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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

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Sarah Henderson, another stooge of the Oligarch
Needless to say lots and lots of politics in this, with Deakin's Geelong campus in Sarah's backyard benefitting massively from any shifts in Federal funding away from CSIRO, or should I say any change in the distribution of funding.

But this is not new news to those of us involved or connected with this sector long term, it's a bitch fight for every last Fed dollar! Deakin has been doing very very well in recent years, but at the moment there is a significant Western District bent to the Federal and State representation.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3391
Nice 1st hand report from someone working on the ground in Wuhan.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/australian-scientist-the-sole-foreign-researcher-at-the-wuhan-lab-speaks-out-20210628-p584sv.html

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Danielle Anderson was working in what has become the world’s most notorious laboratory just weeks before the first known cases of COVID-19 emerged in central China. Yet, the Victorian virologist still wonders what she missed.
Interesting that Anderson and lots of her Wuhan colleagues attended a Singapore Conference on Nipah virus before being vaccinated and were tested for COVID, none indicating they had tested positive for COVID antibodies, not even something to get excited about. I gather you won't find that in News Ltd or the Hansard as it doesn't suit the politics! Some on here will do doubt use that info somewhere to claim Sars-CoV-2 is a hoax! ::)
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3392
^^

I reckon Sars-Cov-2 is not a hoax and to accuse anyone of thinking so is a bit false anyway as I think people have looked at this pandemic and decided its not that dangerous (rightly or wrongly).



Whilst that doesn't mean a lot for anyone, its worthy to consider the golfer who was leading the tournament, and was not far from the final hole when news of his positive test came through and he was inconsolable.

He was immediately out of a tournament he was leading and likely to win given he was 5 strokes ahead, he was tapped on the shoulder, and then embraced by others.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-06/covid-19-jon-rahm-tests-positive-while-leading-us-pga-event/100193772

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Rahm, the defending champion and current world number three, seemed poised for victory in Dublin.

He had produced a commanding performance that included a hole-in-one to complete his second round and an 8-under-par 64 to tie two tournament records.

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He was the first positive asymptomatic case as part of the Tour's contact-tracing protocols.

It was a shocking turn of events for Rahm given the timing.

He was close to perfect on the back nine, running off six birdies in an eight-hole stretch to turn a one-shot lead into a six-shot cushion.

Rahm tied the Memorial record for largest 54-hole lead set by Tiger Woods in 2000.

Now I get it, he won the covid lottery and he was asymptomatic, but is he just lucky or is this closer to the norm than not?

I think this is where the majority of people (including myself) struggle with the whole covid situation.

Whilst we can count ourselves all quite lucky considering low case numbers, it appears that we were quite unlucky last year in the fact that it got into our aged care facilities.

Its a tough tightrope to walk and it would be nice to know more about it all I guess.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3393
From world champions to laughing stock: Sydney in lockdown, borders shut and hardly anyone vaccinated. How long can Australia go on like this? CNN.
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In the window of a vintage shop in the Sydney suburb of Annandale, a sign expresses the frustration of many Australians with their country's pandemic strategy.
"Dear Customers, We will be closed for the foreseeable future because Scott Morrison is a useless dickhead who only ordered enough vaccine to vaccinate 4% of the population 18 months into a pandemic," reads the sign, shared on Twitter, in reference to the Australian Prime Minister.
  :))

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3394
"Dear Customers, We will be closed for the foreseeable future because Scott Morrison is a useless dickhead who only ordered enough vaccine to vaccinate 4% of the population 18 months into a pandemic"

I don't know of anyone who's been turned away from receiving a jab and 25 million doses were ordered in April and May 2021.  So who is this Annandale dickhead?


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3396
Now I get it, he won the covid lottery and he was asymptomatic, but is he just lucky or is this closer to the norm than not?

I think this is where the majority of people (including myself) struggle with the whole covid situation.
Possibly, but in the USA they are starting to realise that being asymptomatic doesn't mean you won't be impacted, recent early reports from some large longitudinal studies suggest as many as 30% of asymptomatic and mild cases are reporting deleterious effects 3 to 6 months later. For this reason they are now calling for a renewed push for effective treatments as well as vaccination.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

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https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/covid-19-vaccine-government-response/australias-vaccine-agreements

This is the official government page, that shows each vaccine and the doses purchased / manufactured / secured for each one.
Yes, the ordering isn't the supply problem if the supply problem really exists at all, it's the delivery timeline which most reports do not mention.

