was being ironic.
Our club, sadly, is the irony of an AFL club. Really hard to look beyond this effort. It's as bad as our first half against Freo.
I don't generally criticize players. Just saw some footage and Darcy Lang is moving with no intent or intensity. I've seen more intense purposeful movement by a sloth >:D
He isnt interested...game is too hard for him....Kids like Rayner, the Robbos are hitting the packs hard and he doesnt want to know about that type of footy...
Sad stuff Barbs , and Levi, Mackay, Kerr back in Melb. And no promise in the NBs
You could have Lockett, Ablett Snr and Dunstall all up forward together today and it wouldn’t matter. We can’t win the ball and can’t use it well enough to give forwards a chance.
He isnt interested...game is too hard for him....
Yep, it's a tell!
When the going gets tough, he goes missing! I realise he's not on his lonesome, but he's not a kid!
What have we got??
It is simply embarrassing. Not even in the Pagan Days were we this ... spiritless, and we got pounded far too regularly. There is actual talent out there, but they are not performing. Not performing for themselves, not performing for their team mates, not even worrying about the club: this sort of non-effort is the sort that will destroy careers. And not just Andrew McKay.
We deserve relegation.
3 players could have kicked that goal.....
What have we got? NOTHING.
Almost 70 possessions behind and the quarter has only just started! >:( >:( >:(
Murphy got roughed up and lay on the deck for an eternity until Hodge picked him up.
Just embarrassing.
There is actual talent out there, but they are not performing. Not performing for themselves, not performing for their team mates, not even worrying about the club: this sort of non-effort is the sort that will destroy careers.
I've been arguing this for some time.
Players don't recover from too much of this, they are damaged goods and need to leave our club before they can come good!
This accelerated smashing being good for players is bullcrap, ignore the spin!
What we did last year made sense, this year makes no sense at all! We've folded under AFL and membership pressure by trying to play a game plan that doesn't suit our situation.
Ok our defensive efforts are officially crape , almost coast to coast by Bris and we stood like witches hats, no work rate, lack of focus , no pride
8 unanswered goals. Unbelievable.
Oh about to be 9.
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Just a small sample from our collection. ::)
Ok our defensive efforts are officially crape , almost coast to coast by Bris and we stood like witches hats, no work rate, lack of focus , no pride
I disagree. We haven’t made a defensive effort yet
Absolutely amazing awesome display utter crape ashamed
Omg we are absolutely sh1te. I always watch till the final siren but just don’t think I bare much more.
Charlie Curnow is having a shocker and we keep kicking long to him every single time.
8 unanswered goals. Unbelievable.
Oh about to be 9.
They have 7 players rated better than our best.
Blues kick 1 goal in what..... an hour?
Blues kick 1 goal in what..... an hour?
Stefan Martin has more agility than our mids!
Every bit as bad as the Freo game......
The Club is being derelict in its duties if it DOESN’T request a priority pick.....
We have a fist full of them. We need to change the people coaching them. Bolton's going to be yet another coach who hasn't played at the highest level to have done no good.
Blues kick 1 goal in what..... an hour?
Close enough.
The coach isn't having a good game. Leave hodge free behind the ball and lose.
We’re in the 3rd quarter & 7......yes 7 of our players have had 5 possessions or less.....
Charlie Curnow is having a shocker and we keep kicking long to him every single time.
It's what happens when you pick one key forward who's a kid. The defence all go to him. Didn't help him or his confidence dropping two dollys in the first qtr.
I disagree. We haven’t made a defensive effort yet
Touché
We have a fist full of them. We need to change the people coaching them. Bolton's going to be yet another coach who hasn't played at the highest level to have done no good.
Coaches are one thing, but how slow do our recruits look, faster than SoJ no doubt!
That is a draft / trade problem!
I'm starting to understand why certain past players have socially exiled some of our club's greats!
Beams more than double possies than any blue. :-\ :-[ ???
Forwards excused. Everyone else is not working.
