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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
One thing I think the umps stuffed up.  Mcgovern juggled a mark, had two hands on it, and Petty knocked it out of his hands.  Play on the call.

That's a mark every week, and there was a few of those last night.  Wet weather footy, you can't make players hold it with an opponent punching it out.  Melbourne scored on the back of one of those.  Must have been 3rd quarter as it was the non punt road end.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Quote from: Baggers on
I think there is a fair bit of hindsight going on, 3 Leos. At the time, we just didn't know. Worst case scenario seemed plausible and frightening.
Science and pollies were all on the back foot and unsure, and most were doing their best.
I don't recall any vaccine manufacturer claiming 100% safety; they spoke of the potential -- albeit low -- risk for some people, hence staying in surgeries/pharmacies for 15 minutes after the innoculation before leaving. But as troubling as it was to know, there was a low risk for some folks, as there is with every medication/vaccine.
In hindsight some pollies overreacted and some under-reacted. Few got it right - in hindsight.





Not really Baggers.   By the time the vaccines came around we had a much better view of the virus and its potential to cause harm.  The worst case scenario wasn't happening.  That much was obvious in health care. 
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Quote from: PaulP on
There are very few areas in life that don't involve a risk to benefit comparison. Apparently, 2 or 3 per 100,000 people vaccinated with AZ ended up with TTS. Granted, nobody wants to be one of those 2 or 3, but all things considered, there are a great many people who reaped the benefits of having an AZ vaccination (not to mention their close associates and loved ones) and very few that did not.

The issue is that the data used to support both sets of numbers were used to paint a picture.

The adverse reactions to the vaccines under reported as coincidences.  Likewise the number of people significantly impacted by covid were over stated.

The vaccine companies (all) made wide sweeping shonky claims afmbout efficacy to go with it and you end up with a scenario where most people questioned what the best outcome was going to be. 

When you strip it all bare, covid was no walk in the park.  It isn't the killer it was made out to be either but it left the general public questioning what was the lesser of two evils and real doctors were silenced on the matter and it became politicised.

Where you sit in any of it is subjective and largely determined by personal choices but I saw some extremely autocratic behaviour which I'm hoping never gets repeated.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Domestic violence and why the government will struggle to attention the problem.
Quote from: Mantis on
Thank you guys for your kind thoughts.

I will do my best to answer any questions. Give me a little time to collect my thoughts please. I am In the process of selling my house. My deepest apologies.
Don't feel you have to answer to anything, you have already shared heaps.  Just makes me wonder.  I do that.  Its my nature.

Still don't understand it, but maybe thats part of the issue.  Its irrational and understanding the irrational is sometimes impossible.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
At the ground, I saw Fantasia working back to cover Steele Sidebottom and giving Cotters a chop out.

Hes not amazing, but him and Durds were both getting up the ground a significant way.  Owies I like, hes dangerous.  The problem we had was probably more to do with our forward entries and where the ball was being put, rather than where the guys were and werent getting to. So many times, the ball was being rebounded, because we kicked to a contest where we were outnumbered.  The collingwood backs were working up and down the ground all day, and they had 2 additional days break to do so.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Domestic violence and why the government will struggle to attention the problem.
Yep really sorry you went through it.  No excusing any of it.  Wondering how it started so well and then seemingly flipped.  Wondering what else occurred to cause some grief there but being small it was harder to understand.  I dont know but there's no condoning that action.  Was he too of Croatian descent?  I know in the Balkans it's common for wives to stand by their husbands even when they shouldn't.  In this case sounds like that happened with your mum (or a lack of options once the girl arrived).

Hopefully you have a good relationship with your half sister and I mean no blame or shame with this at all.  I just can't understand it which speaks for why I won't perpetuate the cycle of this behaviour more than anything else.

We are all here for you mate.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Not to mention TDK has been a very dangerous addition to the forwardline, and he has been scoring his 1 to 2 goals a game (should have had 3 against the Pies, but missed one that was gettable).

I think we just need to tidy it up a bit, and be a bit smarter and we will be fine.  No need to panic, its not a personell issue, its an execution problem. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Frees were even overall and we cant mask the errors we made by blaming umpires....the Pendlebury kick was 50/50 imo and we wouldnt want that paid against us in the same situation.....if he had a man on him at the ball up we wouldnt have had an issue like when he kicked that important goal from an easy leadup mark inside 50 where some lazy Carlton opponent didnt pick him up and he was miles in the clear.

The count might have been even but the infringing wasn't and paying a free kick instead of a mark at times makes it even.  Ignoring the ones that were there and paying twiggy touchwood ones are the problem.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Quote from: Mantis on
Watching Melbourne against Geelong was an almost better side than when they won the last flag. Hard to find a weak link. If our pressure is just slightly off for a short period and if we continue to bomb long expecting talls to take a mark by chance, we will be given a lesson in how to lose another match.
who Melbourne or Geelong?  Had Cameron kicked like last week Geelong would have won.


What Melbourne didn't do is attack the ball carrier leaving players free in defensive 50.  They worked backwards to cover options which artificially creates panic and makes players kick longer to a contest.

We didn't change this against Geelong until it was far too late, and paid dearly for it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
He gave away 2 or 3 frees for holding plain and simple, his opponents had him bluffed. Not a defenders a-hole.
I called out Walsh immediately and will continue to.

Those frees were garbage.  He gave them away...


Let me kill that argument slightly.

Elliott engages his opponent to push off and create separation. They grab each other. Ump sees it pays a free kick. Watch every single duel and tell me that they aren't all identical.  I watched Rhys Stanley do similar to Max gawn (and arguably worse) and it was play on. 

The subjective nature here is what the problem is.  They ping Williams twice and then don't pay another free like it until mason Cox gets a bit of the same.

That equated to about 3 goals.  There was also the cripps handball paid holding the ball and then the jack crisp "drop" handball that was paid play on.

These things are a frequent occurrence, and I don't really debate the action I debate the consistency.   It's a free in our defensive 50 but you won't find a similar free for essentially the same action in our forward 50.  Why? 

The blocks that occur that take walsh off daicos and at other times cowan off Elliott.

They're not illegal.   Their blokes get on the bike and run around others who are there to hold illegally but no one cares about those holds. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Quote from: LP on
I think Voss might have been eating a bit of humble pie, we went into that game with a perceived advantage that the Filth turned into a weakness.

Out coached?

Out coached is interesting.   I cant really take it when you lose by a goal and the scores were level with 2 minutes left. 

Do you get outcoached in that circumstance?  Pues had extra rest too after anzac day.  The second quarter was our worst and where we let the game slip but our handballs and errant kicking had more to do with it than being out coached.

Irrespective of what we say we played last seasons premiers who have started hitting their stride recently.  It had danger game written all ober it from the get go.