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GP gave me the ok, Mrs G2C and I booked in for next Tuesday.

lies, damned lies and statistics.

1 in 1000 present with adverse results according to the "studies".

Your link is pointing to 6.1 out of 1000....  thats a fair stuff up of calculation.  1 in 164 have an adverse reaction unless I misread the statistics...  Or maybe the 1 in 1000 is death not a bloodclot....

Then we wonder why people arent trusting blind advice.

I'm sure you will both be fine and I expect you to report for forum duty sore arm and all..  

Change of plan EB, the GP rang me today and literally got an update from the health dept this morning recommending people in my situation have the Pfizer vaccine. Now the process of him lodging forms via Vicsis to get me an appt somewhere. Nothings bloody simple.

I know people on the forum say there is no difference between the vaccines but obviously as your case has shown there is depending on the situation. Just rocking up for the jab like a lot of people have done without first checking on what their own health situation is with your GP first is crazy IMO.
I dont want the AstraZ  and dont want to be railroaded into it either...the advertising in regards getting the jab has fallen short of what I would expect in terms of explaining that you should be advised by your GP what suits best not what suits the Governments hip pocket and political agendas.

EB the TGA website link you put up was quite specific about who should not have AZ. I was unlucky enough to have one of those specific conditions.

GTC, I'm taking about advertising for the average man on the street that appears on the TV etc...get the jab do it for the country etc etc...there has been no mention of the TGA. More people would know what the TAB  was for more than what the Theraputic Goods Association do. How many people getting the jab actually consulted their GP but just booked in trusting what the health officials, Eddie McGuire, Scotty Cam etc etc were saying?

I think this is what you guys are talking about....

Those are some very powerful stats that the Government wont be including in any of their vaccine advertising.....

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There are not and were not 210 deaths "Caused by getting the vaccines", no authority has published that or posted it.

The were 210 people who died sometime after getting a vaccination, but that poster is like saying there are 210 people who died after eating breakfast. It's not a causal relationship, it's correlation.

They are being mischievous and dishonest with how they report the data. If you go to the actual URL :

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-27-05-2021

and read through it, it clearly provides a context for the death numbers, especially in the section entitled : Reports of death following vaccination, particularly in the elderly

I note that 109 deaths have been reported for the Pfizer, and "only" 94 for the AZ. But i thought the Pfizer was the best thing since sliced bread ?

appreciate that but people would argue similar for deaths caused by covid so that argument is at best a nil all draw