Well raining on the Sunshine Coast, so no more talk of heat pls.....
Phillips hammy, not knee as previously thought. Out for the game.
Coaches are one thing, but how slow do our recruits look, faster than SoJ no doubt!
That is a draft / trade problem!
I'm starting to understand why certain past players have socially exiled some of our club's greats!
Coach issue. Our drafting has been way better than it used to be. Every player we've picked in the last 3 years has shown ability. Just poorly drilled.
Thanks for ruining another weekend Carlton, refusing to TURN UP again, refusing to pick forwards in McKay and Kerr and continuing to play hacks like Lamb that are the coaches pet.
Phillips... Another injury, good bye.
Weitering.... Seen enough, dud.
Phillips hammy, not knee as previously thought. Out for the game.
See what happen picking 2 ruckman. If we didn't he wouldn't have got injured...lol!
Being serious though now, hammy is better than a knee.
Halfway through the 3rd quarter and 16 of our players have had 10 possessions or less....
OMFG ????
Coach issue. Our drafting has been way better than it used to be. Every player we've picked in the last 3 years has shown ability. Just poorly drilled.
Nah, cannot agree.
They have "shown" something because they get a game in a dud team, most of them wouldn't get a game at another club!
Not making excuses for the coach, but he's only part of the problem, our fastest are matched by their slowest!
As far as coaching goes, this team and effort has the smell of a whiteant!
Who is left to kibosh?
All the best fellow Bluebaggers. I'm sad to say it. I have more important things to do than watch Carlton. A new low for me.
Ciao
80 possessions less, 14 minutes into the 3rd quarter!
Lamb to the forward line on Hodge please... an hour ago.
Lamb to the forward line on Hodge please... an hour ago.
Goal to Lamb.
Thanks for ruining another weekend Carlton, refusing to TURN UP again, refusing to pick forwards in McKay and Kerr and continuing to play hacks like Lamb that are the coaches pet.
Phillips... Another injury, good bye.
Weitering.... Seen enough, dud.
Agree with some of it. Think Weitering can play. Just confused by the role he has to play. We keeping picking a pile of key defenders in the same time. Better coaching and structure and he'd be a better player.
Thanks for ruining another weekend Carlton, refusing to TURN UP again, refusing to pick forwards in McKay and Kerr and continuing to play hacks like Lamb that are the coaches pet.
Phillips... Another injury, good bye.
Weitering.... Seen enough, dud.
Games like this unfortunately make my confidence in the coach waiver. Its either he is no good or we are tanking. Maybe the in game emotion gets the better of me.
Nah, cannot agree.
They have "shown" something because they get a game in a dud team, most of them wouldn't get a game at another club!
Not making excuses for the coach, but he's only part of the problem, our fastest are matched by their slowest!
They've near all shown something, you know it, I know it. It's up to the coaching staff to get the best out of them, which they are not. Be the same if any of those other good picks at other clubs came to us, We'd turn them to crap. We could turn Dustin Martin to crap.
Has any other team kicked into the man on the mark more than we have today?
FFS
I am furious! F’ing crap
Games like this unfortunately make my confidence in the coach waiver. Its either he is no good or we are tanking. Maybe the in game emotion gets the better of me.
Mine now is gone. It's past waivering. These games are the one's that define his ability to coach and get the best out of the team.
Another goal to Brisbane. :(
They've near all shown something, you know it, I know it. It's up to the coaching staff to get the best out of them, which they are not. Be the same if any of those other good picks at other clubs came to us, We'd turn them to crap. We could turn Dustin Martin to crap.
When an opposition ruckmen runs circles around your small and medium mids in traffic you know you've got a problem.
Our mids and forwards do feck all, the defence are being swamped and there is no effort to press into defence by 2/3rds of our team! Compare that to Beams or Zorko saving goals on the last line!
Of our defenders only Weitering and Thomas are actually making an effort to get to the football, the rest are just spectators and finger pointers guarding turf!