Regardless, at my local vaccination centre the staff there were begging people to come at get vaccinated right up until the last Melbourne lockdown, and then they were flooded with patrons, I bet it's the same in Sydney.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

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Sarah Henderson, another stooge of the Oligarch, is now calling for an enquiry into the CSIRO.  I'm not sure that she would be doing that if one had already been announced  :-\   And Christian Porter, the responsible Minister, has said nothing  ::)

This article has been overtaken by events (vaccine availability) and was published well before the WHO investigation but it does give a good account of the likely origins of COVID-19:

https://www.publish.csiro.au/ma/pdf/MA20013

There are very few organisations that I trust less than the Oligarch's media empire.  The CCP is one of them, but it's a close-run race.
Porter is a lame duck minister of Science and Industry and the 5th minister in that role in 5 years.
I doubt whether he has authority or the willingness to order a pencil sharpener given he is being hidden away from the spotlight
after his legal issues.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3399
"Dear Customers, We will be closed for the foreseeable future because Scott Morrison is a useless dickhead who only ordered enough vaccine to vaccinate 4% of the population 18 months into a pandemic"

I don't know of anyone who's been turned away from receiving a jab and 25 million doses were ordered in April and May 2021.  So who is this Annandale dickhead?


Ordered but not received!

Dr Norman Swan thoughts on our Government's vaccine procurement:

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“I’ve now had three sources telling me the same story, including from the United States, of what happened with Pfizer last June,” Swan told ABC Radio Melbourne host, Rafael Epstein, earlier this month.

“And if these three separate sources are right, what happened with Pfizer last June is that they wanted to make Australia an example to the world about how to roll it out, a bit like Israel or other places, and they said, ‘How much do you want and when do you want it?’

As we reported in January, Israel implemented a world-leading Covid-19 vaccine roll-out, with preferential vaccine access from Pfizer playing an indispensable role. Being a small country with a modern health system, Israel was offered first access to the vaccine in exchange for real-world data on safety and efficacy in a population-wide roll-out via its health system’s vaccine surveillance programs.

According to Swan, “On 10 July [2020], there was a meeting, and what I’m told happened at that meeting is that there was an inexperienced person there with procurement. They were pretty rude, and they said, ‘Oh, well, you’re going to have to give us all your IP,’  which is an amazing thing to have said, and then started nickel-and-diming on the cost.

“Essentially, the conversation stopped, and then they came back in November, the Commonwealth and only got 10 million doses. They should have got 40 million so that it was a true back-up.”

If Swan’s sources are correct, the Commonwealth’s blunder on the vaccine is responsible for the ongoing lock-downs and border restrictions Australians are having to live with. While Australians are still struggling to get an appointment to be vaccinated, Israeli doctors have been calling people to offer them the vaccine since late February.

By late March, 60% of Israelis had already received their first shot, which is about as many people as wanted to be vaccinated at all.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3400
Porter is a lame duck minister of Science and Industry and the 5th minister in that role in 5 years.
I doubt whether he has authority or the willingness to order a pencil sharpener given he is being hidden away from the spotlight
after his legal issues.

Porter may be a lame duck Minister and he has some problems but, under our version of the Westminster system, Ministers can only act on the portfolios/departments/legislation to which they are appointed by the PM and sworn in by the GG.  Hunt could only order an inquiry into the CSIRO if he was acting Minister in Porter's place.  I do not believe that Porter is still on "sick leave".
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3401
Wow! We’re Nation number 94 on the vaccinations table. But at least we’re above India ::)

 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3402
Interesting factoid about the super-spreader party in Sydney:  Thirty people attended and 24 ended up infected with COVID-19, the other six were vaccinated.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3403
Interesting factoid about the super-spreader party in Sydney:  Thirty people attended and 24 ended up infected with COVID-19, the other six were vaccinated.

You do realise that a positive test result does not mean you're infected with anything at all necessarily?

And have you missed the latest out of the UK  - more are dying from the vaxxed cohort than the unvaxxed....

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/997418/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf

(which clearly shows the delta variant is as dangerous as a warm fart)

And the numbers of deaths?

“We see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vax, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vax. For 3 deaths prevented by vax we have to accept 2 inflicted by vax.

This lack of clear benefit should cause govts to rethink their vax policy.”

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/7/693/htm
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

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The UK released official figures for vaccine related deaths just last week, which was based on a study of the last 19.6 million doses the UK has issued. For all vaccines and all complications the latest figures are;

For under 40s the side-effect death rate from vaccines is approx 0.8 people per one million dose, for over 40s it is approx 2.3 people per one million doses.

There was no vaccine that was spectacularly safer or worse than any other.

For Sars-CoV-2 by comparison to the vaccine, if those million were left unvaccinated, the Delta variant will seriously infect more than 258,000 people, with approx 30% of that 258,000 suffering serious and long term illness, and 6,000 of the 258,000 dying.

When you compare that the earlier variants, in which there would be about 70,000 serious cases from the million and 1,800 deaths.

So for those a little dusty on the math, that means Sars-CoV-2 is more lethal than the worst case scenario for the vaccines somewhere between 780 times for all variants, and 2600 times for the Delta variant!

It becomes pretty clear why they take the Delta variant so seriously.

btw., The vaccine politics of it all is exposed by the stats, because it turns out less people die from AZ in the under 40s than in the over 40s, but I suppose nobody wants to see young people suffer long term health effects so the oldies get the AZ. Of course the decisions are made relative to the lethality of COVID-19 illness for different age groups, but unfortunately death is only one measure as the USA is about to find out.
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