Jones takes a thousand intercepts marks but does feck all else, he offers no support for team-mates, he is taking his craphouse F50 efforts and recreating them in D50!
Marchbank, first game back looks soft and unwilling to do the hard stuff.
Rowe is having a bad day, but he's being used like Inspector Gadget!
Maybe our teaching coach needs to learn some new things
Has any other team kicked into the man on the mark more than we have today?
FFS
I am furious! F’ing crap
Amazing how many basics were stuffing up today. Literally nothing good.
Who is playing on Hipwood?
They've near all shown something, you know it, I know it. It's up to the coaching staff to get the best out of them, which they are not. Be the same if any of those other good picks at other clubs came to us, We'd turn them to crap. We could turn Dustin Martin to crap.
Truth be told, Dusty has been pretty average this year, with that said we would have turned him into a spud
They've near all shown something, you know it, I know it. It's up to the coaching staff to get the best out of them, which they are not. Be the same if any of those other good picks at other clubs came to us, We'd turn them to crap. We could turn Dustin Martin to crap.
All true.
But too many of our players are lazy, unaccountable and dis spirited.
Surely some onus has to be on the footballer.
Aren’t they professional?
To all our players, but more specifically our mids, defenders and coaches; see the guys in that funny maroon uniform running past you towards goal? STAND NEXT TO ONE OF THEM!!!! Run with them, tackle them and above all DON’T LET THEM HAVE SPACE ALL ALONE IN FRONT OF GOAL!!!!!
#abandonzonedefencebolton
Complete lack of intensity ,self believe & desire today ...
Who is playing on Hipwood?
The zone. Guess that means Charlie Curnow
Over 100 possessions down at this point. Not good enough!
A little bit of continuous pressure please for f*cks sake!
Inexcusable.
Embarrassed to be a Carlton supporter, yet again.
Polson is a dud.
Runs like a forking headless chook. And that’s his only strength.
Does absolutely nothing. Nothing. Ever.
But let’s keep playing him.
9 Bris players have more processions than our highest pocession winner. What does that say?
When an opposition ruckmen runs circles around your small and medium mids in traffic you know you've got a problem.
Our mids and forwards do feck all, the defence are being swamped and there is no effort to press into defence by 2/3rds of our team! Compare that to Beams or Zorko saving goals on the last line!
Of our defenders only Weitering and Thomas are actually making an effort to get to the football, the rest are just spectators and finger pointers guarding turf!
Jones takes a thousand intercepts marks but does feck all else, he offers no support for team-mates, he is taking his craphouse F50 efforts and recreating them in D50!
Marchbank, first game back looks soft and unwilling to do the hard stuff.
Rowe is having a bad day, but he's being used like Inspector Gadget!
That's coaching! Whan you decide to plan that zoning game plan in winnable game the players have no idea about then you get this results. Confusion and crap. coaching! Injuries or not, one win tells the story. down from 7 and 6.
We insist on standing 10m off our opponents at all times no matter what. Brisbane have kicked the ball well and simply cut us to pieces as a result.
Coach issue. Our drafting has been way better than it used to be. Every player we've picked in the last 3 years has shown ability. Just poorly drilled.
Spotlights on the drafting Jim...we lack talent, we cant compete with VFL standard players with poor skill levels....
Coaching is poor but SOS is under the pump IMO...GWS list hasnt lived up to the hype and our list rebuild looks like it either stalled or failed.....
The buck stops somewhere....I know we have injuries but we have no depth and a over reliance on two players....
Just not good enough. 63 points and 110 possessions down. Just not good enough.
Polson is a dud.
Runs like a forking headless chook. And that’s his only strength.
Does absolutely nothing. Nothing. Ever.
But let’s keep playing him.
x2 and been re-signed for 2 more years based on zero form IMO
9 Bris players have more processions than our highest pocession winner. What does that say?
The urge is not there. They are not playing for each other. Just a bunch if individuals who happen to have the same colours on.
We insist on standing 10m off our opponents at all times no matter what. Brisbane have kicked the ball well and simply cut us to pieces as a result.
We've no leg speed Jeza.
Our smalls and mids cannot keep up with play and cannot apply pressure to the ball carrier. It leaves our tall defenders guessing about which way to go, so they have no choice but to stand in no-mans land between opposition forwards and hope the kick is not accurate! But with a lack of pressure on the ball carrier the kicks rarely miss the target!
When you see the Lions ball carrier pick off a target inside F50, and the tall defender arrive late, you need to look at who was applying pressure to the kicker! You won't see it on TV though as the camera follows the footy, and our mids and forwards aren't near the ball carrier! But their absence from the picture is the real tell!
Spotlights on the drafting Jim...we lack talent, we cant compete with VFL standard players with poor skill levels....
Coaching is poor but SOS is under the pump IMO...GWS list hasnt lived up to the hype and our list rebuild looks like it either stalled or failed.....
The buck stops somewhere....I know we have injuries but we have no depth and a over reliance on two players....
If only we had VFL standard players.
Reckon a state league all stars team would beat us right now.
Spotlights on the drafting Jim...we lack talent, we cant compete with VFL standard players with poor skill levels....
Coaching is poor but SOS is under the pump IMO...GWS list hasnt lived up to the hype and our list rebuild looks like it either stalled or failed.....
The buck stops somewhere....I know we have injuries but we have no depth and a over reliance on two players....
Some blokes can do no wrong!
Lang lies on the ground while Rayner sprints away from our mids unhindered into F50 and hits a target!
Commentators blame the defenders, but the defenders can't fix that problem!
Hipwood has now outscored us
Dunstall was saying that we have gone to Charlie in F50 17 times. The next highest is 2 times each to other players. Talk about predictability and lack of options!
Darcy Lang. Infuriating
If we were playing in Melbourne we wouldn't be losing by 10 goals: impossible for anyone to kick 10 goals in these conditions! >:D
Not that we would win, but that is another story.
Darcy Lang. Infuriating
As someone said earlier, struggles to show any interest whatsoever.
Hodge keeps offering Murphy pity, is he being genuine or sarcastic!
Good to see McKay in the crowd
Polson. Omg.
Finally gets a chance to take a simple chest mark inside fifty but fluffs it. This kid is bad. Very bad.
Then in the next few minutes gets run down like an absolute dud.
Not sure wtf our selectors see. I just don’t get it.
Good to see McKay in the crowd
I'd rather see some of our other players who are on the field in the crowd tbh.
When we have Marchbank in the side, how the feck does Rowe end up one on one with Hipwood?
Who thought after the disgrace of the Freo game we would hit a new low.
These guys need a rocket
Good to see McKay in the crowd
Yeah laughing and looking like he is having a great time. He couldn’t give 2 sh1ts.
Club is a shambles.
As someone said earlier, struggles to show any interest whatsoever.
He can screw right off out of here.
Nick Graham makes some stupid mistakes and is too slow
To react yet at least he works his guts out
I am glad I'm not seeing this.
People laughed when I suggested we should trade Cripps and Charlie, but they are no help to us at the moment.
We need 6 or 8 good AFL level footballers, and that is the way to get them, opposition clubs will have to force players to come to us, and Cripps and Charlie are the only players with that sort of currency!
Yeah laughing and looking like he is having a great time. He couldn’t give 2 sh1ts.
Might be why he's not getting a game! ;)
Charlie Curnow kicks a goal! 3 goals 1, which is such a high proportion of our score. He's had half a dozen possessions.
Our dependence on Simmo, Cripps, Charlie, has really been highlighted today , so many don't deserve to pull on the jumper , no pride at all
Spotlights on the drafting Jim...we lack talent, we cant compete with VFL standard players with poor skill levels....
Coaching is poor but SOS is under the pump IMO...GWS list hasnt lived up to the hype and our list rebuild looks like it either stalled or failed.....
The buck stops somewhere....I know we have injuries but we have no depth and a over reliance on two players....
Drafting I haven't minded. Most have sown something. You can go through them all and see that. SOS can only draft the talent. It's very much up to the coaches to get the most out of them and that is where we are failing. Bet if other clubs drafted those players they'd be doing alot better. Weitering just looks totally confused by what role he has to do, as would happen when you pick 4 key defenders. We're managing to stuff him right up. Like I said, if we had Dusty we could make him look a dud too.
Trading, that's another matter. Suppose our main targets Plowman, Marchbank and Kennedy now have been good, Phillips a nice pick up but we've had to take their rubbish as well to get those players cheap that has clogged up our list.
Our dependence on Simmo, Cripps, Charlie, has really been highlighted today , so many don't deserve to pull on the jumper , no pride at all
Spot on
List management is sh1t at best.
The players we retain while de-listing others, and the recruiting of GWS recycled types, is not taking us forward!
Think about today's game when Levi extends his contract!
People laughed when I suggested we should trade Cripps and Charlie, but they are no help to us at the moment.
We need 6 or 8 good AFL level footballers, and that is the way to get them, opposition clubs will have to force players to come to us, and Cripps and Charlie are the only players with that sort of currency!
You're right, we laughed...lol.
We have good picks coming out of our @rse as it is. What would we do with the picks anyway, get good players, albeit with less ability than those two, then the coaching staff stuff them up. Maybe as well keep our stars then hope to build around them.
People laughed when I suggested we should trade Cripps and Charlie, but they are no help to us at the moment.
We need 6 or 8 good AFL level footballers, and that is the way to get them, opposition clubs will have to force players to come to us, and Cripps and Charlie are the only players with that sort of currency!
Yeah how about developing the talent we do have.
Commentators just saying how great a pick up Robbo was for Brisbane - ffs.
You're right, we laughed...lol.
We have good picks coming out of our @rse as it is. What would we do with the picks anyway, get good players, albeit with less ability than those two, then the coaching staff stuff them up. Maybe as well keep our stars then hope to build around them.
Draft picks are at best 50/50, we can't afford 50/50.
Giving us draft picks is like giving a busted ar5e beggar a lottery ticket and telling him to enjoy the feast!
List management is sh1t at best.
The players we retain while de-listing others, and the recruiting of GWS recycled types, is not taking us forward!
Think about today's game when Levi extends his contract!
4 GWS players, 3 our prime targets have been ok, just the junk we had to take as steak knives for the cheap picks that are clogging up our list.
Drafting good, coaching and development crape!
134 possessions behind.
Weitering on the pine for the whole qtr , not sure why?
Drafting good, coaching and development crape!
Those things do not explain the lack of individual effort and pride, even if you are in a spud team you play with some pride, most of them have shown none!
Draft picks are at best 50/50, we can't afford 50/50.
Giving us draft picks is like giving a busted ar5e beggar a lottery ticket and telling him to enjoy the feast!
They've been better than that, just poorly coached and developed. Go through them. Near all have shown something. Why haven't we gone further.
Weitering on the pine for the whole qtr , not sure why?
Concussion is the rumor!
Who is our development coach? Is there one?
I guess the Lukosius Cup is ours.
Memo CFC recruiting staff. No. More. Ex-Geelong. Sh1t trucks.
Those things do not explain the lack of individual effort and pride, even if you are in a spud team you play with some pride, most of them have shown none!
That's coaching. Not getting through to the players. crape game plans. Players do have to take responsibility for that aspect as well.
Fisher to Samo - such talent shown there.
The team across the board, not hard workers
Weiters injures again?
Believe it or not, the inside 50's are equal. And we're 74 points behind.
Marchbank down in the rooms as well
They've been better than that, just poorly coached and developed. Go through them. Near all have shown something. Why haven't we gone further.
The surrounding picks are not good enough, we've picked a few likely types and surrounded them with crap trucks!
SPS 2 goals from 10 possessions.
Who is our development coach? Is there one?
SHANE WATSON, HEAD OF DEVELOPMENT (DEFENDERS)
JOSH FRASER, DEVELOPMENT (STOPPAGES) & NORTHERN BLUES SENIOR COACH
BRENT STANTON, DEVELOPMENT COACH (MIDFIELD)
JASON DAVENPORT, DEVELOPMENT COACH (FORWARDS)
Marchbank down in the rooms as well
There is some irony in fans bagging Weitering and lauding this blokes as the missing link!
Marchbank is a 195cm version of Jason Tutt!
Now we know why GWS were happy to see him go!
Concussion is the rumor!
Looks like left shoulder
Lack of interest, intensity and effort isn't coaching.
Seen today who doesn't want to be part of the future: big red line through Darcy Lang today.
Just got home work and turned on the game on fox...and will now turn it off again. Wtf is going on..?? Can someone explain what has happened today ?
We can't: just too bad to describe.
Just got home work and turned on the game on fox...and will now turn it off again. Wtf is going on..?? Can someone explain what has happened today ?
Foxtel are taking the piss out of our club, the Lukosius Cup!
Even Lethal Leigh is bagging us out, and he's never negative!
(This is who we should throw the big dollars at, forget the players!)
Just got home work and turned on the game on fox...and will now turn it off again. Wtf is going on..?? Can someone explain what has happened today ?
1st quarter tight and tough. Looked good.
Second quarter capitulated, one rushed behind scored only. Obliterated. Commentators kept crapping on about heat - it’s 23 degrees. They said it’s hunid. It’s less humid than normal.
No hard running or hard team work. Stupid errors - I counted 5 kicks going into the man on the mark! 5!!!! That’s when I was playing proper attention to this crap show.
A lot of stupid turnovers from dinky handballs.
Cripps invisible. Charlie doing ok. Not noticing anyone else in even a semi positive light.
Disgraceful effort - Darcy Lang can f*ck right off right now. Pointless pick up. Another one.
Looks like left shoulder
Radio confirmed, at first they reported him being slammed in a tackle and groggy, now they are saying it's a shoulder.
Has BB set us up to be Tassie's first AFL team?
There just aren’t enough words to fully describe how shameful this was. Our coaching staff should do the honourable thing and quit
SHANE WATSON, HEAD OF DEVELOPMENT (DEFENDERS)
JOSH FRASER, DEVELOPMENT (STOPPAGES) & NORTHERN BLUES SENIOR COACH
BRENT STANTON, DEVELOPMENT COACH (MIDFIELD)
JASON DAVENPORT, DEVELOPMENT COACH (FORWARDS)
Do any of them deserve to keep their jobs?
It is finally all over. It is a question as to whether this was worse than the Freo game: I'm inclined to think it is. We have been poor against the 2nd worst team in the competition. 65 points. There is so little positive to get out of this.
Do any of them deserve to keep their jobs?
We would get more out of the Philippines basketball coach. At least we might show some aggression.
The surrounding picks are not good enough, we've picked a few likely types and surrounded them with crap trucks!
We've picked better in the lower regions than we have for years. First 4 we picked last year I liked. Year before SPS, good first year, what is happening, maybe leave him forward as midfield isn't his go, Zac Fisher, Tom Williamson, pretty good, Kerr looks a forward, Macreadie has shown something but haven't seen enough of him, Polson, not so good. 2105, Weitering, same as SPS, why has he struggled after a great first year, maybe give him a proper role would help, Harry McKay has been ok, 2 goals a game, Charlie Curnow a superstar, Cunningham, ok i suppose but not sure, still waiting, SOS ok seeing he was cheap but another that wouldn't know his role
Hasn't been too bad considering. If a coach can't make something out of those lot though they shouldn't be coaching. Bet if they played up in Sydney they'd near all be good. That's the difference.
Let's finish this up and move over to the post game thread. There is a lot of anger to express.